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February 19, 2011 2:16:41 AM

Hi all again. My boy wants a new gaming computer. So I came to the experts.

Approximate Purchase Date: Next few days


Budget Range: $500 I don't think he will use the rebates


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming.


Parts Not Required:keyboard,mouse,speakers,monitor,GPU,case,cooling

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:newegg microcenter,reputable places
Country of Origin: USA


Parts Preferences: AMD Intel
Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: NO

Monitor Resolution: (e.g.: 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1600x1200,
Additional Comments:He has a 5850,a NXZT pHantom case,a H50 cooler,and a few parts from an old PC (dell) DVD/CD. He needs a CPU,MB,OS,RAM,HD,PSU

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February 19, 2011 7:38:05 AM
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No CF/SLI very simple and with Microcenter an option

965BE + MSI 870A-G54 $190
http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/AMDbundl...

Antec HCG 620 $78
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

2 X 2 ddr3 1600 $45 Free Ship
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

7200.12 500 + OS $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$443 before after market cooling
February 19, 2011 7:45:26 PM

My suggestions:

i3-550 cpu @3.2 $130. Very overclockable but probably not necessary.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
A good duo is all you need. Here's why:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-co...

ECS P55H-CM (V1.0) LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX Intel motherboard: $73, $55 after rebate. I have used this; a quality mobo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4gb of ram, fancy heat spreaders are mostly marketing. G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNS $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply. $70.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

See if your son qualifies for an academic license for W7, should be about $30.

Otherwise batuchka combo is ok.
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February 19, 2011 9:28:10 PM

geofelt said:
My suggestions:

i3-550 cpu @3.2 $130. Very overclockable but probably not necessary.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
A good duo is all you need. Here's why:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-co...

ECS P55H-CM (V1.0) LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX Intel motherboard: $73, $55 after rebate. I have used this; a quality mobo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4gb of ram, fancy heat spreaders are mostly marketing. G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNS $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply. $70.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

See if your son qualifies for an academic license for W7, should be about $30.

Otherwise batuchka combo is ok.


Hey thanks.I never thought about a i3 cpu. Tis sounds good to him and me. The MB being a micro is a lesson I'm dealing with right now. in another PC. Its just to cramped. Could you sugest a full ATX board. He got a OS.
He is very close to his build budget with a few tweaks. We did come acros this ram . The timming are a little better. Will it work.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
February 19, 2011 9:35:48 PM

I don't know why, and I don't want to bash anybody, but I can't understand why people still suggest a dual core processor any more. And I also wouldn't buy a gaming processor that didn't have any L3 cache on it. The more the merrier. Take a hard look at what some of these "newer" games require...... don't bother with the minimum requirements. I haven't seen one developer give the right information there in many years.
February 19, 2011 10:00:35 PM

Motherboards today come with most of all the features you want without add in cards. That is why I suggested a micro-atx which has 4 expansion slots. Often a mini-ITX with one slot is sufficient. You can get some very interesting cases for those.
For a full atx, you will get 7 expansion slots. Current offerings will have features such as sli capability, USB 3.0, 6gb sata. The more features the higher the price. All will OC the same to any sane level. Performance is determined by the cpu and gpu, not the motherboard. My preference is to not pay for features you may never use. I would look for usb3.0 for good external backup, and 6gb sata for a future ssd. I would not pay much extra for sli caqpability unless you contemplate a 2560 x 1600 monitor, or triple monitor gaming.
Anything from ASUS, or gigabyte should be OK.
How about this ASUS P7P55D-E LX for $130:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The ram you listed will work fine. Just realize that it is basic 1.5v ram that can be oc'ed to 1.65v to run faster.
The actual impact on real application performance or fps will be 1-3%. Measurable, but not noticeable.
The synthetic benchmarks may be impressive, but are largely worthless. Of interest only to record seeking overclockers.
February 20, 2011 6:58:35 AM

Fresh builds go at least X3


The Game Rundown: Finding CPU/GPU Bottlenecks, Part 2
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-performance-bo...
Quote:
Conclusion: A Trend Toward 3+ Cores

The average optimal number of CPU cores suggested by the test results is 2.75, showing a clear trend towards at least three CPU cores.The question of whether the CPU or GPU is most important is easily answered. If you don't have a multi-core CPU, then upgrade it. If you have a dual-core CPU at around 3 GHz, then invest your money into a graphics card, as most games are GPU-limited. This is not something that will change with new DirectX 11 games.

February 20, 2011 4:10:47 PM

Best answer selected by therightstuff.
February 21, 2011 5:45:53 AM

Yep happy shopping and cheers ^^
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