thats what I am getting at, if 1 5970 isn't running in Crossfire, then 2 can't be running in quad, it would be dual. not trying to be argumentative, I'd just like to know if what I am saying makes sense or if I am out to lunch? correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Crossfire come out before dual GPU cards, if so the terminology is based on single GPU cards and therefore we can't use the same assumptions. if, one day in the future, we have a quad GPU card, you wouldn't call it quad Crossfire, would you? just like we don't say the 5970 by itself is crossfire, you need to add another card to make it crossfire, so then why does it jump to quad?