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Rage: Performance Analysis On The PC

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October 21, 2011 5:07:43 AM

This is an instance of a company making a game for consoles and expecting it to work in PCs. This company will be abandoned by PC gamers, and it will settle in on the consoles. Eventually, they'll die off or change, just like the Red Faction series. This applies for the graphics and the quality of the game.
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October 21, 2011 5:14:43 AM

Piracy doesn't make the PC world very atractive. Thats the only reason why game developers turn away from the PC, they dont make money.
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October 21, 2011 5:18:14 AM

I believe there may be a typo, 6570 should be 6670 in the charts? I'm not sure though.
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October 21, 2011 5:28:45 AM

mmmm... poorly optimized console ports... does a body good.
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October 21, 2011 5:29:46 AM

crisan_tiberiu said:
Piracy doesn't make the PC world very atractive. Thats the only reason why game developers turn away from the PC, they dont make money.


Carmack said they make for the consoles is for money. You are mistaken if you think piracy is what drives developers away from the PC.
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October 21, 2011 5:33:47 AM

Any1 know why its running so bad on my PC. I have a Phenom X2 550 3.1 Ghz, and a HD 6950.According to this review, it should be able to run it fine but whenever im playing my CPU is at 100% and it runs choppy as hell. I've installed the new RAGE performance driver, as well as that 11.10 thing, neither helped. I added the cache folder for textures, still choppy. I am curious however, that since I have my Steam on my K drive and not on my C if that could be screwing with the cache, anyone know?
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October 21, 2011 5:43:47 AM

You missing that console games too are downloaded "illegal", don't think that only pc games are.
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October 21, 2011 6:03:04 AM

This game was a big "meh" for me. Hopefully they do a better job on the next game they make.
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October 21, 2011 6:24:34 AM

amazing!

a phenom dual core is enough.
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October 21, 2011 6:25:55 AM

MasterMaceThis company will be abandoned by PC gamers


You mean Bethesda? I've already broken up with my girlfriend so I don't have to make up illnesses when Skyrim comes out on 11.11.11

Or did you mean id Software? In which case you're right, they can go to hell.
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October 21, 2011 6:26:58 AM

amirpI believe there may be a typo, 6570 should be 6670 in the charts? I'm not sure though.


Nope, it's actually a Radeon 6570 GDDR5.

Think 6670 with lower clocks, performs close to the 5670. :) 
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October 21, 2011 7:12:42 AM

I like most of the mechanics of the game, like the little bit of RPG, driving, mixing into the FPS environment we all love.
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However, gameplay-wise, the ending is really bad, the progression was great before you enter the subway town (3rd / final town). Also, it seems like the headshots aren't very rewarding... You can empty a clip of "steel tip" AR rounds into a thug and he just walk it off like nothing... Invisibility frame maybe?? WingSticks are the way to go in harder difficulty... It is very confusing when you can't kill someone with two shotgun shells to the head... but obviously, a wingstick would just one hit ko him... The ending... really? It's like the author died and someone from another country picked it up and finished it... with two lines...
I played the PC version, and frankly, like a lot of modern games, it's like freaking unplayable... aim assists is always on, next to none (aka console graphics settings) available, and with the original release of the game... just try using the mouse in the menu... you will feel as if you just pirated the developer's pre-release version. It's somewhat like the BF3 beta...
BTW, it isn't that hard to get work arounds, like enabling consoles to fix some of the problems, but then you would lose the achievements...
I can't say all other games are release perfectly... but look at COD6, 7, Crysis, warhead, 2, and dragon age 2... They don't seem to have that much problem... IN COMPARISON WITH SinglePlayer EXPERIENCE...
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October 21, 2011 7:28:33 AM

AMD just released the 11.10 version 3 driver. Which one was used in this review?
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October 21, 2011 8:08:23 AM

I loved Fallout 3. This game is nowhere near as good. I've played for a few hours, and frankly it's just boring. I feel no desire to go back to it.
The only good thing about this game is that the engine, with a little tweaking and in the hands of someone competent, could be used to create something awesome.
Essentially, Rage is the same old boring rehash of several other FPS titles but with nothing especially memorable or interesting. At least Borderlands gave you solid multiplayer. And FO3 gave you great immersion, an actually open world, interesting characters, actual plot choices, the list could go on and on. Actually, comparing this to FO3 is like comparing a Snickers bar to a 6 course chef's tasting menu. Just not even in the same ballpark.
This game is utterly disappointing, and I will not be buying anything from ID again.
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October 21, 2011 8:34:35 AM

How about eyefinity and surround gaming? This game looks ripe for such a setup with the high quality background plus great performance tuning.
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October 21, 2011 8:49:10 AM

one more game that uses multiple cores and plays nice with lower end graphics cards \o/.
i wonder how much load was on the cpus and their cores during gameplay(core i5 vs core i3).
imo not all console ports are bad (gta: sa), but some are painfully bad (gta 3). rage seems to be one of the much better ones.
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October 21, 2011 8:52:27 AM

Anyone else notices all four cards exhibit similar uneven framerate/stutter in the video on page 3. Is this happening when you actually play the game or it only occurs after outputting to video?

Don, do yo have GPU Transcoding On in your CPU benchmarks (page 8)?
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October 21, 2011 9:13:32 AM

I think all these PC games being released half baked is one of the biggest factors with piracy. Why would you pay good money for something that doesn't work as it should? A few bugs here and there is absolutely understandable, but the last few games I have purchased Rage, NBA2K12, Deus Ex HR were not finished titles on release day. I am feeling like I should download, test, then purchase just to ensure I'm not getting ripped off.
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October 21, 2011 10:04:12 AM

FormataI think all these PC games being released half baked is one of the biggest factors with piracy. Why would you pay good money for something that doesn't work as it should? A few bugs here and there is absolutely understandable, but the last few games I have purchased Rage, NBA2K12, Deus Ex HR were not finished titles on release day. I am feeling like I should download, test, then purchase just to ensure I'm not getting ripped off.


I feel the same way - i don't feel good about downloading a game i respect, but i know it's a port then i'm not going to risk my cash on a half a job game.
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October 21, 2011 10:08:27 AM

de5_royi wonder how much load was on the cpus and their cores during gameplay(core i5 vs core i3).


Good question.

Regardless of how underwhelming the game might be for those people with multiple graphics cards and higher end processors, I can't help but smile when I think that my X3 710 and 4830 could handle this game.
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October 21, 2011 10:14:52 AM

Slight mistake on page 6 at the bottom:

All of the more expensive options (starting with the Radeon HD 5770 and GeForce GTX 550 Ti) achieve 60 FPS across the board, with minimum frame rates above 55.

The 5770 gets a minimum frame rate of 49fps, however whichever way you look at that, it's still rather impressive considering the 4xAA and high AF being employed.
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October 21, 2011 11:23:45 AM

The game itself felt boring to me. Im not saying it is boring, but a regular FPS nowdays seems 2 simple for me. I dont need as much of stuff as in fallout 3 to enjoy a game (in fact in fallout 3 many times i got tired of looking for something specific for a long time), but at least something like Stalker should be done here.

Weapons improvements seem to be part of the game main focus, so there is not really any "cool" benefit from changing stuff.

I loved that Weapon mooding in stalker. making choices of more sniper orientated or assault.

In doom3 (if you guys can remmber it) there was even less, but the kinda scary stuff, the fast non stop shooting and trying to conserve ammo for those bigger guys... was diffrent but made sence to me.

Its still a decent game, and graphicly it does give a bit better than a moded fallout 3, but in the end....
I would just say it dosent suck you in with either the story or the gameplay...
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October 21, 2011 11:43:23 AM

come on battlefield.... only.. a few... more days... need to know what graphics card... i need to buy for my vacation... review... review...
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October 21, 2011 12:32:32 PM

SirGCalhttp://media.bestofmicro.com/X/6/3 [...] 201920.pngThis image on page 'Max Detail, 4x AA' says 1920x1800, not 1080... FYI


Ohh, same on the following pages also...
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October 21, 2011 12:36:30 PM

Should have also compared CPU scaling results with a AMD card, since they won't GPU transcode.

Also, would've been nice to see some cpu scaling with clocks AND cores, like a phenom X2/X3 at 2/2.5/3.0 ghz, maybe even 1.5ghz to see how it behaves (if the x3@1.5ghz would beat the X2@2.0ghz).
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October 21, 2011 12:49:07 PM

Shouldn't the 550 Ti read 560 Ti instead?

Tom's, proof read yo s***
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October 21, 2011 12:51:06 PM

DooM 4 better be superior to Rage in every way.
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October 21, 2011 12:53:03 PM

Normally we can interpolate GPU performance if a specific one isn't used, but here I would have liked to have seen a HD6670 in the mix, as it's right in the range where performance seems to vary a lot; a couple of the high-end cards could have been sacrificed to make room. I'd also like to see some Fusion laptops thrown in on reviews like this, to at least see if they're "sufferable."
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October 21, 2011 12:57:16 PM

flclkunShouldn't the 550 Ti read 560 Ti instead?Tom's, proof read yo s***

No, 550Ti appears to be correct. Look where it falls in the order of performance. A 560Ti would be up near the top, certainly above the GTX460 and HD6850.
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October 21, 2011 1:11:20 PM

Why are you recording video on the same machine you use to play the game? For about $200 you can purchase an HDMI splitter and a Hauppauge Colussus capture card to run on a second computer.
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October 21, 2011 1:56:39 PM

I gotta say that I'm impressed that they could get that to run on dual core. You'd figure that even the 360 and PS3 have more CPU horsepower than a dual core Phenom X2 (how long has that been around?). Still, it looks really good considering there's, like, no overhead. haha
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October 21, 2011 2:18:00 PM

After making the most "high end" custom config file possible, this game ran smooth as butter on a single 5850 for me.
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October 21, 2011 2:31:31 PM

Can I download the benchmark? If I can then where?
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October 21, 2011 2:38:25 PM

Would a GTX 590 be able to run this game?
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October 21, 2011 2:41:21 PM

Th-z said:
Anyone else notices all four cards exhibit similar uneven framerate/stutter in the video on page 3. Is this happening when you actually play the game or it only occurs after outputting to video?


The stuttering is caused by the load caused by recording the video; with no video recording it's quite smooth.


Th-z said:
Don, do yo have GPU Transcoding On in your CPU benchmarks (page 8)?


Yes, although transcoding doesn't have an impact on frame rate, just the speed that textures theoretically are shown.
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October 21, 2011 2:44:44 PM

flclkun said:
Shouldn't the 550 Ti read 560 Ti instead?

Tom's, proof read yo s***


Um... no. Where were you when the GTX 550 Ti was released?

Looks like we're not the ones who need to check our facts. :) 
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October 21, 2011 2:45:34 PM

I was able to run this my old old 4 years to be exact 8800 ultra gpu that I keep on the side just in case for a dedicated physx card. I had sold my dual gtx 480s sc to upgrade to the hd 7970s.

I get smooth 60 fps @ 1680x1050 with max settings on hd textures on and 8x aa with vsync on to reduce screen tearing.
My old old 8800 ultra which is way more powerful than a console get better visuals. And better fps!
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October 21, 2011 2:59:19 PM

Cont....

The fps dips down by half to 30fps on 16x aa on the 8800 ultra to tell you this game is waq in terms of the visuals and I'm very disappointed.

Who's going to purchase doom 4? Not me lol ID RIP!


Now where's is that hd 7970, ill settle for a gtx 580 classified 1.5g when It shows. In time for some seroiuse gaming bf3 and skyrim. Did you guys see the new features in the new batman game for pc (dx 11 and physx)
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October 21, 2011 3:47:22 PM

Wow, this article misses the whole point of the game auto-tuning to hit 60fps. The benchmarks are useless except to tell what can't run the game well.

If a 460 and a 580 both hit 60fps, that doesn't mean that Rage doesn't take advantage of the 580. It means that on the 460, the game automatically scales down TONS of internal options for you.
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October 21, 2011 4:04:47 PM

When will we see another graphic-ground-breaking-futuristic game like Crysis? I still think it´s the best looking game out there, at least with some mods applied. It was launched in 2007, 4 years ago.
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October 21, 2011 4:18:06 PM

alandjacksonIf a 460 and a 580 both hit 60fps, that doesn't mean that Rage doesn't take advantage of the 580. It means that on the 460, the game automatically scales down TONS of internal options for you.


Not really.

First, it means the game has a 60 FPS limit.

Second, yes, the game is capable of scaling detail; but there's no detail to scale down once you have decent graphics hardware like a 5770 or 550 Ti. Our experience suggests this, and the video we took supports it.

You're assuming there's a lot more going on than there is. The game's designed for consoles, remember; there's no hidden features that a high-end card like the GTX 580 unlocks.
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October 21, 2011 4:18:40 PM

BadelhasWhen will we see another graphic-ground-breaking-futuristic game like Crysis?


Pretty soon... Battlefield 3 ;) 
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October 21, 2011 5:00:30 PM

I was hoping this title would be another incentive to hurry up my build. As it is, a stock Q6600 and 570 max it. I've already put a lot of time into FO3 and Borderlands... I can skip this one for now til its $10 on Steam.

Skyrim. BF3. Batman:AC. AC:Revelations. Please.
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October 21, 2011 5:13:42 PM

I get silky smooth gameplay with 2 Radeon 6950s in crossfire running at 5816x1080 (eyefinity). This is also with High texture settings, 8xAA, Max anisotropic filtering and V-Sync enabled. The framerate improvement was huge once I installed the AMD 11.10 Preview 3 with CAP 3.
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October 21, 2011 6:15:09 PM

They should have let some good gamers make the game, not the programmers, regardless how skillful they might be. Programmers want to make a game "realistic" with ever more fancy codes and graphics that rely heavily on cutting-edge hardware, while not realizing (!) the intrinsic contradiction of their behavior. id's games were fun during Doom era, but much less today; in these days, keep "shooting" at things is no more gaming per se, IMO.
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October 21, 2011 6:27:28 PM

I hated Fallout 3 but liked Rage a lot even though I had some driver issues. At least I have an Nvidia GPU instead of an AMD/ATI with their crappy drivers.
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October 21, 2011 6:44:36 PM

Anyone else notice it says 1920x1800?
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