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December 22, 2010 5:16:00 PM

I recently got into casual gaming on my pc. I bought some games and what sucked about it was that they all lagged at low settings. I just want to play most/all of the newer games. I'm willing to spend $300-$400 for anything that I might need.

My PC:
- AMD Athlon II X4 630
- 2.8Ghz
- ATI Radeon HD 4200
- System Bus 4000MHz
- 4Gb DDR3 SDRAM
- 750GB Hard Drive w/ Windows 7 64bit

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a c 595 U Graphics card
December 22, 2010 5:23:08 PM

At that price range, you can afford a GTX570 (~$350), or a HD6970 (~$370). You would also be happy with a HD6950 (~$300) or a GTX460 (~$200). All will be a very significant upgrade. I would look at adding some RAM as well, since Windows 7-64 bit can use more than 4Gb (maybe GTX460 + RAM for less than $400?)
December 22, 2010 5:27:06 PM

Ok thanks. I was also thinking about getting double the ram. would 8Gb be enough or do i need the 16Gb?
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a c 595 U Graphics card
December 22, 2010 5:31:35 PM

ivanlbc562 said:
Ok thanks. I was also thinking about getting double the ram. would 8Gb be enough or do i need the 16Gb?

8GB is a really nice spot for 64 bit Windows 7. In no way is 16GB even necessary. Most people probably are running with 6GB, but a little more is better.
December 22, 2010 5:32:23 PM

So, I don't need to buy nothing else? Just GTX570 or the HD6970 and switch it with my HD4200? Sorry for all the questions.
December 22, 2010 5:37:05 PM

One more thing, what type/kind is the video card? PCI Express, PCI, or AGP?
December 22, 2010 5:47:17 PM

I don't mean to be a party pooper but that athlon x4 needs to go most games take advantage of 2 cores your pretty much stuck with athlon x2 performance processor wise, I would get at least a Phenom II x2 that has the 6 Mb l3 cache but then again the more cores the better but make sure it's at least a phenom II processor.

Graphics card wise I would not go to a high end card unless you buy a high end processor.
Right now the GTX570 is around $350. If you do that I would at least get a Phenom II x4 @3.7 Ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

Something more in your price range is a GTX460 and a Phenom II x4 955 and both of these upgrades would be around $300.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4gig of ram you can get by with but you could throw in 4 more gig for @ $80.
This is a good overall rounded system for what you asked.
December 22, 2010 5:49:51 PM

I think we're all missing one big part of the puzzle here: CASUAL gaming. He doesn't need a blow-your-face-off GPU or CPU to do this. Get a GTX 460, save some money, and be a happy camper :D 
a c 595 U Graphics card
December 22, 2010 5:53:34 PM

Accolyte (and Psycho Teddy) is giving good advice, as I don't know very much about the performance of different Athlon CPU's. What he is saying is that the CPU may bottleneck your video card, preventing it from reaching the maximum frame rates of it's full potential. All of the cards that have been mentioned are PCIe (PCI Express).
December 22, 2010 5:58:14 PM

I want the GTX 580 with the Phenom II x4, can i do that?
December 22, 2010 6:00:48 PM

Sooo... theres like ASUS, EVGA, Galaxy, PNY, Zotac, and MSI. Which one is it? lol im so lost... sorry about that.
a c 595 U Graphics card
December 22, 2010 6:06:01 PM

ivanlbc562 said:
I want the GTX 580 with the Phenom II x4, can i do that?

The GTX570 is a better deal at $350. Although, as a GTX580 owner, I can't argue against you if you are willing to spend the money.
December 22, 2010 6:06:28 PM

Ok thanks, btw Im not paying for it :D 
December 22, 2010 6:09:40 PM

ivanlbc562 said:
Ok thanks, btw Im not paying for it :D 


What do you mean?
If you can go all out follow the $2000 build.
December 22, 2010 6:16:14 PM

Lol. I just got this computer... and I only have 1 room. I'm not a pro at this... I don't even know how to switch my graphics card. Youtube ftw
December 22, 2010 6:23:54 PM

Another thing that everyone seems to be missing is the PSU. He never listed what it was and it might not be big enough to support high end graphics.
December 22, 2010 6:27:34 PM

whats a PSU? lol
December 22, 2010 6:28:33 PM

ohh nevermind... let me check
December 22, 2010 6:29:48 PM

oh oh.. its 250 watts
December 22, 2010 6:37:24 PM

Definitely not enough to handle ANY graphics card that will be better than what you have. If you want to upgrade to a better Graphics Card, you should look into a 450-550 watt PSU depending on the card you choose. AMD cards tend to use less power than Nvidia. Corsair, Seasonic, and Antec are all good brands to choose from.
December 22, 2010 6:49:04 PM

OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W
ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V / 80+ / SLI / Crossfire / Core i7

Is this enough?
December 22, 2010 6:55:36 PM

Ok so far this is what I have:
-AMD Phenom II X4 940 3 Ghz
-OCZ 500W PSU
-GTX 570 Video Card
a c 595 U Graphics card
December 22, 2010 7:54:49 PM

ivanlbc562 said:
OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W
ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V / 80+ / SLI / Crossfire / Core i7

Is this enough?

To be on the safe side, I would go for 600 watts minimum, but 500 watts will cut it.
December 22, 2010 9:09:12 PM

500 would be enough with a quality CPU. I would still go for one of the brands i suggested earlier instead of an OCZ.
December 22, 2010 11:49:10 PM

Ohh ok. Yeah theres so many too choose from and I honestly didn't know which to choose. Thank you for recommending one. :hello: 
a c 595 U Graphics card
December 23, 2010 12:55:47 AM

Corsair.
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