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Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition

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May 17, 2011 9:49:28 AM

Hello,
I can't seem to find anything that really helped with my issue anywhere. I have very sharp and often drops in FPS in all of my games, when I had my dual core, most of my games ran just fine with a steady FPS, but now since I upgraded I'm getting even worse performance than my Grandma's computer, which is far from high performance.

System info: Phenom II 1100T Black Edition
ASUS M4N98TD EVO Motherboard
8GB DDR3 XMS3 RAM
two 500GB hard drives
750W PSU
two GTS250's in SLI
Running Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
The Case is open on one side with a fan blowing at an angle, temperature rarely goes above 75 degrees. if that helps, doesn't seem to do much since it has the same performance no matter the temperature, aside from keeping the fan's noise down.
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May 17, 2011 10:31:48 AM

What brand PSU?
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May 17, 2011 10:32:46 AM

amdfangirl said:
What brand PSU?

the psu?
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May 17, 2011 10:48:45 AM

Which temperature rarely goes above 75 and is that C or F? If the CPU temp goes over 60C then there's your problem.
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May 17, 2011 10:49:42 AM

simon12 said:
Which temperature rarely goes above 75 and is that C or F? If the CPU temp goes over 60C then there's your problem.

+1
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May 17, 2011 10:51:47 AM

ghnader hsmithot said:
this is normal the 6 core amd thuban was never meant to "play games".It was there just take compete with nehalem.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=191
It wasnt meant for anything.Just to make ignorant noobs to buy there products.



WOW ! Hold on there i feel that is a bit to strong, The X6 1100t is more than capable of playing modern day games at high settings, without bottleknecking, now it may not be the super fast bestest cpu currently available, but its also no slouch.

As for the original problem, what resolutions are you playing at, also you say you have 2 x 250s SLId, now as far as im aware your motherboard does not support SLI but i will check anyway, so i think you are only getting the power of one of your cards in game, which the 250 is by no means a strong gaming card.
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May 17, 2011 10:56:11 AM

Uther39 said:
WOW ! Hold on there i feel that is a bit to strong, The X6 1100t is more than capable of playing modern day games at high settings, without bottleknecking, now it may not be the super fast bestest cpu currently available, but its also no slouch.

As for the original problem, what resolutions are you playing at, also you say you have 2 x 250s SLId, now as far as im aware your motherboard does not support SLI but i will check anyway, so i think you are only getting the power of one of your cards in game, which the 250 is by no means a strong gaming card.

Sorry Uther but i did assume he did have this rig already(250s SLI) and he did state he experience a drop in other words comparing the past to the present.So i thought he said he experienced this after he upgraded the cpu.
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May 17, 2011 10:56:50 AM

OK so it does support SLI, the next thing is to check running temps under load and cpu clock frequencies as your cpu may be throttling back if its getting to warm, you can do this with Hardware Monitor running to check load temps, and CPU Z running to check if your CPU is throttling back because of excessive heat, it would also help us alot if you would give us the rest of your system specs, such as Case Make and type, CPU cooler type and your case fans.
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May 17, 2011 10:57:26 AM

Uther39 said:
OK so it does support SLI, the next thing is to check running temps under load and cpu clock frequencies as your cpu may be throttling back if its getting to warm, you can do this with Hardware Monitor running to check load temps, and CPU Z running to check if your CPU is throttling back because of excessive heat, it would also help us alot if you would give us the rest of your system specs, such as Case Make and type, CPU cooler type and your case fans.

Uther i sent you a pm
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May 17, 2011 11:06:09 AM

For some reason i cant find it ?
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May 17, 2011 11:18:16 AM

I meant i cant seem to find where my PMs are ? Frustration is setting in lol.
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May 17, 2011 11:20:29 AM

ooo.Its at the top right corner of Tomshardware.There should be an advertisment when you open Toms then you will see later your profile.
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May 17, 2011 11:21:51 AM

if your cpu goes above 60c then it will throttle back.

grab a decent cooler like the antec kuhler or corsair h50/h70. i have antec kuhler and cpu temps on my 1090t at full load do not go above 42c

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May 17, 2011 11:30:57 AM

I have the 1090t OCd to 4ghz, the cooler i use is the BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro, its an excellent cooler, my load temps never exceed 45C.

But remember for a cpu cooler to be effective you need decent case airflow.

My Case and Cooler


Decent Case Air flow set up ( FOR REGULAR PC CASES )

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May 17, 2011 11:33:46 AM

sorry i meant 75F lol yeah 75C would be very bad. and my brand of PSU would be apevia. The The cooling is mainly fans, but the motherboard does have liquid cooling. the CPU itself has the factory cooling unit on it, which came in the box. I am assuming i need a better cooling unit, as performance degrades as time goes on in-game. and I also agree that the two 250's arent very strong either, but i could run crysis on max at 800x600, which is by no means impressive, but with the new CPU i cant even get a stable framerate above 20fps at low. The reason I bought it was to upgrade from my dying dual core, I wasn't expecting miracles, but i also wasn't expecting a performance drop. Hope that answers your questions. Cuz I'm kind of annoyed at the fact that I now lag in left 4 dead 2 -_-
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May 17, 2011 11:36:45 AM

I guess its time to get a fancier case too, hawaii did take its toll over the years.
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May 17, 2011 11:37:24 AM

OMG 800x600, you must have some kind of temp related throttling issue here, as for your PSU brand ive never heard of it, which is also a bad indication, again more details on your case cooling set up, as above a decent CPU cooler will only run as well as the airflow it gets.
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May 17, 2011 11:45:50 AM

I've read about some limitations on the Phenom II series too. but I've no idea how to disable it or if disabling it is even a wise idea. with the case, I used to have one that vented the air from holes on the top and outter side, but I've noticed it wasn't enough so I removed the outter side and put a fan in the back of the computer at an angle to force the warm air outward into my room, where other fans would take it outside the house. Worked before, but i guess not with a more demanding CPU.
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May 17, 2011 11:47:46 AM

Show me the case you have please, and again check using CPU Z that your CPU is running when under load at its specified 3.3ghz.
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May 17, 2011 11:52:07 AM

if you can imagine the ones at an office, its pretty much exactly the same...sad I know, but it it did just fine....before I upgraded T.T; any to recommend? I just got my tax return so im all ears to what you think is the best or most recommended.
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May 17, 2011 11:53:24 AM

Yes you want to change your case and cpu cooler then, whats your budget for both and ill recommend to you what to get.
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May 17, 2011 11:56:47 AM

and I just did a run on crysis 2 and yeah I've been getting an max/average of 1700MHz. So yeah im not happy with that lol.
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May 17, 2011 11:58:37 AM

$300 is the max I would spend.
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May 17, 2011 11:59:09 AM

Ok so it could be a combination of heat and also due to ASUS EPU engine running on your system which manages power etc etc, click bottom right screen and make sure you switch off the ASUS EPU engine.
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May 17, 2011 12:10:27 PM

I'll take up that recommendation, but I feel so stupid to realize that I forgot to put my pc at "high performance" from "Power Saver" ...i was downloading a steam game and I fell asleep so I didnt want to waste electricity. T.T *facepalm*
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May 17, 2011 12:10:36 PM

With the above 2 you would have absolutely no more heat issues.
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May 17, 2011 12:12:02 PM

HAHA, easily done my friend, i always use ASUS mobos as i love them, but the EPU engine can be a pain in the arse, sometimes for me it even causes Blue Screens so i always disable it now.
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May 17, 2011 12:47:00 PM

kenny10188 said:
$300 is the max I would spend.


If you are willing to spend $300 you should spend it on a new single video card, most likely a dependable PSU with single rail, and a $30 aftermarket CPU cooler.
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May 17, 2011 2:28:11 PM

Wisecracker said:
If you are willing to spend $300 you should spend it on a new single video card, most likely a dependable PSU with single rail, and a $30 aftermarket CPU cooler.


+1 a coolmaster hyper 212+ is good enough as long as you have a few case fans.
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May 17, 2011 4:09:50 PM

Exactly, a $30 212+ would be fine.
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June 17, 2011 3:44:58 AM

75 f , that is super cool ,nothing wrong with that cpu cooler ,mine runs at 29c idle and 48-52 at 100% with the stock cooler , wish I could get it to 75 f !
Must be something wrong my 1100t plays all games with no problems , ATI 5770 GPU . Try turning off cool and quiet .
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