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(Sapphire or XFX) Radeon 5570

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December 21, 2010 7:02:59 PM

My wife's HP desktop is having trouble with the new WoW expansion so we've determined that she needs a new video card. Which would you recommend? The Sapphire or XFX? Links are included.



Also, here are the specs of her desktop.

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System Information
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Power Suppy: 300w
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100618-1621)
System Manufacturer: HP-Pavilion
System Model: AV019AA-ABA p6228p
BIOS: BIOS Date: 09/08/09 15:16:20 Ver: 5.18
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor (4 CPUs), ~2.6GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 7936MB RAM
Page File: 1948MB used, 13919MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9100
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 9100
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0847&SUBSYS_2A81103C&REV_A2
Display Memory: 3821 MB
Dedicated Memory: 239 MB
Shared Memory: 3582 MB
Current Mode: 1600 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: HP 2009 Series Wide LCD Monitor
Monitor Model: HP 2009
Monitor Id: HWP2828
Native Mode: 1600 x 900(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.15.0011.8640 (English)
Driver Version: 8.15.11.8640
DDI Version: 10
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/18/2009 03:41:00, 9490944 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4B07-11CF-4C52-8A0A02C2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0847
SubSys ID: 0x2A81103C
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Driver Strong Name: oem3.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section003:8.15.11.8640:p ci\ven_10de&dev_0847&subsys_2a81103c
Rank Of Driver: 00E60001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C
a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2010 7:05:28 PM

XFX and Sapphire are both perfectly fine GPU makers. I've owned products from both companies. I did have a chance to RMA an XFX Motherboard that failed once and they were pretty good about it. :) 

The ATI 5570 is probably a suitable video card for her system. Can you tell us what resolution her monitor is, and what power supply is in her system though? Just so we can help you make sure it's the best choice?

Edit: Wow 8GB of RAM in an Athlon II system? Impressed I think? lol
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December 21, 2010 7:10:51 PM

It's a 300w power supply.

Thanks.
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December 21, 2010 7:13:11 PM

A 5570 would be good but for $30 more you can get a 5670 which would be 40-60% better in terms of performance.Although you don't need much for your 1600x900 res it would still be better to get a 5670.I think they did give the new expansion a little bit of a buff to the graphics.

Your old card 256mb,no wonder you would have problems.Get a good 1G card and you should be fine
Your Power Supply might be an issue,Since it's an HP computer i'm gonna guess it's a 250watt psu,they dont make quailty units but at 250watts it shouldn't be a huge problem,might want to get some more opinions on the PSU.

Much better card for the same price

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I do currently own a 5570 and it pulls it's weight for what it is but with the 5670 at the same price it would be a better investment

EDIT:Your drivers for your current graphics card are outdated,they are from last year try updating them from nvidias website see if you cant squeeze 5fps more from an update see if that helps.
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a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2010 7:18:19 PM

regn47 said:

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9100
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 9100
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0847&SUBSYS_2A81103C&REV_A2
Display Memory: 3821 MB
Dedicated Memory: 239 MB
Shared Memory: 3582 MB
Current Mode: 1600 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: HP 2009 Series Wide LCD Monitor
Monitor Model: HP 2009
Monitor Id: HWP2828
Native Mode: 1600 x 900(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.15.0011.8640 (English)
Driver Version: 8.15.11.8640
DDI Version: 10
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/18/2009 03:41:00, 9490944 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4B07-11CF-4C52-8A0A02C2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0847
SubSys ID: 0x2A81103C
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Driver Strong Name: oem3.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section003:8.15.11.8640:p ci\ven_10de&dev_0847&subsys_2a81103c
Rank Of Driver: 00E60001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C


Thanks for adding that part to your OP. :)  Your 300W PSU could manage for you, depending on some of it's other stats. Any way you can peak at the label on the PSU itself? Notably it'd be nice to see what the +12V amperage(s) are.
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December 21, 2010 8:44:05 PM

Thanks for all of the help.

It's a LiteOn PSU. And here's what it says:

Input: 100-127V
Output: +5V +12V === /19A Max
-12V === /0.8A Max
Combine Power On +5V

Combined Power On +5V & +3.3V Not exceed 175W max.
Combined Power On +12V & +5V Not exceed 268W max.
Continuous Total DC Output not to exceed 300W.

Let me know if there's anything else you need.

Thanks again.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
December 21, 2010 8:55:14 PM

Really are cutting it close,i would suggest getting a new PSU is you can afford it,would be good for future use.An athalon ii x4 is still somewhat new and will go a long way.
You can run it but not safely, in my opinion.
Defenitly don't do any overclocking if you are going to not upgrade your PSU.
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December 21, 2010 9:02:33 PM

IF youre taling aabout Cactlyism, the 5570 may not cut it.

I mean its a low-end game, but the 5570 is a very low end card.
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a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2010 9:11:22 PM

i r 1337 said:
IF youre taling aabout Cactlyism, the 5570 may not cut it.

I mean its a low-end game, but the 5570 is a very low end card.


Keep in mind we're talking about a 1600 x 900 resolution too. So they don't need anything super powerful. Not to mention, we're talking a budget built PC. It's not like they're going to stick a GTX 580 in this thing.
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a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2010 9:13:52 PM

Here's a good option for your, assuming you upgrade the GPU and power supply:

ATI 5670 1GB (Rear Exhaust) $89.99 - $20 MIR = $69.99 + Pay for Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec Basiq 430W $39.95 - $10 MIR = $29.95 + $1.99 Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 5670 would be faster than the 5570. After rebate it's about the same price as the XFX 5570 is.

The power supply is a cheap option that's still a quality piece. And it should be more than you need power wise. Which is always good as it means you don't push the PSU hard (lasts longer).
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a c 214 U Graphics card
December 21, 2010 9:18:54 PM

Like is said i have a 5570 and play at 1600x900 and you could play WoW on high settings but the 5670 is way better.

Really like that rear-exhaust version of the 5670,i would reccomend it.
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December 21, 2010 9:22:25 PM

jerreece said:
Here's a good option for your, assuming you upgrade the GPU and power supply:

ATI 5670 1GB (Rear Exhaust) $89.99 - $20 MIR = $69.99 + Pay for Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec Basiq 430W $39.95 - $10 MIR = $29.95 + $1.99 Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 5670 would be faster than the 5570. After rebate it's about the same price as the XFX 5570 is.

The power supply is a cheap option that's still a quality piece. And it should be more than you need power wise. Which is always good as it means you don't push the PSU hard (lasts longer).




Thanks for the help everyone. We're going to go with this option. I'd rather be safe and get a better PSU.
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a b U Graphics card
December 21, 2010 9:36:09 PM

That'll be a good way to go. She may not necessarily run the game at max settings, but it'll be a heck of a lot better than what's she's got now. :)  And the Antec power supplies are good quality. So you should be set to go with that end of things as well.
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December 21, 2010 9:40:46 PM

The simple answer? The cheapest one for this kind of entry level card. Save as much money as possible at that level.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
December 21, 2010 9:51:17 PM

Welcome,hope you have fun with that new card.

Goodluck
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a b α HP
December 22, 2010 12:39:40 PM

The 430W Antec Basiq is only mediocre; a 380W Earthwatts would be a more solid choice. You could run a HD5750 or HD5770 with that if you wished. On your existing PSU, a HD5670 is the highest safe choice.
I can tell you that the HIS IceQ4 coolers are effective and quiet.
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May 29, 2011 11:00:28 PM

Mainboard : FOXCONN 2AB1
Chipset : AMD 785G
Processor : AMD Phenom II X6 1045T @ 2200MHz
Physical Memory : 8192MB (4 x 2048 DDR3-SDRAM )
Video Card : AMD RADEON HD 6450
Hard Disk : Western Digital WD15 EARS-60MVWB0 SATA Disk Device (1500GB)
DVD-Rom Drive : Hewlett-Packard DVD RW AD-7251H5
Monitor Type : Hewlett Packard HP 2311 - 23 inches
Network Card : Ralink Technology RT3090 802.11n Wireless LAN Card
Network Card : Realtek Semiconductor RTL8101 PCIe Fast Ethernet Adapter
Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Home Edition Media Center 6.01.7601 Service Pack 1 (64-bit)
DirectX : Version 11.00
Windows Performance Index : 5.1 on 7.9
is this good enough for WOW cata ?
i have kinda low FPS in game when i set good resolution its like 10-15fps which is not possible for play ..when i use fair resolution then goes up to 45-55fps can u help me ...
thanks
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