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[Solved] Will this PSU do the job for my computer?

Forum CPU & Components : Power Supplies, Cases & Mods [Solved] Will this PSU do the job for my computer?

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Just wanting to know if this PSU will do the job for my computer:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817207007



System Specs:

Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz
RAM: 6.00 GB
OC: Windows 7 64 bit
Case: HAF-912 (I ordered an extra 200mm fan to go with it)
Video Card: MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC

Here is the video card link:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127565

Im just really looking for a simple yes/no, but i really do appreciate any other concerns/information.

Thanks

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silverbrit wrote :

Just wanting to know if this PSU will do the job for my computer:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817207007



System Specs:

Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz
RAM: 6.00 GB
OC: Windows 7 64 bit
Case: HAF-912 (I ordered an extra 200mm fan to go with it)
Video Card: MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC

Here is the video card link:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127565

Im just really looking for a simple yes/no, but i really do appreciate any other concerns/information.

Thanks


Yup, it will be just fine. You could even SLi those and still have power. Also, OC that CPU or you will get a bottleneck unless you are planning on playing on res above 1080p with all AA and AF. I would suggest a nice cooler and an OC to 3+ Ghz.

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HostileDonut wrote :

Yup, it will be just fine. You could even SLi those and still have power. Also, OC that CPU or you will get a bottleneck unless you are planning on playing on res above 1080p with all AA and AF. I would suggest a nice cooler and an OC to 3+ Ghz.



What is a bottleneck? A cooler for what? What cooler are you sugguesting?

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Your cpu is not fast enough to keep up with a GTX560. You will need to overclock to at least 3ghz.

 

That psu is more than enough for TWO GTX560's. A decent 500w unit would be sufficient even with overclocking the cpu.

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geekapproved wrote :

Your cpu is not fast enough to keep up with a GTX560. You will need to overclock to at least 3ghz.

That psu is more than enough for TWO GTX560's. A decent 500w unit would be sufficient even with overclocking the cpu.




How can i overclock my cpu? Does he mean if i overclock my cpu i will need to buy a better cooler for the cpu?

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You can probably get some overclock with the stock cooler, just keep an eye one temps. Use CPUID HW monitor.

Google "how to overclock Q8200".

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silverbrit wrote :

What is a bottleneck? A cooler for what? What cooler are you sugguesting?


Your CPU feeds information to your GPU, but when your CPU is not feeding it fast enough, the GPU isn't being used to it's full potential. Your CPU might being running at 100% usage, and your GPU at 60% usage. A 3Ghz Core 2 Quad should fix that. After you overclock, your CPU will have the power to feed it all the information. I would suggest a A70 if you case can fit it, or a CM 212+.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

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silverbrit wrote :

I might just buy a new CPU/motherboard


Not worth it. Just OC. A $30 cooler and a nice OC, you will be set.

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silverbrit wrote :

I might just buy a new CPU/motherboard



That will require new ram too.

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geekapproved wrote :

That will require new ram too.


That depends. Some new motherboard will support 800Mhz if he has it.

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Remeber that my graphic card im getting is OC Aswell and your sentence didnt make to much sence "Not worth it. Just OC. A $30 cooler and a nice OC" Your said OC Twice so kinda confused

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geekapproved wrote :

That will require new ram too.




So i need a new PSU, OC my CPU, Get a Cooler for CPU and new ram possibly?

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silverbrit wrote :

Remeber that my graphic card im getting is OC Aswell and your sentence didnt make to much sence "Not worth it. Just OC. A $30 cooler and a nice OC" Your said OC Twice so kinda confused


I mean juts get a new cooler, no new motherboard/CPU and OC the heck out of the CPU. (You could get 3Ghz easy)

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silverbrit wrote :

So i need a new PSU, OC my CPU, Get a Cooler for CPU and new ram possibly?


He is saying if you upgraded your CPU and motherboard, then you would need new RAM, which isn't necessarily true. Just get a nice cooler and OC your CPU.

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Bad news guys just figured out that its almost impossible to oc my Q8200 because its OEM... :C any suggestions?

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silverbrit wrote :

Bad news guys just figured out that its almost impossible to oc my Q8200 because its OEM... :C any suggestions?


A lower-powered card. What is your resolution? If it is 1080 I would suggest a hd6850 or GTX 460 max.

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HostileDonut wrote :

A lower-powered card. What is your resolution? If it is 1080 I would suggest a hd6850 or GTX 460 max.




Im prob going to get the MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC, just my cpu/motherboard wont work with it so.

Resolution is: 1920x1080

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silverbrit wrote :

Im prob going to get the MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC, just my cpu/motherboard wont work with it so.

Resolution is: 1920x1080


Okay, what games will you play? If you are going to play very intensive GPU games, go ahead, if you are just going to play games like CoD, don't do it.

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HostileDonut wrote :

Okay, what games will you play? If you are going to play very intensive GPU games, go ahead, if you are just going to play games like CoD, don't do it.




Well BF3 when it comes out, im playing BFBC2. Wow :/ when i think about it, im not sure if i even need that good of a graphic card. Do you agree? If so what graphic cards are there for me to chose

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silverbrit wrote :

Well BF3 when it comes out, im playing BFBC2. Wow :/ when i think about it, im not sure if i even need that good of a graphic card. Do you agree? If so what graphic cards are there for me to chose


I would say grab a hd6870 because BF3 will be pretty demanding.

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HostileDonut wrote :

I would say grab a hd6870 because BF3 will be pretty demanding.



Is the HD6870 better than MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC ?

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silverbrit wrote :

Is the HD6870 better than MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC ?


Nope. It is a bit worse. Your CPU will bottleneck a GTX 560 Ti.

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HostileDonut wrote :

Nope. It is a bit worse. Your CPU will bottleneck a GTX 560 Ti.




Wouldnt it be my GTX 560 would bottleneck my CPU?

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silverbrit wrote :

Wouldnt it be my GTX 560 would bottleneck my CPU?


No. I'll explain a bottleneck. Your CPU "feeds" your GPU information. When you have a very fast GPU, but a slowish CPU, the CPU can't "feed" the information to the GPU quick enough. Your CPU may be running 100% in some games, where your GPU will be running at 60%. Some ways to reduce bottleneck is by making your game settings higher, putting more work on the GPU, evening it out. Since your res is "only" 1080p, you will still bottleneck. Grab a hd6870 and then in future games you won't get such a bottleneck. The slower thing in the system is the bottleneck if that makes since. Get it now?

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HostileDonut wrote :

No. I'll explain a bottleneck. Your CPU "feeds" your GPU information. When you have a very fast GPU, but a slowish CPU, the CPU can't "feed" the information to the GPU quick enough. Your CPU may be running 100% in some games, where your GPU will be running at 60%. Some ways to reduce bottleneck is by making your game settings higher, putting more work on the GPU, evening it out. Since your res is "only" 1080p, you will still bottleneck. Grab a hd6870 and then in future games you won't get such a bottleneck. The slower thing in the system is the bottleneck if that makes since. Get it now?



Yeah, well i might just get a new mother board and cpu and get new graphic card in the future :D

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silverbrit wrote :

Yeah, well i might just get a new mother board and cpu and get new graphic card in the future :D


Okay, if that's what you really want to do. Well, want a suggestion on a motherboard and CPU?

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If you do want a suggestion, what is your budget?

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HostileDonut wrote :

If you do want a suggestion, what is your budget?




About no more then 250$

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HostileDonut wrote :

That depends. Some new motherboard will support 800Mhz if he has it.

 

So a s1155 or AM3+ mobo that uses 800mhz DDR2? Good luck finding one of those, lol.


Message edited by geekapproved on 05-22-2011 at 03:01:53 PM
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What is the best GPU that wont make the CPU Bottleneck for the Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz?

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Even a 5770 would probably be bottlenecked at 2.33ghz

 

I've seen a test on Tom's where a X2 7850 at 2.8ghz bottlenecked a 4770, of course that was the older phenom I architecture.

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Even a 5770 would probably be bottlenecked at 2.33ghz

I've seen a test on Tom's where a X2 7850 at 2.8ghz bottlenecked a 4770, of course that was the older phenom I architecture.




So your pretty much saying if i want a decent graphi card i need a better cpu/motherboard.

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geekapproved wrote :

Even a 5770 would probably be bottlenecked at 2.33ghz

I've seen a test on Tom's where a X2 7850 at 2.8ghz bottlenecked a 4770, of course that was the older phenom I architecture.




Can you have a look at my lastest post?

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] rade-q8200

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silverbrit wrote :

So your pretty much saying if i want a decent graphi card i need a better cpu/motherboard.



No I'm saying I wouldn't bother getting anything better than a GTX460.

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HostileDonut wrote :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product DDR2 800 and 1066 if you have those

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

 

Less than $250. Later, upgrade to DDR3 1600 and a nice GPU.

 

AM3 motherboards require DDR3. You cannot use DDR2 on it. LOL

 

Besides "upgrading" to AM3 makes no sense. It's already obsolete.

 

He'd could get a i3-2100 and a Z68 for cheaper than that AM3 you posted (and faster for gaming) and he could upgrade to a i7 in a year. Really he could even just use a $70 H67 or hell I'm using a $60 H61.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.642585

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geekapproved wrote :

AM3 motherboards require DDR3. You cannot use DDR2 on it. LOL

Besides "upgrading" to AM3 makes no sense. It's already obsolete.

He'd could get a i3-2100 and a Z68 for cheaper than that AM3 you posted (and faster for gaming) and he could upgrade to a i7 in a year. Really he could even just use a $70 H67 or hell I'm using a $60 H61.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.642585




Well ok heres my new sitiuation, my budget is exactly 375$.

This is what im probally going to get:

GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127565 259$

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817207007 89$

So thats already $342.97 including shipping.

I know my CPU will bottleneck a GTX 560 Ti, but i read it wont bottleneck it too much. (also im not too worried at the moment because in the future if i upgrade my motherboard it will go faster etc.)


Any suggestions/concerns/opinions are greatly appreciated.

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I would like to add the PSU i currently have right now is:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocket [...] Id=9648492

I was wanting to know if i could use that instead of paying 89$ for a new 650w PSU.

Thanks

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I wouldn't use a rocketfish to power my usb coffee warmer. It's likely a 350w unit (being generous) labeled as a 500w, and will likely explode somewhere around 400w.

 

You could try it, but beware.

 

This psu will work great for you and is a bit cheaper, but it only has a 3yr warranty.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371035

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geekapproved wrote :

I wouldn't use a rocketfish to power my usb coffee warmer. It's likely a 350w unit (being generous) labeled as a 500w, and will likely explode somewhere around 400w.

You could try it, but beware.

This psu will work great for you and is a bit cheaper, but it only has a 3yr warranty.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371035



Ok thank you for your help.

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geekapproved wrote :

AM3 motherboards require DDR3. You cannot use DDR2 on it. LOL

Besides "upgrading" to AM3 makes no sense. It's already obsolete.

He'd could get a i3-2100 and a Z68 for cheaper than that AM3 you posted (and faster for gaming) and he could upgrade to a i7 in a year. Really he could even just use a $70 H67 or hell I'm using a $60 H61.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.642585


It says it'll take 800Mhz. I am not an expert, but that sounds like DDR2. Also, he could grab this DDR3 1600Mhz to go with it for $30.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820178265

Also AM3 is not outdated. An OCed to 4Ghz Phenom II X2 or X4 will be about the same as a i3 2100. The only reason Intel's i3 is winning now is because games normally use 2 threads. Wait till they use four, the Phenom II X4 @ even 3Ghz will win. If he OCed it, he could get a whopping 4+ Ghz with a decent cooler.

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It says it'll take 800Mhz. I am not an expert, but that sounds like DDR2. Also, he could grab this DDR3 1600Mhz to go with it for $30.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820178265

 

Also AM3 is not outdated. An OCed to 4Ghz Phenom II X2 or X4 will be about the same as a i3 2100. The only reason Intel's i3 is winning now is because games normally use 2 threads. Wait till they use four, the Phenom II X4 @ even 3Ghz will win. If he OCed it, he could get a whopping 4+ Ghz with a decent cooler.

 

Your clearly not and expert. 800mhz DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDRTHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 

THAT BOARD CLEARLY SAYS DDR3, AS WITH ALL AM3 MOTHERBOARDS, 800mhz-1600mhz DDR3 , PLEASE GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD, YOU CANNOT USE DDR2.

 

DDR2 won't even physically fit in the slot.

 

Stop giving him false information. Your telling him to buy something that's not even going to work together.

 

AM3 is obsolete come next month. It has no upgrade path.

 

The i3-2100 is the best gaming cpu in the $125 range ($110 now), uses half the power, and has a much better upgrade path.

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 926-3.html

 

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Your clearly not and expert. 800mhz DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDRTHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

THAT BOARD CLEARLY SAYS DDR3, AS WITH ALL AM3 MOTHERBOARDS, 800mhz-1600mhz DDR3 , PLEASE GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD, YOU CANNOT USE DDR2.

DDR2 won't even physically fit in the slot.

Stop giving him false information. Your telling him to buy something that's not even going to work together.

AM3 is obsolete come next month. It has no upgrade path.

The i3-2100 is the best gaming cpu in the $125 range ($110 now), uses half the power, and has a much better upgrade path.

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 926-3.html


Okay, I looked for 800Mhz DDR3 and couldn't find any, so I figured it must have mean't DDR2. A Phenom II X4 will smoke a core i3 come a year or two. Just because it's not the newest tech doesn't in any way make it obsolete. Okay, I screwed up, but it's a small mistake that you could have kindly notified me of. Which you didn't.... Gosh, don't be such a jerk. I don't know everything, so I could use some learning. Same with you..... In the kindness area that is...

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Guys im not even reading this any more ive decided what i want :)

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silverbrit wrote :

Guys im not even reading this any more ive decided what i want :)


Okay, what exactly are you getting?

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How could it "mean" ddr2 when it clearly says ddr3? lol

 

It was really diffucult to find, took me an entire 4 seconds.

 

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=ddr3-800

 

DDR2 WILL NOT FIT IN A DDR3 SLOT, so how could you use it anyways??

 


I'm still trying to figure out how a 955 is going to smoke a i3 in a year or two. lol

 

Besides in a year or two he can pick up a i7 that will be twice as fast as a 955. If he get's the 955, he has ZERO upgrade path and he's stuck with it and will have to buy yet another motherboard.

 

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

   

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geekapproved wrote :

How could it "mean" ddr2 when it clearly says ddr3? lol

It was really diffucult to find, took me an entire 4 seconds.

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=ddr3-800

DDR2 WILL NOT FIT IN A DDR3 SLOT, so how could you use it anyways??


I'm still trying to figure out how a 955 is going to smoke a i3 in a year or two. lol

Besides in a year or two he can pick up a i7 that will be twice as fast as a 955. If he get's the 955, he has ZERO upgrade path and he's stuck with it and will have to buy yet another motherboard.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.


You found 204-pin DDR3. Even I found that. Also, games don't normally use all four cores, when they do, that will basically double the 955 power, not to mention it can OC to 4Ghz pretty easily were the core i3 can't at all. If he wants an upgrade path, here you go.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

AM3+ socket, and all the other goodies he needs. Put a 955 in now, in three years, upgrade. Software is so far behind hardware that it will take him 2-3 years to make a 955 seem too slow.

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