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February 24, 2011 8:30:52 PM


Approximate Purchase Date: within next 4 months or so

Budget Range: 700 - 900 USD (After rebates)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Video editing, camtasia, sony vegas, audacity, maybe premiere pro eventually

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: sonata III maybe for case, like the discrete look. Also would love to use intel quick sync, might be willing to wait till z68 comes out but from what I understand I can use quick sync today as long as I don't overclock.

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1600x1200, 1680x1050 (either)

Additional Comments: As stable, quiet and low power consumption as possible.

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February 24, 2011 9:43:28 PM

Hello vigorvermin;

Four months out is about 14 weeks too early.
You budget should allow you to get a AMD Phenom X6 1100T Thuban CPU, a nice AM3 motherboard with 3.0 USB and 6GB/s SATA support,
8GB of RAM, a nice case and all the rest you need.

In 3 1/2 months you'll also have a choice of some of the Sandy Bridge CPUs & motherboards that should give that X6 1100 some serious competition in video editing.

Here is a benchmark comparison between the AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE vs Intel Core i7 2600K - 3.4GHz
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February 24, 2011 11:02:05 PM

From what I recall in the initial Tom's Sandy Bridge review, the i5-2500K actually keeps up with the 1090T in video tests. And it should blow it away once overclocked. At your budget, you could probably get the i7-2600K.

But come back closer to your build to get a fully detailed build. If you're ready to order, we'll give you links for what specials and deals exist at that time, or just tell you several excellent choices and you can wait for deals if you like.
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February 24, 2011 11:08:04 PM

GPU and CPU video transcoding:

I big article confirmed that adding a GPU can speed up video transcoding HOWEVER the only way to get the best possible QUALITY was using only a CPU approach. GPU video transcoding introduces issues.

That said, I recommend either onboard DX11 graphics or an inexpensive DX11 graphics card. $80 or less for an add-on board. Get DX11 for sure because the INTERNET will use the DX11 (info at IE9 site) but you don't need much GPU power.

Get either the HD6xxx series or GTX5xx series for add-on or similar for onboard.
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February 24, 2011 11:12:36 PM

Reference above:

I'd wait and get a GOOD graphics card when the software really makes use of it and doesn't introduce errors. I don't think it's worth the investment yet. I do video transcoding of BluRay->portable etc but I don't use the GPU. I'd rather take 2-3 times as long and get the best quality.
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February 25, 2011 3:56:24 AM

hey guys,

the computer is at most 4 months out but could be as early as 2 weeks from now. I just figured I might want to wait for the z68 mobo series.
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February 25, 2011 3:58:46 AM

I also read up on quick sync, saying it's faster and better quality then any GPU. However if I add in a discrete GPU it will opt to use that first. Hence the wait for z68, when this is fixed... I also read that a company fixed it on a current mobo series but it's not available to the public yet. Thoughts?
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February 25, 2011 4:07:20 AM

Since you aren't interested in overclocking there is the H67 and i5-2400 option.
That's viable as soon as the motherboards are back in stock.

You only need a Z68 if you also what to overclock a SandyBridge & use Quick Sync.
That's what I got from your link.
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February 25, 2011 4:47:35 AM
February 25, 2011 10:59:26 AM

It really depends: does your project size justify leveraging on Mercury Playback Engine?


A case for GPU computing: Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 and the Mercury Playback Engine
http://tech.icrontic.com/articles/reviews/a-case-for-gp...
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This project consists of compressed 640×480 video footage. These small video files were being eaten alive by the massive 1090T hexa-core processor and 8GB of RAM. Premiere Pro CS5′s increased performance with multi-core systems coupled with bleeding fast hardware will make fast work of any simple projects such as this, not giving the GPU enough work to really make a difference. These results do suggest that if you’re editing small-time video footage, you will not benefit much from using Mercury Playback.



If it does

1090T + Gigabyte 880G mATX $235
http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/AMDbundl...

Items off Egg $363AR

$598AR in total

else stick to 880G IGP ^^
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February 25, 2011 3:02:39 PM

I would love to take advantage of mercury, but in reality most of my work is going to be encoding / decoding stuff. I really think quick sync is the way to go, it'd be awesome to do both quick sync and mercury playback if I could.
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February 25, 2011 3:05:46 PM

also i dont think the 460 supports mercury
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February 26, 2011 2:09:06 PM

okay, so it sounds like the best way to go so far would be an h67 mobo, the i5 2400, and the 460 GPU 1GB ram. I'm tempted to wait on the GPU because throwing it in now would cause quick sync not to work.

maybe a raid 1 and scratch ssd would be good too?
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February 26, 2011 2:36:11 PM

The GPU and a scratch disk/SSD are all things that are very easy upgrades.

You can keep the initial cost down, get up and running, and let the performance you get give you guidance as to how much further you need/want to upgrade.

If project & data security is something you want to address maybe an external HDD with USB3 connection in place of RAID1.
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February 26, 2011 3:00:17 PM

raid1 would be sooooo much cheaper haha why external?
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February 26, 2011 3:03:30 PM

So you can lock up your valuable files (in a fire proof safe) after you backup your system.
If someone walks off with your computer you'd like to have your IP safe at least.
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February 26, 2011 9:28:07 PM

I've tried having an external backup system before and it would be so much easier for me if it just did it automatically without me having to worry about it. I'm not so much worried about theft. Let's go with the raid 1 solution and possibly add in external backup later in addition.
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February 26, 2011 10:15:02 PM

No problem adding a 2nd internal HDD and setting up RAID 0 in BIOS before OS installation.

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February 28, 2011 2:38:33 PM

will i need a raid controller or is that int. in the mobo?
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February 28, 2011 3:29:45 PM

The P8H67-M LX motherboard itself supports RAID 0,1,5 & 10.
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March 1, 2011 12:41:39 AM

thanks,

Is there a normal ATX model of that board? I'd prefer not to have to work with micro if I can help it.
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March 1, 2011 1:14:34 AM

P8H67 & P8H67-V would be the full size ATX boards.
You can get a side-by-side feature comparison (Compare Product) on the Asus website.

The Z86 was introduced at CeBit today.
Here's a picture.
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March 1, 2011 3:55:41 AM

haha wow that's way more expensive to go norm size motherboard. I might put up with the smaller size for an extra $100.

I don't know if I should wait for that or not. I wasn't planning on overclocking. But I do want a discrete GPU and the sandy proc in the same mobo.

Is Lucid's solution going to be z68 only? Also is it software or hardware?
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