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February 22, 2011 9:05:38 PM

Hey everyone,

I am building a brand new gaming PC and am in the process of putting together a list of parts. My budget is around $1,800 with a little bit of breathing room. Like I said, this is a gaming rig and I will give a list of games I intend to play at the bottom. So, I won't keep you waiting any longer:


First up,

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K

Thoughts: This CPU seems pretty awesome from everything I have read. Supposedly easy to OC even for beginners like me, I was thinking of maybe going to 4.0GHz. Does the Turboboost affect the manual overclock, or once you manually do it does it override it?
Price: $229.99 -- Free Shipping




HS: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7

Thoughts: Cheap, good reviews, seems to be highly suggested.
Price: $29.99 -- $3.99 shipping




TIM: MASSCOOL G751 Shin-Etsu Thermal Interface Material

Thoughts: Not much to say really, someone suggested I get it and it has good reviews.
Price: $4.99 -- $1.99 shipping




Mobo: ASUS P8P67 Pro

Thoughts: Going with the pro version for future SLI expansion. Sucks that they got recalled, they are coming back out in March or April? I have seen a few people say to go with the ASRock one...is there much difference?
Price: N/A --- Last I saw was around $185




GPU: EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Thoughts: Seems pretty awesome, SC since I am new to this and am not really sure I want to mess with OCing too much yet. Planning on buying another for SLI sometime down the road, more on this later. It's out of stock on newegg, anyone know how often they get new shipments? It is also on Amazon for $20 more.
Price: $359.99 -- $4.99 shipping




RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

Thoughts: It seems pretty good for what I can tell, I originally planed on getting the Corsair Vengence but there didn't really seem to be any difference except price.
Price: $99.99 -- Free shipping




PSU: XFX Black Edition XPS-850W-BES 850W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Thoughts: Good as far as I can tell, silver certified. My question here is, will this 850W PSU be able to run SLI GTX 570 Superclocked, plus an OCed CPU (probably around 4.0GHz, but could be higher) and all the other things in my PC?
Price: $149.99 -- $5.99 shipping




SSD: Corsair Performance 3 Series CSSD-P364GB2-BRKT 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Thoughts: I don't really know anything about SSD except that is expensive. 64g should be enough for my OS and a few games. Is this a good SSD to go with?
Price: $164.99 -- Free shipping




HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Thoughts: Good reviews, 64MB Cache, 1TB for all the stuff I need to save.
Price: $89.99 -- Free shipping




Case: COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Thoughts: This one took me awhile to decide on. It is pretty expensive but has awesome reviews, lots of big fans, it's very big and roomy and seems that fans have filters, which I need because my house gets dusty!! Does anyone know how easy they are to clean? Do you get what you pay for? If I do get this one, should I get the red and black or this. (I know it's personal tase but still would like to hear your opinions)
Price: $199.99 -- Free shipping




Monitor: ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen Full HD 1080P LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 20000 :1 (ASCR) Built-in Speakers

Thoughts: It looks nice, good ratings. I don't NEED a monitor so that is the only draw back, but it would be a welcomed upgrade from my 19 inch.
Price: $179.99 -- Free shipping




Mouse: Razer Naga Special Edition - Molten

Thoughts: Pretty awesome, maybe a cure for my "clickeritus"
Price: $79.99 -- Free shipping




Keyboard: Logitech G110 Black USB Wired LED Backlighting Gaming Keyboard

Thoughts: A little bit more than I would usually spend but it seems good and it's on sale.
Price: $64.99 -- Free shipping




Headphones/mic: N/A

Thoughts: Not sure what to get here, want something affordable but decent (who could have guessed). You guys have any suggestions?
Price: No higher than $80.00 preferably


Oh yeah,

DVD drive: ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Thoughts: Just one of those things you need!
Price: $17.99 -- $4.99 shipping



Whew, done! That is it I think, I am pretty sure I have everything up there. That brings me to a total of......drumroll d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d.....$2,029.82 if my math is correct which is a little over what I was intending to spend. This is where I think maybe I should get rid of something not needed (monitor, SSD, cheaper keyboard, cheaper case, or no headset).

Anyways, I would KILL for some opinions/advice/answers from any and all of you. Please and Thanks!!

P.S. List of Games: Rift, SC2, Diablo 3 (if it even comes out), Crysis Warhead, Metro 2033 and probably a few I am not thinking of atm.

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a b 4 Gaming
February 22, 2011 10:41:10 PM

Great build. You did your research. I might go with a Samsung Spinpoint F3 hard drive ove that much more expensive WD Black, The F3 is just as fast and reliable and about $25 cheaper.
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a b 4 Gaming
February 22, 2011 10:52:54 PM

Great build, yes Anort is right as well.

I dunno why your build comes out so high though. Check out my siggy for any build critiques. The only thing I have would be SSD and motherboard suggestions. The Asrock Extreme4 P67 is also a cheaper option at 152$. Also supports SLI and overclocks the 2500K just as good as the P67 PRo.

SSD Suggestion, same price basically before MIR. 150 AR. OCZ Vertex 2 80gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It maybe slower on the Reads, but kills in writes. The main reason for this suggestion is because SF-12xx controllers tend to have a better overall performance as opposed to Marvell or Idlex (something like that) controllers. If you want a SATA III SSD I suggest waiting for the Vertex 3 or SF-2xxx controllers. Oh plus won't really notice the difference in real world from the SATA II to SATA III. Plus you get 20gb more.
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February 22, 2011 11:16:27 PM

aznshinobi said:
Great build, yes Anort is right as well.

I dunno why your build comes out so high though. Check out my siggy for any build critiques. The only thing I have would be SSD and motherboard suggestions. The Asrock Extreme4 P67 is also a cheaper option at 152$. Also supports SLI and overclocks the 2500K just as good as the P67 PRo.

SSD Suggestion, same price basically before MIR. 150 AR. OCZ Vertex 2 80gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It maybe slower on the Reads, but kills in writes. The main reason for this suggestion is because SF-12xx controllers tend to have a better overall performance as opposed to Marvell or Idlex (something like that) controllers. If you want a SATA III SSD I suggest waiting for the Vertex 3 or SF-2xxx controllers. Oh plus won't really notice the difference in real world from the SATA II to SATA III. Plus you get 20gb more.



I think it is mostly because of the monitor/keyboard/mouse/headset...that totals around $400 so without those it would be a $1,600-$1,650 build. That seems like a pretty nice price when you look at it that way. Minus the SSD and a less expensive case it would probably be near $1,450. What is the difference between the two mobos?

Also, thanks for the link to that SSD I'll have to check it out.

@anort3 How much does a smaller cache effect anything? That one has a 32MB vs a 64MB

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a b 4 Gaming
February 22, 2011 11:22:18 PM


Ohhhh I see I see.
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a b 4 Gaming
February 22, 2011 11:29:57 PM

He might have had a helper or three.

XFX Black Edition XPS-850W will run TWO SLI GTX 570 Superclocked, plus an 4.5Ghz OCed CPU. And have room for more minor upgrades, extra HDDs, etc.
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a b 4 Gaming
February 22, 2011 11:31:20 PM

OH SNAP REALLY?!@#!@#

I didn't know that. But It would give him head room, after all he wants a dedicated card. That was just a suggestion for if he was going to get a dedicated card etc. etc.

Didn't know the 850w was so powerful.
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a b 4 Gaming
February 22, 2011 11:35:04 PM

If your credit card is screaming at you a different SSD and Case are two ares you can trim with killing performance. Yes, a Corsair Performance 3 SSD is faster than the OCZ Vertex 2. But both ARE excellent SSDs and you don't need to but the top dawg to outstanding performance.
Like you could have gone for the GTX 580 SLI setup.
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a b 4 Gaming
February 22, 2011 11:43:06 PM

Now if he wants to really PUSH the factory overclocked GTX 570s to the max power sucking ability they have... overclock the factory overclocks... then maybe the XFX Black Edition XPS-850W isnt right for him.
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February 22, 2011 11:46:13 PM

WR2 said:
He might have had a helper or three.

XFX Black Edition XPS-850W will run TWO SLI GTX 570 Superclocked, plus an 4.5Ghz OCed CPU. And have room for more minor upgrades, extra HDDs, etc.


Yes, thanks for helping me in my previous thread...thanks for nothing! Haha JK :ange: 
That's really awesome to hear that the 850w PSU can handle all that. The gtx 570 SC won't even get close? even with a 4.5GHz CPU? of that will be cutting it pretty close? I don't think I will even go over the factory overclock on the GPU, I think they were something like 797MHz.

Also, thanks to JackNaylorPE and Why_me...sorry if I am forgetting anyone!

Oh yeah, does the turbo boost on the CPU affect it post-OCing like if you OC to 4.0GHz it will turbo to 4.4GHz? or does it only have a maximum limit, say 3.7GHz and if you overclock higher than 3.7GHz it no longer does anything?

I wish I could afford the 580 GTX SLI :cry: 

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a b 4 Gaming
February 22, 2011 11:47:02 PM

I'm hurt Kenorwoks :( 
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February 22, 2011 11:52:26 PM

aznshinobi said:
I'm hurt Kenorwoks :( 



Did anyone hear something?...


:kaola: 
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a b 4 Gaming
February 22, 2011 11:52:33 PM

kenorwoks said:
This CPU seems pretty awesome from everything I have read. Supposedly easy to OC even for beginners like me, I was thinking of maybe going to 4.0GHz. Does the Turboboost affect the manual overclock, or once you manually do it does it override it?
You want to read the THG article: Core i7-2600K Overclocked: Speed Meets Efficiency where they cover that really well.
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a b 4 Gaming
February 22, 2011 11:55:41 PM

Very hurt.

Yeah THG did that review really nicely.
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a b 4 Gaming
February 22, 2011 11:57:08 PM

The short answer.
With good cooling the THG guys were able to get 4.5 GHz on 4-Cores; and turbo with 4.8 GHz on 1-Core. And a bit more besides.
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a b 4 Gaming
February 22, 2011 11:58:00 PM

That review was a good read, well worth the time.
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February 23, 2011 12:02:53 AM

Thanks a lot for all this info guys, I will definitely read that review tonight or tomorrow.
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February 24, 2011 2:04:44 PM

Updated list:


CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K

Thoughts: This CPU seems pretty awesome from everything I have read. Supposedly easy to OC even for beginners like me, I was thinking of maybe going to 4.0GHz. Does the Turboboost affect the manual overclock, or once you manually do it does it override it?
Price: $229.99 -- Free Shipping




HS: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7

Thoughts: Cheap, good reviews, seems to be highly suggested.
Price: $29.99 -- $3.99 shipping




TIM: MASSCOOL G751 Shin-Etsu Thermal Interface Material

Thoughts: Not much to say really, someone suggested I get it and it has good reviews.
Price: $4.99 -- $1.99 shipping




Mobo: ASUS P8P67 Pro

Thoughts: Going with the pro version for future SLI expansion. Sucks that they got recalled, they are coming back out in March or April? I have seen a few people say to go with the ASRock one...is there much difference?
Price: N/A --- Last I saw was around $185




GPU: EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Thoughts: Seems pretty awesome, SC since I am new to this and am not really sure I want to mess with OCing too much yet. Planning on buying another for SLI sometime down the road, more on this later. It's out of stock on newegg, anyone know how often they get new shipments? It is also on Amazon for $20 more.
Price: $359.99 -- $4.99 shipping




RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

Thoughts: It seems pretty good for what I can tell, I originally planed on getting the Corsair Vengence but there didn't really seem to be any difference except price.
Price: $99.99 -- Free shipping




PSU: XFX Black Edition XPS-850W-BES 850W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

New one: CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Thoughts: Has a rating of 9.5 on johnnyGuru, silver certified and since an 850W PSU be able to run SLI GTX 570 Superclocked, plus an OCed CPU and all the other things in my PC I should be good to go!
Price: $164.99 -- $5.99 shipping




SSD: Corsair Performance 3 Series CSSD-P364GB2-BRKT 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

New one: Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC064MAG-1G1 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Thoughts: Cheaper than the first one, seems better from what I an tell. Lower sequential read/write but it has a 4k read/write of 60k/15k, the other one I was looking at doesn't even list its 4k read/write
Price: $124.99



HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

New one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Thoughts: Cheaper, smaller chache but since I am going to have all my games on my SSD, its not really that big of a deal.
Price: $64.99 -- Free shipping




Case: COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Thoughts: This one took me awhile to decide on. It is pretty expensive but has awesome reviews, lots of big fans, it's very big and roomy and seems that fans have filters, which I need because my house gets dusty!! Does anyone know how easy they are to clean? Do you get what you pay for? If I do get this one, should I get the red and black or this. (I know it's personal tase but still would like to hear your opinions)
Price: $199.99 -- Free shipping




Monitor: ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen Full HD 1080P LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 20000 :1 (ASCR) Built-in Speakers

New one: ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 20000:1) Built in Speakers

Thoughts: Same price, bigger, better rating, 4x customer award winner and a free stand.
Price: $179.99 -- $8.99


Mouse: Razer Naga Special Edition - Molten

Thoughts: Pretty awesome, maybe a cure for my "clickeritus"
Price: $79.99 -- Free shipping




Keyboard: Logitech G110 Black USB Wired LED Backlighting Gaming Keyboard

Thoughts: A little bit more than I would usually spend but it seems good and it's on sale.
Price: $64.99 -- Free shipping




Headphones/mic: N/A

Thoughts: Not sure what to get here, want something affordable but decent (who could have guessed). You guys have any suggestions?
Price: No higher than $80.00 preferably


Oh yeah,

DVD drive: ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Thoughts: Just one of those things you need!
Price: $17.99 -- $4.99 shipping


I think thats it. Saves me some money and even made a few upgrades, hooray for deals!

As always, would love to hear input and answers to any of my previous questions or questions in this new list. Thanks!
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a b 4 Gaming
February 24, 2011 4:22:08 PM

I can see where and how to cut some cost on that build and not lose any performance/quality. If you pay taxes where you live, then go for amazon or buy.com as much as possible.

http://www.asrock.com/news/events/201102ex/warranty.htm... <----- Look for the B3 Stepping Chipset Logo/Sticker on the new boards

http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000116#axzz1... <---Review on that Asrock motherboard after the latest bios

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1098/pg2/asrock-e... <---Review on that Asrock motherboard after the latest bios

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4080/welcome-to-sandy-bri... <--- Review before the latest bios...and it still stomped the Asus and Gigabyte boards :) 

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=P67%20Extre... $152.99 @ newegg
ASRock P67 Extreme4

Same case but $20 cheaper (free shipping + no tax)...

http://www.buy.com/prod/cooler-master-system-cabinet-fu... $179.99 FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Combo your cpu w/ heat sink (that h/s comes with decent thermal paste, no need to add any to your list)...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Price: $251.98
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...

Just as fast as that WD h/d yet cheaper...

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-H... $64.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.5 inch Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive HD103SJ

Large RAM h/s tend to get in the way of larger cpu h/s...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR

Solid 850w psu...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $124.99 FREE SHIPPING
Seasonic SS-850HT 850W ATX12V v2.31,EPS12V v2.92 80Plus Silver Certified, Active PFC Power Supply - OEM

Same keyboard (free shipping + no tax)...

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-002232-Gaming-Keyboa... $64.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Logitech Gaming Keyboard G110

Here's a mouse worth looking at imo...

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G500-Programmable-Gaming... $53.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Logitech G500 Programmable Gaming Mouse
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