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Radeon 6970 Vs GTX 570

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December 16, 2010 12:26:33 AM

I am opening this discussion poll. I am seeking people's opinions on both cards. Depending on how the discussion goes, I will pick a graphics card.

More about : radeon 6970 gtx 570

a c 169 U Graphics card
December 16, 2010 6:38:37 AM

Depends on the resolution you play at
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6970-rade...
"As for the Radeon HD 6970, it should be selling for $20 more than a GTX 570. Based on its display outputs alone, that makes AMD’s card worth the Andrew Jackson to me, personally. Otherwise, the two cards trade blows, with the GTX 570 faring better at 1680x1050 as AMD’s Radeon HD 6970 retains more of its performance at 2560x1600."
December 16, 2010 9:23:08 AM

it really depends on how you look at both products.... as for gtx 570... it...

pros
- damn fast.... 480 performance for 470 price...
- runs cooler than previous gen...
- superior performance to ati when aa is on in many games...
- abit cheaper than 6970 for the time being...

cons
- still... power hungry....
- still... expensive for average gamer...
- still... don't know what to say... because it better than 480

as for 6970...

pros
- fast... replacing hd 5870 in dx 11 applications...
- outperform hd 5870 in efficiency...
- cheaper than flagship gtx 580...

cons
- 5870 drops in price... making it a good choice for cf over the 6970 for those who already own hd 5870....
- outperformed by gtx 580...
- not a viable option for those who own hd 5870...

personally.. i'm planning on upgrading to gtx 570... but things runs slowly in my area.. so i have to wait some more time before get my hands on them...
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December 16, 2010 9:35:32 AM

With cards this close, it depends on who you want to support. I've heard many people complain about ATI drivers, while I personally found for me that with my Nvidia set up, it's harder to do the things I want to do than with ATI.

As stated above, performance wise, resolution is the determining factor between the two.
a b U Graphics card
December 16, 2010 11:39:25 AM

Why can't you just read the benchmarks and decide for yourself?

It all comes down to what games you play. They both run neck and neck. The 570 wins 1/3 of the benchmarks. The 6970 wins 1/3 of the benchmarks. They tie in the other 1/3 of the benchmarks. The 6970 is slightly more power efficient.
a b U Graphics card
December 16, 2010 3:43:23 PM

Dude that article is older than dirt and hardly accurate.

They say that the 6950 is a dual gpu part.....??? Completely inaccurate.

The 6990 is supposed to be a dual gpu part.

Extra money left over? Where are they selling SSD's for $20??
December 16, 2010 3:43:41 PM

The GTX 570 and 6970 seems to run neck and neck to me. I'd buy a 6970 for my games.


(OT)Also, how come some people compare the GTX 580 to the 6970? Both of them are in completely different price ranges so what makes you think there competitors???

AMD 6990<->GTX 580
AMD 6970<->GTX 570
AMD 6950<->GTX 560 or maybe 565
AMD 6870<->GTX 470 or 550
AMD 6850<->GTX 460 or 540
December 16, 2010 7:29:34 PM

Well I have looked through all the posts. Only a few of them Contain factual information. I am going to buy the AMD card. The 6970 is brand spanking new. We are comparing it to the GTX 570 which I believe has been out for a month or so. With driver updates, the 6970 will be able to show us what it can really do.
December 17, 2010 6:51:00 AM

cronik93 said:
The GTX 570 and 6970 seems to run neck and neck to me. I'd buy a 6970 for my games.


(OT)Also, how come some people compare the GTX 580 to the 6970? Both of them are in completely different price ranges so what makes you think there competitors???

AMD 6990<->GTX 580
AMD 6970<->GTX 570
AMD 6950<->GTX 560 or maybe 565
AMD 6870<->GTX 470 or 550
AMD 6850<->GTX 460 or 540


they compare the gtx 580 with the 6970 because their the 2 best "single" gpu's for nvidia and ati. so technically they should be matched up.
a c 376 U Graphics card
December 17, 2010 7:19:25 AM

cronik93 said:
The GTX 570 and 6970 seems to run neck and neck to me. I'd buy a 6970 for my games.


(OT)Also, how come some people compare the GTX 580 to the 6970? Both of them are in completely different price ranges so what makes you think there competitors???

AMD 6990<->GTX 580
AMD 6970<->GTX 570
AMD 6950<->GTX 560 or maybe 565
AMD 6870<->GTX 470 or 550
AMD 6850<->GTX 460 or 540

Chart seems a bit off it. The HD5970 still beats the GTX 580 and the HD6990 will be another level up entirely. Beyond that;
HD6970 = GTX 570 = GTX 480
HD6950 = HD5870
HD6870 = GTX 470(= GTX 560?)
HD5850
HD6850 = GTX 460 1gb
HD5830 = GTX 460 768mb
December 17, 2010 10:55:17 AM

And the Gtx 590 will beat up on the 6990 unfortunately...
a b U Graphics card
December 17, 2010 11:25:49 AM

GtX 570 seems to deliver almost the same performance as the 6970. The HD 6000 series delivers less frame rates compared to that of the HD 5000 series.
December 17, 2010 12:21:40 PM

jason gran said:
they compare the gtx 580 with the 6970 because their the 2 best "single" gpu's for nvidia and ati. so technically they should be matched up.




Doing price vs. price makes more sense to me. Maybe Nvidia should start doing more dual-GPU cards since it works out for AMD.
a b U Graphics card
December 17, 2010 12:56:02 PM

jason gran said:
they compare the gtx 580 with the 6970 because their the 2 best "single" gpu's for nvidia and ati. so technically they should be matched up.


Technically no, not if they are in completely different price brackets. So your saying we should compare the Hyundai Genesis to the Dodge Viper RT because they are both the fastest cars those manufacturers make?? Hardly.
a b U Graphics card
December 17, 2010 12:57:01 PM

microterf said:
And the Gtx 590 will beat up on the 6990 unfortunately...


That would be great, Nvidia would finally be able to move out of the LOSER column, being that they still can't beat the 2yr old HD5970.
a b U Graphics card
December 17, 2010 1:10:28 PM

I don't think the 5970 is quite 2 years old yet. That news would be quite a surprise to my 5850.
a b U Graphics card
December 17, 2010 3:34:08 PM

EXT64 said:
I don't think the 5970 is quite 2 years old yet. That news would be quite a surprise to my 5850.


Ok, 1year? Still you get the point right? Nvidia has been unable to produce a dual gpu card since the GTX295.
December 17, 2010 3:36:48 PM

geekapproved said:
That would be great, Nvidia would finally be able to move out of the LOSER column, being that they still can't beat the 2yr old HD5970.


Do you have a short memory?? The 5970 came out last year, right around this time. and you couldn't even get one till around January unless you were lucky.

Second, how if you're talking about comparing GPUs by price, the 5970 is $700, and has 2 GPUs, you can't crossfire 4 of those. My 3 580s will smack the Crap out of 2 5970s like they are a bunch of little hoes.
December 17, 2010 4:10:22 PM

I think it is kinda funny how we went from Radeon HD 6970 Vs GTX 570

to

microterf said:
The My 3 580s will smack the Crap out of 2 5970s like they are a bunch of little hoes.

December 17, 2010 4:21:11 PM

:)  That's what happens when people don't think before they talk. I will say however that the 6xxx series scaling is AMAZING. I really wish there was more performance there to start with though. Makes me sad :(  I can't stand nvidia.
a b U Graphics card
December 17, 2010 5:24:14 PM

i havent read any posts but i say GTX 570, better dx11 performance.
a c 678 U Graphics card
December 17, 2010 5:57:57 PM

GTX 570
-Better DirectX 11 tesselation
-Less noise
-PhysX
-Overall better performance
-Better drivers
-Better overclocking scalability with minimal impact on heat and noise
-Overall favored by more games
-Cheaper, better availability



December 18, 2010 8:55:33 AM

gtx 570 supporting physx.. 6970 supports 6 monitor.... it really depends on what features that you are going to use... as for me... i won't even use 2 monitor at the same time... so i just pick which is running faster in games...
a b U Graphics card
December 18, 2010 2:41:44 PM

microterf said:
Do you have a short memory?? The 5970 came out last year, right around this time. and you couldn't even get one till around January unless you were lucky.

Second, how if you're talking about comparing GPUs by price, the 5970 is $700, and has 2 GPUs, you can't crossfire 4 of those. My 3 580s will smack the Crap out of 2 5970s like they are a bunch of little hoes.


Speaking of short term memory, did you even read the post above yours? LOL I said ONE year. Comparing price? Did you even read my post???? :sleep: 

I said you can't compare a GTX580 and a 6970 because they are in different price brackets......what part of that are you having trouble with??

Speaking of thinking before you talk......how bout reading comprehension skills....lol
December 18, 2010 3:31:09 PM

geekapproved said:
Speaking of short term memory, did you even read the post above yours? LOL I said ONE year. Comparing price? Did you even read my post???? :sleep: 

I said you can't compare a GTX580 and a 6970 because they are in different price brackets......what part of that are you having trouble with??

Speaking of thinking before you talk......how bout reading comprehension skills....lol


Well, considering I was writing that as you must have been writing your correction to thinking that it had been out for 2 years, it's not my fault you can't count, but I'm not going to go back and edit something just because you had to change something you said.

My point was that you're sitting here saying that Nvidia can't beat the 5970, (obviously comparing a $700 5970 to a $500 GTX 580) but then saying that the 580 can't be compared to the 6970 because of the price difference, talk about hypocritical.

How about you stop being a stupid fanboy, and stick to the topic, where he was asking about the difference between the 570 and the 6970

And you use the comparison to a Hyundai to a Viper, Yes, if you are looking at just straight performance then you should look at the top performance from each manufacturer. There are obviously only 2 for GPUs though, which sucks for us, the consumer.
a c 274 U Graphics card
December 18, 2010 3:42:44 PM

geekapproved said:
That would be great, Nvidia would finally be able to move out of the LOSER column, being that they still can't beat the 2yr old HD5970.


geekapproved said:
Speaking of short term memory, did you even read the post above yours? LOL I said ONE year. Comparing price? Did you even read my post???? :sleep: 

I said you can't compare a GTX580 and a 6970 because they are in different price brackets......what part of that are you having trouble with??

Speaking of thinking before you talk......how bout reading comprehension skills....lol


I've quoted your post after you've edited it and it still says the 5970 is two years old! :lol: 
December 18, 2010 4:19:09 PM

geekapproved said:
Technically no, not if they are in completely different price brackets. So your saying we should compare the Hyundai Genesis to the Dodge Viper RT because they are both the fastest cars those manufacturers make?? Hardly.


I'm simply explaining why "people" compare both single gpu flagships.... to some prices dont matter as long as they have the best.
December 18, 2010 4:21:24 PM

jason gran said:
I'm simply explaining why "people" compare both single gpu flagships.... to some prices dont matter as long as they got the best.


Thank you, exactly what I've been trying to say.
December 18, 2010 6:57:08 PM

Quite Honestly, I just flipped a coin.

Heads = AMD

Tails = Nvidia

I got heads...looks like im getting the ATI 6970.
December 18, 2010 8:00:46 PM

I have an AMD chipset. I think its better for me anyway.
a b U Graphics card
December 18, 2010 8:17:55 PM

Quote:
bad coin..


Agreed. A good coin in this case would have two heads. :lol: 
December 18, 2010 8:51:13 PM

not really up2date with all these releases but i did notice on newegg. their marketing the 6xxx series as amd..and the rest as ati? are they trying to make another business (amd) succeed? i'm guessing their 2 different capital companies?
a b U Graphics card
December 18, 2010 10:11:01 PM

Same company. ATI was absorbed by AMD a few years ago, but they've just got around to changing the brand names. ATI = AMD.
December 18, 2010 10:35:09 PM

Guys, I dont know why this is so hard to understand.

Radeon 5970, GTX 580 (Radeon 5970 is ((380$-700$)), once again, AMD clearign stock so the occasional deal pops up once in a while. GTX is 500$.
Gtx 570, Radeon 6970 (GTX 350$, Radeon 375$)
Radeon 6950 300$
Radeon 5870 (210$-220$-280$) (AMD clearign stock some deals out there)
Radeon 6870 245$-250$
Gtx 470 (Idk, Should be 185$ though)
GTX 460 1gb, Radeon 6850, Radeon 5850 (150$-170$)
December 18, 2010 10:42:48 PM

eyefinity said:
Same company. ATI was absorbed by AMD a few years ago, but they've just got around to changing the brand names. ATI = AMD.


same company as in both share the revenue? just trying to figure out why their trying to sell the cards under amd
December 18, 2010 10:47:20 PM

No, Same company as in AMD payed ATI investors a massive premium per share, and then AMD merged the company.
December 20, 2010 12:30:24 AM

17seconds said:
GTX 570
-Better DirectX 11 tesselation
-Less noise
-PhysX
-Overall better performance
-Better drivers
-Better overclocking scalability with minimal impact on heat and noise
-Overall favored by more games
-Cheaper, better availability

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6970/images/perfrel.gif


GTX 570 is FTW! :D 

Cheaper, Less noise, Overall better performance.. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?
December 20, 2010 12:34:49 AM

lutsk92 said:
GTX 570 is FTW! :D 

Cheaper, Less noise, Overall better performance.. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?


Aparently, A red logo and a lack of working drivers/PhysX and CUDA suport.

At least, accoirding to Ares and his lackeys.
a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 3:17:52 AM

nfuzer said:
Well I have looked through all the posts. Only a few of them Contain factual information. I am going to buy the AMD card. The 6970 is brand spanking new. We are comparing it to the GTX 570 which I believe has been out for a month or so. With driver updates, the 6970 will be able to show us what it can really do.

So the GTX 570 is old just because it released one month earlier? :lol: 

NVIDIA can also release driver updates to increase performance, so your point is? :sarcastic: 
December 20, 2010 11:47:54 AM

Are they going to release 1GB versions of the 6970 and 6950?
a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 12:13:48 PM

I agree with the people who say that its more on what you need rather than which one is better. If you want PhysX/CUDA... then it should be the GTX570. If you want the eyefinity then it should be ATI. Price-wise, the HD6970 wins for sure.
a c 678 U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 4:15:18 PM

hell_storm2004 said:
I agree with the people who say that its more on what you need rather than which one is better. If you want PhysX/CUDA... then it should be the GTX570. If you want the eyefinity then it should be ATI. Price-wise, the HD6970 wins for sure.

The 6970 is more expensive ($370) and is outperformed by the GTX570 ($350). Seriously, nfuser, how long do you need this to drag out?
December 20, 2010 11:12:52 PM

In all honesty, there is not right or wrong choice here. Both cards perform about the same. They are both about equal in price. Yes, I acknowledge that the GTX 570 is slightly cheaper, but the 6970 is also brand new hardware. I was expecting to pay a +$40 premium for it anyway.

There is not a "Deal maker" for either card. Because I own an AMD chipset, it seems only logical that I go with the AMD GPU. Sure Nvidia might be "faster" on paper, but why would I want to mess with my mobo by putting an Nvidia card in it. I would not be able to run SLI but if I go with the AMD card I would be able to run crossfire some years down the road.

Just because the GTX 570 is "faster", "quieter", and "cheaper" doesn't do it for me.
I am fully expecting AMD to release newer drivers that would place the 6970 at higher performance. I am not worried about the Nvidia card being 5-8fps faster in some games at 1900x1080. And to say that it is "quieter" is really a matter of opinion. I have 5 fans in my case. I honestly wont mind a little noise while im gaming. And the "cheaper" stance, as I stated before, new hardware comes with a premium. It has also been stated in many places that PhysX and Cuda do not make a huge difference in games. So why would I want to get it?

Unless there is a clear reason why I should choose Nvidia over AMD, im not going to. There is no reason for me to listen to a bunch of comments saying that the GTX 570 is ""better." Unless you have owned both cards, you are only basing your decision based on a few charts and graphs. I believe that this particular case is strictly a matter of personal preference. My personal preference is AMD.

I made a major error in creating this thread. I originally said I was "seeking people's opinions on both cards." I now realize that the only opinion in this whole thread that actually matters is mine.
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2010 3:04:58 AM

....... but why would I want to mess with my mobo by putting an Nvidia card in it. said:
....... but why would I want to mess with my mobo by putting an Nvidia card in it.


So you've come to the conclusion that putting a NVIDIA card on an AMD motherboard 'messes it up'?

........ I would be able to run crossfire some years down the road. said:
........ I would be able to run crossfire some years down the road.


How long do you mean by 'some years'?

I am fully expecting AMD to release newer drivers that would place the 6970 at higher performance. said:
I am fully expecting AMD to release newer drivers that would place the 6970 at higher performance.


AMD needs to make their drivers more stable rather than increasing performance. And who told you that newer drivers will come and give a magical performance increment?

........... new hardware comes with a premium. said:
........... new hardware comes with a premium.


So, isn't the GTX 570 'new' by your standards?

It has also been stated in many places that PhysX and Cuda do not make a huge difference in games. So why would I want to get it? said:
It has also been stated in many places that PhysX and Cuda do not make a huge difference in games. So why would I want to get it?


Sure PhysX might not be of any use for most, but there are many applications that benefit from CUDA.If you are not running those applications, then dont bother.

My personal preference is AMD. said:
My personal preference is AMD.


Any reason that you have to explain your preference? If not then you're a fanboy who shouldn't have opened this thread in the first place.

Cheers.
December 21, 2010 5:42:56 AM

Lmao. You said everything I was thinking.
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2010 6:48:03 AM

17seconds said:
The 6970 is more expensive ($370) and is outperformed by the GTX570 ($350). Seriously, nfuser, how long do you need this to drag out?

Ooops! Sorry got the 6950 and the 6970 prices mixed up! :( 
December 21, 2010 8:48:17 AM

buy a more expensive hd 6970 can let you play with 6 monitors which i'm sure you're not going to do that... and finally save your 20 bucks by trying with gtx 570 which will consume lots power that is going to translate to your electricity bill that you won't even noticing it....
December 21, 2010 1:34:56 PM

Had 12 ATI/AMD graphics card in my life. I bought my first Nvidia today, after a dissapointment with the 6970. EVGA 570 it is.
December 21, 2010 3:46:22 PM

@boldor I know how you feel. Last NVIDIA card I had before this build was geforce 4 ti4600. Feels like I'm cheating. Lol, same with processors. First Intel ive ever personally owned. Been and since I bought my first pc with a 586 133 in 95.
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