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March 26, 2005 3:10:50 PM

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Ive heard that there no longer is a need for recovery cds with new
laptops as there is a hidden partition that completes this.

Also, I see the $30. product thats available to buy. Is there an option
for users of older laptops using the OS Win Me to use to enable similar
features?

Thanks

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Anonymous
a b D Laptop
March 26, 2005 10:09:28 PM

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spooner wrote:
> Ive heard that there no longer is a need for recovery cds with new
> laptops as there is a hidden partition that completes this.
>
> Also, I see the $30. product thats available to buy. Is there an
> option for users of older laptops using the OS Win Me to use to
> enable similar features?
>
> Thanks

The hidden partition is a brand-specific implementation. If it exists,
it might be used to reinstall the original HD image or it might be used
to create recovery CDs. There is no general rule.

Phoenix Firstware is a ROM-based recovery system for OEM laptop
manufacturers. It is not a user product. I have neither read of nor
heard of any laptop computer using this recovery method. It certainly
is not available for older laptops.

You best bet for installation recovery is a backup hard drive (USB1.1
will work, but won't be pleasant due to speed) or software imaging
system such as Ghost, Acronis.

Q
March 27, 2005 6:34:35 PM

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Hi all,

I have a Dell laptop with the recovery option you mentioned.

The plus point is that should your system be messed up by a driver
installation or virus, the recovery works like
a charm, you simply press the Fn + Fx key to activate it and the hard disk
is returned to a clean factory installtion state. This takes less than 20
mins.

Reinstalling XP and all the drivers etc, software manually can take hours if
you do it yourself!

The -ve is that it takes up about 3 GB of hard disk space, which is quite a
big deal where laptop hard disks are concerned. For an advanced user like
myself, I'd prefer to

1. delete off the 3GB hidden recovery partition
2.use Norton Ghost to back up my system on a recordable DVD+-RW.

--
Regards,

MacGyver.



"Quaoar" <quaoar@tenthplanet.net> wrote in message
news:rJqdnalgKplFiNvfRVn-oA@comcast.com...
> spooner wrote:
>> Ive heard that there no longer is a need for recovery cds with new
>> laptops as there is a hidden partition that completes this.
>>
>> Also, I see the $30. product thats available to buy. Is there an
>> option for users of older laptops using the OS Win Me to use to
>> enable similar features?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> The hidden partition is a brand-specific implementation. If it exists, it
> might be used to reinstall the original HD image or it might be used to
> create recovery CDs. There is no general rule.
>
> Phoenix Firstware is a ROM-based recovery system for OEM laptop
> manufacturers. It is not a user product. I have neither read of nor
> heard of any laptop computer using this recovery method. It certainly is
> not available for older laptops.
>
> You best bet for installation recovery is a backup hard drive (USB1.1 will
> work, but won't be pleasant due to speed) or software imaging system such
> as Ghost, Acronis.
>
> Q
>
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Anonymous
a b D Laptop
March 27, 2005 6:34:36 PM

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MacGyver wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a Dell laptop with the recovery option you mentioned.
>
> The plus point is that should your system be messed up by a driver
> installation or virus, the recovery works like
> a charm, you simply press the Fn + Fx key to activate it and the hard
> disk is returned to a clean factory installtion state. This takes
> less than 20 mins.
>
> Reinstalling XP and all the drivers etc, software manually can take
> hours if you do it yourself!
>
> The -ve is that it takes up about 3 GB of hard disk space, which is
> quite a big deal where laptop hard disks are concerned. For an
> advanced user like myself, I'd prefer to
>
> 1. delete off the 3GB hidden recovery partition
> 2.use Norton Ghost to back up my system on a recordable DVD+-RW.
>
>
> "Quaoar" <quaoar@tenthplanet.net> wrote in message
> news:rJqdnalgKplFiNvfRVn-oA@comcast.com...
>> spooner wrote:
>>> Ive heard that there no longer is a need for recovery cds with new
>>> laptops as there is a hidden partition that completes this.
>>>
>>> Also, I see the $30. product thats available to buy. Is there an
>>> option for users of older laptops using the OS Win Me to use to
>>> enable similar features?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> The hidden partition is a brand-specific implementation. If it
>> exists, it might be used to reinstall the original HD image or it
>> might be used to create recovery CDs. There is no general rule.
>>
>> Phoenix Firstware is a ROM-based recovery system for OEM laptop
>> manufacturers. It is not a user product. I have neither read of nor
>> heard of any laptop computer using this recovery method. It
>> certainly is not available for older laptops.
>>
>> You best bet for installation recovery is a backup hard drive
>> (USB1.1 will work, but won't be pleasant due to speed) or software
>> imaging system such as Ghost, Acronis.
>>
>> Q

"Power Users" generally advocate deleting the recovery partition. There
is rarely a reason given for doing so. Newsgroups are filled with
"Power Users" asking for help after doing this.

Q
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
March 27, 2005 9:59:10 PM

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Why would they offer this software in stores if it wasnt for users?

I have an older Vaio and the new ones have this feature (hidden partition).
March 27, 2005 11:31:57 PM

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A link provided on Phoenixs site.
Anonymous
a b D Laptop
March 28, 2005 12:22:13 AM

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Spooner? wrote:
> Why would they offer this software in stores if it wasnt for users?
>
> I have an older Vaio and the new ones have this feature (hidden
> partition).

Where have you seen the Phoenix Firstware for retail sale? Hidden
partitions are quite common. I might not have been clear.

Q
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