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May 18, 2011 3:09:21 AM

Hey All,

I am putting together a build (parts below), and I am having trouble settling upon a heat sink. The Scythe Mugen was recommended by Tom's SBM, but there is a lot of talk about how difficult it is to install. I'm a novice when it comes to PC building, and so that is something of concern. I linked the Heat Sink below and my overall build.

Any suggestions on a good heat sink that would work with my build, or do you think I should stick with the Scythe? Thanks!

Heat Sink - $39.99:
Scythe Mugen 2 Rev. B (SCMG-2100)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I have appended the other components of the build below.


Power - $124.99:
Seasonic SS-850HT: 850 W, ATX12V v2.31, 80 PLUS Silver
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Processor - $314.99:
Intel Core i7-2600K: 3.4 GHz-3.8 GHz, 8 MB Shared L3 Cache
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard - $259.00:
Asus P8P67 WS Revolution: LGA 1155, Intel P67 Express
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphicss - $678:
2 x MSI R6970-2PM2D2GD5: A-Data S599, CrossFire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory - $99:
G.Skill F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM: DDR3-1600 C8, 4 GB x 2 (8 GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

System Drive - $242:
Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage Drives - $64.99:
Samsung F3 HD103SJ 1 TB, 7200 RPM HDD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical - $22:
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case - $120:
NZXT Crafted Series ATX Full Tower Steel Chassis - Phantom Black
http://www.amazon.com/NZXT-Crafted-Tower-Steel-Chassis/...

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May 18, 2011 3:32:48 AM

Your links don't work for me!
It's hard to fault a Mugen 2 it's an excellent cooler.
I've read Scythe has a new improved backplate for the Mugen.= easier to install
Keep in mind if you ever decide to add more ram you will have issues.(1 dimm blocked for sure)
Be aware the psu you've chosen is oem and includes no hardware(screws/power cord)
and it's hard to guess just how many cables it has.
That being said it's an excellent psu.
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May 18, 2011 4:18:07 AM

Thanks for your reply. What do you mean "1 dimm blocked." Do you recommend another heat sink instead?

Also, thanks for your psu suggestion. I'm planning on using a different one, but haven't gotten to that point of the research yet.

Btw, I updated the links.
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May 18, 2011 4:29:22 AM

All i'm saying is if you ever plan on filling all your dimms/ram slots the Mugen will definitely make one unuseable.
If you are only planning on using 8GB it won't be an issue.
Comparable psu's to the Seasonic.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...
Note the XFX is built off the same platform as the Seasonic SS-850HT.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
The Antec is a high end Delta oem.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

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May 18, 2011 4:31:49 AM

Get a Corsair h50. It's very quite and a great cooler. It's pretty simple to install too. Here is a video. ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUxoFiFuS_g

It will give you great room to OC too. Also, if you are just gaming and stuff like that, a core i5 2500k would be better. Games won't take use of those 8 threads. Hope this helps!
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May 18, 2011 6:58:21 AM

personally i wouldn't recommend the H50 to any 1. there ugly, they have a limited life of about 18 months to 2 years due to it being a completely sealed uni,t and there is a real drop off in performance after about 14 months. not only that at 50 pounds it can easily be surpassed by much cheaper air options.

really if your gonna go liquid then go the whole hog and do it properly.

if your short on cash then stick with air cooling as its just as efficient up to 4.5ghz... the mugen is a good cooler. but make sure you get a decent fan for it. something that pushes 75cfm+ with a good rpm range so its quiet when idle and efficent at load.
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May 18, 2011 4:55:54 PM

HEXiT said:
personally i wouldn't recommend the H50 to any 1. there ugly, they have a limited life of about 18 months to 2 years due to it being a completely sealed uni,t and there is a real drop off in performance after about 14 months. not only that at 50 pounds it can easily be surpassed by much cheaper air options.

really if your gonna go liquid then go the whole hog and do it properly.

if your short on cash then stick with air cooling as its just as efficient up to 4.5ghz... the mugen is a good cooler. but make sure you get a decent fan for it. something that pushes 75cfm+ with a good rpm range so its quiet when idle and efficent at load.

Oh, I didn't know is loses performance at 14 months and dies at 18.
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May 18, 2011 5:40:13 PM

Thanks HostileDonut, Davcon, and Hexit. I'm really glad to have checked here before pulling the trigger.

So, you guys recommend the mugen as the best option? Even despite the instillation complaints and potential dimm blocking?
Scythe Mugen 2 Rev. B (SCMG-2100)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks a lot for all of your help everyone.

HostileDonut, you mentioned getting a good fan. Do you recommend one by chance? I'm looking online now for the specs you suggested.
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May 18, 2011 5:51:11 PM

Diaa said:
Thanks HostileDonut, Davcon, and Hexit. I'm really glad to have checked here before pulling the trigger.

So, you guys recommend the mugen as the best option? Even despite the instillation complaints and potential dimm blocking?
Scythe Mugen 2 Rev. B (SCMG-2100)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks a lot for all of your help everyone.

HostileDonut, you mentioned getting a good fan. Do you recommend one by chance? I'm looking online now for the specs you suggested.

Good CPU cooling fans, or case fans? If it is a CPU fan, just get a A70 for $32 dollars that has two 120mm fans and 4 copper heat-pipes. If you are looking for case fans, just grab the biggest fan that fits your fan socket from a good brand like Antec, NZXT, Coolermaster, Thermaltake, etc.
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May 18, 2011 5:57:14 PM

It looks like the A70 is much easier to install, which is a plus. However, it doesn't have as many reviews (as compared to the Mugen). Thanks so much for your quick reply. I'll start researching the two. Thanks again. All of you guys are really incredible.
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May 18, 2011 6:01:00 PM

Diaa said:
It looks like the A70 is much easier to install, which is a plus. However, it doesn't have as many reviews (as compared to the Mugen). Thanks so much for your quick reply. I'll start researching the two. Thanks again. All of you guys are really incredible.

No problem! I hope whichever you get suits your needs very well! ;) 
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May 20, 2011 2:13:57 PM

HostileDonut said:
Oh, I didn't know is loses performance at 14 months and dies at 18.

its no an exact date it does depend on heat cycle and other variables... although now they are giving a 5 year warranty i can see them replacing a lot of them after 2...

anyway the aesthetics of the inside of the pc is just as important as the outside to me. and all them closed loops and black rubber just dont push my buttons...
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May 20, 2011 3:21:41 PM

Diaa said:
It looks like the A70 is much easier to install, which is a plus. However, it doesn't have as many reviews (as compared to the Mugen). Thanks so much for your quick reply. I'll start researching the two. Thanks again. All of you guys are really incredible.

The A70 is a very good deal for the price i picked one up for $30 in January.
Just installed it Wednesday,replaced a 212+ on my i5 760 build.
Temps have dropped 2-4C on all cores(compared to 212+) and it's quieter with 2 fans then the 212+ was with one.
The only frustration was the back plate which has 3 lock positions (775,1366,1156/1155) didn't line up with mobo holes(MSI mobo) in locked 1156 position.
You have to mess with them(slide them around till it fits)works great once you get them to line up.
Works great with my Ripjaws = no clearance issues it all fits.
Great cooler if you find it cheap,better then a 212+ and quieter with 2 fans.
It performs at the same level as a Mugen,actually slightly better.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1389/6/
I know that's only one review but trust me i've read many,they perform on par with a slight edge to the A70.
NCIX in Canada is awesome for prices,had the 212+ on for $16 last week.
Corsair Cooling Air Series A70
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=53612&vpn=CAFA70...
http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=53612&vpn=...
The Prolimatech Armageddon is on for $30 at NCIX just add your favourite fan..
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