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Want gpu, have GTS 250. ~350$ budget

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December 19, 2010 12:02:08 AM

Hello,
I have an evga gts 250 1g ddr3 and it's not cutting it any longer as i just purhcased a 24 inch 1080p hd monitor. My purposes are for gaming and my frames dropped pretty dramatically since i upped my resolution to 1920x1080.

The model of my gts 250 is an older one ( 01G-P3-1158-TR ).


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: asap

BUDGET: 350$ preferably

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming: Oblivion / Fallout / Dragon Age / some MMOs I.E.- Rift, WoW / CoD: BO / Mass Effect. The list goes on, I game on computers rather than console.

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: evga geforce gts 250 1g DDR3 (its an older edtion, model#- 01G-P3-1158-TR) and 1000w psu

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS: windows 7 64bit ultimate, amd phenomII x4 940 3ghz (overlcocked to 3.6) , asus m3n78 pro AM2+, 8 gig ocz ram, coolermaster haf 932 w/additional 120 mm fans.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: anywhere

PARTS PREFERENCES: doesnt matter

OVERCLOCKING: Yes

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION:, 1920x1080

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a c 130 U Graphics card
December 19, 2010 12:49:42 AM

Grab an HD5870. It will more than double the frames from your current card.

As an aside, you should upgrade your motherboard as well. Grab a motherboard capable of crossfire (you would be able to keep your current RAM), which should run about ~$100. If you do decide to do this, grab an HD6870.
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a b U Graphics card
December 19, 2010 12:51:40 AM

I would not get another gts250. The hd6870 or 5870 would be good. If you are a Nvidia fan (I hate Nvidia :fou: ) gtx460 or 470. Hope I helped. ;) 
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December 19, 2010 1:27:12 AM

I was already thinking about purchasing another mobo because mine was never the greatest even when i got it ~year and half ago(was included in a bundle for a good deal). I've learned ALOT since i built this computer, but its better to get a second opinion from an expert when doing upgrades . Which mobo make would you prefer? A lot of people don't like asus but i haven't had a problem with them yet. Would http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... be sufficient? Give me your feedback, thank you.

Edit: i noticed the mobo i linked takes ddr3 ram so i'd have to re-ram it, probably wouldnt want to do that right now.
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a c 130 U Graphics card
December 19, 2010 3:18:20 AM

You have 8gb of DDR2 RAM, which I wouldn't want to replace.

Grab this motherboard.
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December 19, 2010 7:10:02 AM

I think That gtx 460/465/470 will be better choice,get 1 of those or possibly get 460 sli,they are better than gtx 480,5870,6870,they are very very closer to gtx 580's performance,dont listen to ati fans.
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a c 282 U Graphics card
December 19, 2010 12:45:17 PM

I would get a good single card.
Sli does not scale well in some games.
Your old GTS250 is worth $50 or so on e-bay.

Look for a GTX460-1gb or a GTX470. Is a GTX570 out of the question for you?

I see no good reason to get a new motherboard. Your cpu is doing fine. It was strong enough to drive the higher frame rates you had with a smaller monitor.

If you want a great upgrade, consider a SSD for the OS and apps. Everything will feel snappier.


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December 19, 2010 4:18:54 PM

yes i think that the gtx 570 is too high up there in the price range, the highest i could go is about $300 or so. I want to be able to use this card for the next two years if im gonna purchase it for ~~300$. The GTX 470 is looking good, but i was also looking at the HD 5870. I was doing some reading and the only problem i saw with the ATI GPUs is that there is no PhysX so when it comes to games that use it they lack a lot.
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a b U Graphics card
December 19, 2010 4:21:11 PM

mrjericho1991 said:
I think That gtx 460/465/470 will be better choice,get 1 of those or possibly get 460 sli,they are better than gtx 480,5870,6870,they are very very closer to gtx 580's performance,dont listen to ati fans.

I aws giving him options. Yes, I do like AMD more. Is there anything wrong with recommending an AMD card if it is good? NO!
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December 19, 2010 5:28:26 PM



Lol.

Anyway, no more bashing people, help me please :)  .

The hd 5870 is pretty cheap w/ mail in rebate on new egg and is looking pretty nice. It has great scores on toms hardware 2010 benchmark list overall. My only concern is for some PhysX games it would lack. Would i be able to dedicate my GTS 250 for physx processing? I read somewhere that would be do-able.
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December 19, 2010 8:31:38 PM

HostileDonut said:
Yeah, okay, so I had some driver problems. It just happens to some people. (I am using Win xp 32-bit which doesn't work to well) The card's performance is great though. :kaola: 


...hapens to people who pratically beg for it by buying ATI

:kaola: 
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a c 130 U Graphics card
December 19, 2010 10:41:06 PM

Still haven't had driver problems. I'm beginning to suspect it's the people, not the drivers :whistle: 

Anyways, grab an HD5870 if you're not going to crossfire later. If you are, get an HD6950. The 5870'd be better than the GTX470, unless you want PhysX (which will have to be run on low settings).
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a b U Graphics card
December 19, 2010 11:10:45 PM

builderbobftw said:
...hapens to people who pratically beg for it by buying ATI

:kaola: 

Even Nvidia drivers are bad some times. Nvidia are maybe a little better than AMD's drivers, but Nvidia or AMD you still might have driver problems. So still Nvidia might have problems. I like AMD more though.
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December 19, 2010 11:21:12 PM

The only Nvidia driver scandle i can think of in recent history is the one where the drivers forced the fans to liek 1% speed, and killed a lot of peoples cards who had some serious volts.

Other than that, All i can think of is dozens of instances of AMD failing realy hard on the drivers front.
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 12:36:55 AM

It is not a serious driver issue. Yes, AMD does not have Nvidia quality drivers, but my driver issue is a small driver issue. I think the problem is that I have Nvidia integrated GPU. I do not think it is AMD's fault. Anyone who says AMD sucks is just an Nvidia fan- boy. I personally do not like Nvidia because of their bad business practices. The re-labled cards. (8800gt - 9800gt, 8800gtx - 9800gtx, 9800gtx+ - gts 250 512mb) Before the gtx 470 and GTX 480 were out (the "new" Frimis) ,in a meeting, the C.E.O. of the company help up a card that he called a "Firmi" when it was not even a real card. :fou:  Nvidia does not have my business. If I can find a AMD card at the same price I'll grab that. (was gonna get a gtx460 until I saw the hd6850)
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December 20, 2010 12:39:36 AM

ATI doesnt suck, they just have been ever since December 7th.

They were on top From 9/25/2008- 12/7/10.

Thats a fairly long time to be on top, now its over, deal with it.

As for AMD's CPU division, they havent made anything worthwhile since the P4 days.

They had like 3 months on top in the past 20 years, and that was 5+ years ago.
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December 20, 2010 1:23:18 AM

ok well i really dont know what to do? GTX 470, hd 5870. Any other recommendations? i need a solid answer of pro and con. i'd like to spend around 250$ but if it was REALLY worth it i could go up to 300$.

I want to max the settings out on any game i play.
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 2:17:56 AM

Radeon hd5870 or gtx 470 would be good. It just depends on price. If you can find a cheaper gtx 470 then go ahead. If you want Physx then clearly go for a Nvidia card. (only cards that support Physx) If you want raw power then a hd5870 should outperform a gtx 470.

BTW AMD makes great CPUs even though they are not the most powerful. AMD sells for a affordable price and has some pretty cool items. The new x6 that AMD just came out with beat the I7 860 in most cases. AMD's hd5970 still beats the gtx 580 (Nvidia's best card) and now AMD just came out with a stronger card. (hd6990) AMD does not have as good of drivers and you are correct on that. They also normally have better prices. ($100 hd4870 vs. $200 gtx260) AMD makes great CPUs and has better GPUs. (raw power of course)
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 2:26:05 AM

besides the GPU, the system you have is fine for now. It should give you a good bit of life gaming. Do you what a GPU to get you through your present build? Or one to bridge you into your next build?

The HD 5780 is a good value as is the GTX 470 for what you have now, if you want to bridge, I would look at the HD 6000's or the GTX 500's.


GTX 470

HD 5780


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December 20, 2010 3:04:36 AM

Embra said:
besides the GPU, the system you have is fine for now. It should give you a good bit of life gaming. Do you what a GPU to get you through your present build? Or one to bridge you into your next build?

The HD 5780 is a good value as is the GTX 470 for what you have now, if you want to bridge, I would look at the HD 6000's or the GTX 500's.


GTX 470

HD 5780



For some reason i have my heart set on the hd 5870. How would this card perform if it was put to the test in a physx based game. What would you personally take. The gtx 470 or the hd 5870?
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December 20, 2010 3:08:07 AM

Tamz_msc said:
Get this GTX 470:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It is quieter,cooler consumes less power than the stock GTX 470, comes with a healthy overclock and performs like a HD 5870, with better tessellation performance in DX 11 titles.



I definitely am more familiar with Nvidia and i think they have great support and drivers. I just read all of the reviews and most are very good. I'm definitely thinking about this superclocked gtx 470, thanks!!
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 3:09:06 AM

The HD 5870 wont be any good with PhysX enabled without a dedicated PhysX card.
If you're interested in PhysX and better tessellation, get a GTX 470, otherwise get a HD 5870.
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 3:17:34 AM

I personally would grab a 6870 I dont think it is worth it to go with the 5870 at this point and most 6870s can be oced to 5870 levels, it is newer tech and can handle dx11 better then the 5 series imo, also I would get a 6870 over a gtx 470 because of its lower heat and power consumption. Also I dont care about physx, but if you must have it I guess go for the 470 otherwise 6870 is the logical choice, they are around ~240 right now on the egg

then again if I could get any card right now reguardless of budget it would be the gtx 570 imo that is the best buy for a single card high end solution, but in the end you will be happy no matter which you choose of the mentioned gpus
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 3:19:07 AM

Or you can wait for a GTX 560.
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 4:20:41 AM

Really, it just comes down to your needs and wants. Get a gtx500 series or a hd6800 series. New tech. maybe a hd6950 or a gtx 570. ;) 
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December 20, 2010 5:32:01 AM

i was really looking hard into the Gigabyte GTX 470 SOC just now, and it can be easily overclocked to meet the level of the gtx 480, which is about a 400$ card. it has really low temps and power consumption and also very quiet. seems very intriguing. the lowest price i found although was 280$. Opinions vs other cards mentioned?
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 7:05:22 AM

As I said, the GTX 470 SOC performs as good as the HD 5870.When overclocked, it will easily surpass a HD 6950 and get quite close to a GTX 570/ HD 6970.
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 4:25:13 PM

HostileDonut said:
It is not a serious driver issue. Yes, AMD does not have Nvidia quality drivers, but my driver issue is a small driver issue. I think the problem is that I have Nvidia integrated GPU. I do not think it is AMD's fault. Anyone who says AMD sucks is just an Nvidia fan- boy. I personally do not like Nvidia because of their bad business practices. The re-labled cards. (8800gt - 9800gt, 8800gtx - 9800gtx, 9800gtx+ - gts 250 512mb) Before the gtx 470 and GTX 480 were out (the "new" Frimis) ,in a meeting, the C.E.O. of the company help up a card that he called a "Firmi" when it was not even a real card. :fou:  Nvidia does not have my business. If I can find a AMD card at the same price I'll grab that. (was gonna get a gtx460 until I saw the hd6850)

For starters you have the re naming bit wrong as the 8800GTX was a G8x not a G9x and had been discontinued before things were re named and apart from not being able to spell Fermi correctly only a true fanatic would have a proble with seeing a mock up of an upcoming product, do you hate all car companies then? Because they have been using clay mock ups for years and half of them don't even make it into production.
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 4:39:33 PM

HostileDonut said:
Radeon hd5870 or gtx 470 would be good. It just depends on price. If you can find a cheaper gtx 470 then go ahead. If you want Physx then clearly go for a Nvidia card. (only cards that support Physx) If you want raw power then a hd5870 should outperform a gtx 470.

BTW AMD makes great CPUs even though they are not the most powerful. AMD sells for a affordable price and has some pretty cool items. The new x6 that AMD just came out with beat the I7 860 in most cases. AMD's hd5970 still beats the gtx 580 (Nvidia's best card) and now AMD just came out with a stronger card. (hd6990) AMD does not have as good of drivers and you are correct on that. They also normally have better prices. ($100 hd4870 vs. $200 gtx260) AMD makes great CPUs and has better GPUs. (raw power of course)


Please, can you post a link to a review of this 6990 that has just come out?
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 4:53:45 PM

Mousemonkey, are you an Nvidia fan boy? I would like Nvidia equal to AMD because they do, indeed, make a good product. They have just pulled some serious crap that AMD doesn't. The card that he said was a Fermi (haha knew I was spelling fermi wrong last time, just didn't know where :lol: ) he was trying to say that it was a real card, when it was never released. Nvidia has lost my business unless they will come out with a card that beats AMD's in price and performance. AMD doesn't pull crap like Nvidia and also normally comes out with the cheapest product. Yes, I do admit that Nvidia has WAAAAAAY more stable drivers, but I still prefer AMD. Like it or not, I do.
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 5:09:41 PM

HostileDonut said:
Mousemonkey, are you an Nvidia fan boy? I would like Nvidia equal to AMD because they do, indeed, make a good product. They have just pulled some serious crap that AMD doesn't. The card that he said was a Fermi (haha knew I was spelling fermi wrong last time, just didn't know where :lol: ) he was trying to say that it was a real card, when it was never released. Nvidia has lost my business unless they will come out with a card that beats AMD's in price and performance. AMD doesn't pull crap like Nvidia and also normally comes out with the cheapest product. Yes, I do admit that Nvidia has WAAAAAAY more stable drivers, but I still prefer AMD. Like it or not, I do.

Yes I do prefer Nvidia to Ati, one reason being that I don't see why I should spend money on a card that can't run properly because the software required to make it run does not work properly and as for the "crap" what about the 5xxx GSOD that Ati refused to acknowledge for almost four months or so before coming up with a "fix", to a problem they said didn't exist?
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 6:06:23 PM

Well, I do see why you are mad at AMD. If Nvidia didn't do some dumb things, then I would probably like them more. AMD does have some better prices you gotta admit, like $100 for a hd4870 and $200 for a gtx260. It makes no sense, the only people who would buy a gtx260 are fan boys of Nvidia.
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 6:11:45 PM

At least people wouldn't buy a 6870 or 6850 in the belief that they are updated and faster cards than the 5850 or 5870 would they? And where is that link to the HD6990 that just came out?
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 6:15:11 PM

200 for a gtx 260... where only one i found in stock on newegg was 110

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i think if you find a premium on 260's on other sites its probably due to lack of stock and wanting to cash in on people who want to sli thier existing cards
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 6:24:33 PM

Mousemonkey said:
At least people wouldn't buy a 6870 or 6850 in the belief that they are updated and faster cards than the 5850 or 5870 would they? And where is that link to the HD6990 that just came out?

I realized that the 6990 was going to be late. :(  I like AMD that's all I am saying, if you don't like it that is too bad.
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 6:30:22 PM

HostileDonut said:
I realized that the 6990 was going to be late. :(  I like AMD that's all I am saying, if you don't like it that is too bad.

And you don't like Nvidia, I just find your reasons "interesting" as Ati are not quite the angelic company that you seem to be trying to make them out to be and so what if their cards are cheaper? Maybe you only get what you pay for? [:mousemonkey]
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 6:38:59 PM

It seems that the only thing that AMD lacks is driver stability, which I will not pay a small fortune for.
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 6:44:42 PM

HostileDonut said:
It seems that the only thing that AMD lacks is driver stability, which I will not pay a small fortune for.

Each to their own I guess.
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December 20, 2010 6:57:58 PM

HostileDonut said:
It seems that the only thing that AMD lacks is driver stability, which I will not pay a small fortune for.


I dont understand this "small fortune" coment.

To me it seems like you pay 20$ MORE for driver instability by purchasing an ATI 6970 as opposed to the GTX 570.

Considering the cards preform the same, youre losing Physx, driver stablity, etc etc and payign 20$ more just so you can support an underperforming company and buy somehtign with a red logo.
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 7:10:11 PM

I do not want Physx. Normally AMD drivers work pretty well anyway. Yes, I do know that they are not top of the line drivers. Besides that AMD just has a better selection too. Better price tag. AMD does NOT pull crap like Nvidia does. Nvidia has lost my business. I will probably not buty fom Intel or Nvidia because of bad business practices. Even if Nvidia provided a product at the same price as AMD with same performance they have made some bad choices and for that I will not support them. Down with Nvidia up with AMD. :kaola: 
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 7:13:11 PM

HostileDonut said:
I do not want Physx. Normally AMD drivers work pretty well anyway. Yes, I do know that they are not top of the line drivers. Besides that AMD just has a better selection too. Better price tag. AMD does NOT pull crap like Nvidia does. Nvidia has lost my business. I will probably not buty fom Intel or Nvidia because of bad business practices. Even if Nvidia provided a product at the same price as AMD with same performance they have made some bad choices and for that I will not support them. Down with Nvidia up with AMD. :kaola: 

How does what you want help the OP?
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 7:14:56 PM

Mousemonkey said:
How does what you want help the OP?

Really, to be frank, nobody needs GPU accelerated physics. If you have a strong enough CPU you will be fine. I do think that anyone who buys an Nvidia card for Physx is making a mistake.
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a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 7:16:09 PM

Mousemonkey, by any chance did you delete one of my posts?
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 7:18:32 PM

HostileDonut said:
Really, to be frank, nobody needs GPU accelerated physics. If you have a strong enough CPU you will be fine. I do think that anyone who buys an Nvidia card for Physx is making a mistake.

Just because you don't want it does not mean that someone else might not want or need it, so what makes you think that the OP cares what you think? Stick to the topic or get off the thread.
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a c 273 U Graphics card
December 20, 2010 7:19:39 PM

HostileDonut said:
Mousemonkey, by any chance did you delete one of my posts?

Yes, because you've derailed it enough already with your opinions.
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