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6870 BEATEN BY Nvidia GT 8600?

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December 15, 2010 11:28:56 AM

Here's the benchmark: http://yfrog.com/2f2dgraphicsp

Here's the specs of the two systems: http://yfrog.com/i3specsoftwop

The AMD Phenom II 955 system has the 6870, here are some more specs: http://yfrog.com/n1amdphenomii955p

So why is it getting beaten badly?

The AMD Phenom II 955 system has overall better specs too! :??: 
December 15, 2010 11:42:50 AM

its fake,it cant be that,just fake.
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December 15, 2010 11:51:28 AM

The AMD Phenom system is mine and its real, the 6870 doesn't preform very well at all.
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December 15, 2010 12:21:11 PM

why are you only showing the 2D results? I'd like to see the 3D ones as well

also, what OS are you running on the X2 system?
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December 15, 2010 12:40:28 PM

my guess would be driver conflicts, did you run a complete driver sweep between installls before installign the 6870 as in delete nvidia drives then safe mode drive sweep then back up to install new drivers fo rthe 6870
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December 15, 2010 1:06:06 PM

The new ATI card is not running at full clocks -- it is running in idle mode since the 2d app does not require much GPU power so it runs in idle mode to save power and reduce heat. For example my 5770 runs at a core clock rate of 157Mhz. and Memory clock of 300 Mhz. in 2d mode but goes to its default clock speed of 850 - 1200Mhz. once you need more performance.

So chances are that bench is not doing anything that needs the higher clock settings so the card is just doing the bench in idle mode with the reduced clock rates. Run a 3d bench that calls for better performance or disable power saving mode and you'll get very different results !!
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December 15, 2010 10:33:55 PM

jefe323 said:
why are you only showing the 2D results? I'd like to see the 3D ones as well

also, what OS are you running on the X2 system?


I'm running Windows 7 x64 and the other Ahtlon x2 (not mine) is running Windows XP x32 as specified in my first post's pictures.

Here's the 3D results: http://yfrog.com/063dgraphicsp

How is he beating me in 3D complex graphics with a GT 8600?? :fou: 
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December 15, 2010 10:34:47 PM

g00fysmiley said:
my guess would be driver conflicts, did you run a complete driver sweep between installls before installign the 6870 as in delete nvidia drives then safe mode drive sweep then back up to install new drivers fo rthe 6870


It's a brand new system this is the first graphics card. Only Nvidia-related software ever installed was physx for Metro 2033.
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December 15, 2010 11:07:52 PM

ngoing001 said:

How is he beating me in 3D complex graphics with a GT 8600?? :fou: 


What Benchmark test is that ?? -- The complex test is probably like the 3Dmark VANTAGE CPU physics test which runs on the GPU as well on nVIDIA cards due to Physx vs. running on strictly the CPU on the ATI system so the results are skewed and you wouldn't see that type of performance difference anywhere but in a synthetic benchmark !
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December 15, 2010 11:14:14 PM

Try benchmarking actual games. Or use 3dmark Vantage, or 11.

If the new card is still being out performed, then something is wrong with your setup. If that benchmark you tested is run in 2D mode, then it's kind of pointless, as the new card just sits in idle mode, as it's not needed to perform well.
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December 15, 2010 11:19:23 PM

JDFan said:
What Benchmark test is that ?? -- The complex test is probably like the 3Dmark VANTAGE CPU physics test which runs on the GPU as well on nVIDIA cards due to Physx vs. running on strictly the CPU on the ATI system so the results are skewed and you wouldn't see that type of performance difference anywhere but in a synthetic benchmark !



It's this: http://www.passmark.com/products/pt.htm
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December 16, 2010 12:18:24 AM

toms has an article about 2d speed a long time ago. even an integrated graphics was faster than a 5850 in 2D. but its not really an issue as it has no visual effect.
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December 16, 2010 12:28:47 AM

JDFan said:
Run a 3d bench that calls for better performance or disable power saving mode and you'll get very different results !!


Wow, I feel like an idiot. My computer was on power saving mode. I do not remember setting it to this at all. Some of my scores on the benchmark doubled and almost all improved.
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