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$1500 left for gaming build and need confirmation. BUYING TOMORROW!

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February 25, 2011 4:46:35 AM

For those of you who have seen me post on a new build I'm not spamming but am seriously s*****ing bricks here. I'm getting my tax returns on Saturday which is tomorrow Eastern USA for me and is when I will be making the purchase. Again I would like to thank you ahead of time for those who have put up with me and for those who provide an input for this new builder.

Approximate Purchase Date: TOMORROW

Budget Range: $1500 left for the parts I do not have.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming - Crysis, Metro 2033, MMO (Aion, Rift, etc.)

Parts Not Required: OS Win 7 Ultimate, SSD Intel X25-M 160GB for OS, case HAF X, processor i7-960


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg

Parts in newegg shopping cart

EVGA 015-P3-1583-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) Black Ops Edition 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-950TX 950W ATX12V v2.3/EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-12GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Hydro H70 CWCH70 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Including the Microsoft X6 Sidewinder and Razer Molten edition, it all totals up to $1317.51.

If there are any compatibility issues that you can see please correct me so.

Gaming is probably the only thing this computer will ever see as HEAVY USE so if you guys think there is something too over kill in here then please save me some money but other than that if I see many GO AHEADS then I'll hit that purchase button right away.

THANKS TO EVERYONE IN TOMSHARDWARE!!!

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February 25, 2011 4:50:32 AM

Oh I also forgot to add that my storage HDD is a WD Caviar Black 1TB 64MB cache and 7200RPM
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February 25, 2011 4:51:02 AM

Hello jeffrey90;

Nice to have the i7-960 / HAF-X / OS and SSD already in the bag.

What are you using for a monitor?
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February 25, 2011 4:54:09 AM

Thanks WR2

I'm planning to get the Samsung PX2370
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February 25, 2011 4:56:15 AM

Nice choice of monitor - just a little on the expensive side of TN panels @ 23".
Planning on a multi-monitor display at some point?
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February 25, 2011 4:56:38 AM

Oh man also forgot to say that I'm getting the LG Blu-ray optical drive.

So with the Caviar Black HDD and optical drive it should come close to $1500 or little over.
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February 25, 2011 4:57:13 AM

Yeah sometime in the future a dual monitor setup.
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February 25, 2011 4:57:45 AM

Everything is looking good. Im just looking over the options in PSUs at around the same price and wattage. They're some pretty good options produced after the 950TX came out.
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February 25, 2011 4:58:37 AM

Savings is savings but I don't want to sacrifice quality. However your opinion weighs more than mine atm haha.
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February 25, 2011 5:07:16 AM

And I depend on the experts. First of all.. it's a freakin' 950TX. Pretty awesome price too. It did pull down a 9 performance score @ JonnyGuru
Reviews - Corsair TX950 950W
And lately we've seen PSUs hitting 9.5 and even 10.

I first checked to see if there was a new V2 out to match the CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850 V2 850W which pulled a 9.5 performance score out of JonnyGuru site.
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February 25, 2011 5:09:23 AM

Uh cool I guess haha but I'm guessing it's out of 10 so that sounds good.
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February 25, 2011 5:12:06 AM

Will my setup run on a 850W?
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February 25, 2011 5:17:17 AM

You probably already know that the Corsair 950TX is on the SLIzone list of certified PSUs for the 2x GTX 580s.

The difference between the 850HX (70Amps +12v) and 950TX (78Amps +12v) is narrow enough to say if the 950TX will .. the 850HX will as well.
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February 25, 2011 5:18:46 AM

I have no problem with choosing the 950TX over the 850HX.

They're both great PSUs. One tested a bit higher in quality/performance. The other had just a bit more power.
Now that you know... you gotta choose just one. Can't use both.
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February 25, 2011 5:18:53 AM

I also see that the 850HX is frieken modular WHICH IS AWESOME!! I thought I would never find a modular PSU! So if I go with the 850HX then I will be okay?
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February 25, 2011 5:21:35 AM

As is now... absolutely. Even with CPU OC'ing which i assumed seeing the Hydro 70

How much overclocking, case mod, upgrades do you see yourself doing?
Into extreme CPU and GPU overclocking?
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February 25, 2011 5:23:15 AM

Overclocking is such a gray area for me I would not know where to begin. But I will eventually learn, as of right now no plans. After I build this guy it'll be non stop use till I collapse, jk haha.
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February 25, 2011 5:27:09 AM

jeffrey90 said:
Reason for that RAM over the 12GB G Skill?

Unlike the Sandy Bridge builds, fast RAM helps on a high o/c in regards to the 1336 set up. CL6 vs CL9. Also if this is going to be a gaming rig... 6 gigs of triple channel ram is plenty.
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February 25, 2011 5:29:04 AM

What about if I play Flight Simulator or get into photoshop and editing which has recently peaked my interests. Is 6GB still enough?
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February 25, 2011 5:32:32 AM

In a system with an OC's i7-980X Extreme CPU and an extreme OC' on a couple GTX 580s pulled 859watts from the AC socket and about 773 watts DC from the PSU.

With just the CPU OC' and the factory OC'd GTX 580s without the extra OC that system pulled 694watts AC or 624 watts DC from the PSU.
That is well within the capability of the HX 850 - but that extreme overclocking shows how the power demand ramp up with extreme OC's.

edit;
link to BIG chart http://images.tweaktown.com/content/3/7/3784_42.png
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February 25, 2011 5:34:54 AM

FSX or Flight (due out this year hopefully) will be happy with 6GB

Photoshop will run REALLY well on 6GB but if you do a whole lot of Photoshop work you might want to think about adding RAM.
Of course adding RAM later is easy. You'll have a chance to run on 6GB and decide if you need more.
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February 25, 2011 5:35:01 AM

To be honest, if you have $1600 to spend, you should really wait until the GTX 590 and Radeon 6990 come out in a week or so.

You should also sell your i7-960 and get an i7-2600K. If you have the money to blow, what's the point in it being outperformed by a $1,000 build two months from now?

Also, what is your monitor setup? You should consider 3x 28" 1920x1200 screens from Tiger Direct.

I highly recommend you wait a week to build and ebay your i7-960. It'll probably fetch you enough to nearly buy the i7-2600K right out and then you've got a better build. 8GB of RAM is also the sweet spot price/longevity wise now.
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February 25, 2011 5:35:02 AM

WR2 said:
In a system with an OC's i7-980X Extreme CPU and an extreme OC' on a couple GTX 580s pulled 859watts from the AC socket and about 773 watts DC from the PSU.

With just the CPU OC' and the factory OC'd GTX 580s without the extra OC that system pulled 694watts AC or 624 watts DC from the PSU.
That is well within the capability of the HX 850 - but that extreme overclocking shows how the power demand ramp up with extreme OC's.

http://images.tweaktown.com/content/3/7/3784_42.png


Sorry WR2 but when I said gray area I meant it like right now where everything you just posted was like "in one ear and out the other"
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February 25, 2011 5:37:54 AM

The short version...
you'll have the option if you want to overclock to what the average gamer chooses.
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February 25, 2011 5:38:34 AM

dalauder said:
To be honest, if you have $1600 to spend, you should really wait until the GTX 590 and Radeon 6990 come out in a week or so.

You should also sell your i7-960 and get an i7-2600K. If you have the money to blow, what's the point in it being outperformed by a $1,000 build two months from now?

Also, what is your monitor setup? You should consider 3x 28" 1920x1200 screens from Tiger Direct.

I highly recommend you wait a week to build and ebay your i7-960. It'll probably fetch you enough to nearly buy the i7-2600K right out and then you've got a better build. 8GB of RAM is also the sweet spot price/longevity wise now.


OH MAN. Sorry dalauder but this build has been waiting for nearly a year and yes I know that there will always be something better but just to let you know I got the processor for $85 from intel because I work for a retailer and in June they will probably sell the Sandy Bridge series which I will most likely get for the upgrade. So as of right now I think I'll be going with the build.
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February 25, 2011 5:39:40 AM

Quite frankly, you should get the 950W PSU. 950W gives you the headroom to run two monster cards and overclock. And what's the point of awesomeness if it isn't overclocked? And I'm guessing an extra $25 doesn't make or break anything for your budget. It's worth an extra $20 on each component ($100 total) to make sure it's all absolutely amazing 2 years from now.

Overclocking with an unlocked processor like the i7-2600K or i5-2500K can be learned and achieve a great deal of success in a couple hours if you know where to look. When the time comes and you're interested in it, just come by these forums and we'll link you to some excellent guides. With graphics, it can often give a 12% boost or so and with a lot of CPUs it can give 25% boosts or more.
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February 25, 2011 5:39:59 AM

WR2 said:
The short version...
you'll have the option if you want to overclock to what the average gamer chooses.



When I do decide take on over clocking I will WR2 because of the benefits. Thanks

Aside from that, based on what you see with the parts, motherboard and all, are they all compatible?
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February 25, 2011 5:40:48 AM

You can always Ebay the whole system.
After you've had a chance to enjoy it a few months ;) 

Since you built it with quality parts you might find a non-builder to get you a really good price.
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February 25, 2011 5:41:47 AM

dalauder said:
Quite frankly, you should get the 950W PSU. 950W gives you the headroom to run two monster cards and overclock. And what's the point of awesomeness if it isn't overclocked? And I'm guessing an extra $25 doesn't make or break anything for your budget. It's worth an extra $20 on each component ($100 total) to make sure it's all absolutely amazing 2 years from now.

Overclocking with an unlocked processor like the i7-2600K or i5-2500K can be learned and achieve a great deal of success in a couple hours if you know where to look. When the time comes and you're interested in it, just come by these forums and we'll link you to some excellent guides. With graphics, it can often give a 12% boost or so and with a lot of CPUs it can give 25% boosts or more.



That totally makes sense and I just remembered the only reason I wanted a modular power supply was for cable management but the HAF X has so much room for that. Alright back to the 950. Thanks dalauder
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February 25, 2011 5:42:23 AM

100% compatible and high quality.

Interesting in looking at the forum building guide?
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February 25, 2011 5:43:23 AM

WR2 said:
You can always Ebay the whole system.
After you've had a chance to enjoy it a few months ;) 

Since you built it with quality parts you might find a non-builder to get you a really good price.



So let's say I do plan to sell it in the summer. This is a $1800 - $2000 after my discounts which should have been worth nearly $3000 with the software. How much would someone buy this for?
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February 25, 2011 5:44:35 AM

WR2 said:
100% compatible and high quality.

Interesting in looking at the forum building guide?


That was more than enough for me. Thanks a bunch man. If you got anymore suggestions my clock has a little under 24 hours and counting. HAHA :bounce: 
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February 25, 2011 5:45:44 AM

Oh, well if you're getting SB in June for cheap, then go for it!

I await you selling parts in the Classified section in the future.

But I still think you should wait to see the GTX 590 and 6990.
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February 25, 2011 5:46:41 AM

If he doesn't hang out in the THG forums to get advice on what to buy and he's looking over the pre-built gaming system on the top custom build sites like Falcon Northwest...
You could get your money back.
Realistically you could ' test build' a similar system like on CyberPowerPC website and subtract 10-15% to find something I think would be in the ballpark.
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February 25, 2011 5:47:57 AM

dalauder said:
Oh, well if you're getting SB in June for cheap, then go for it!

I await you selling parts in the Classified section in the future.

But I still think you should wait to see the GTX 590 and 6990.


I'm not doubting you dalauder, what you're saying totally makes sense but again I've been waiting patiently for this and worked my butt off 1 whole year for this build. Maybe next build.
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February 25, 2011 5:49:00 AM

Be sure to let us know how things work out.

Here is a Step-by-Step Guide to Building a PC

Look over the forum's "System won't boot" checklist to see some of the common build errors and how to avoid them.

-> The usual advice; read the manual / install guide; look at the parts, read the manual again and if everything makes sense and looks right - then go ahead with the install.
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February 25, 2011 5:49:51 AM

WR2 said:
If he doesn't hang out in the THG forums to get advice on what to buy and he's looking over the pre-built gaming system on the top custom build sites like Falcon Northwest...
You could get your money back.
Realistically you could ' test build' a similar system like on CyberPowerPC website and subtract 10-15% to find something I think would be in the ballpark.


So I would probably be still making money. Even if it's only a little.
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February 25, 2011 5:50:56 AM

WR2 said:
Be sure to let us know how things work out.

Here is a Step-by-Step Guide to Building a PC

Look over the forum's "System won't boot" checklist to see some of the common build errors and how to avoid them.

-> The usual advice; read the manual / install guide; look at the parts, read the manual again and if everything makes sense and looks right - then go ahead with the install.


Yeah thanks a lot. I also got a friend coming over who just finished building his. Hope it all works thanks WR2
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February 25, 2011 5:53:39 AM

Odd are stacked in your favor. Those are great parts choices.
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February 25, 2011 5:56:08 AM

Haha. Oh and Hell Yeah I'll be posting pictures up and keep everyone informed. I'm probably doing the Newegg standard 3 day shipping so I will probably get it this tuesday or wednesday.
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February 25, 2011 5:57:16 AM

Pictures and build experience stories are always appreciated.
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February 25, 2011 2:46:49 PM

1. If you are not going to SLI, 950 is way over sized. With twin cards in SLI, if you overclocking, you'll want to move up to Corsair's 1st tier PSU's, the AX or HX series in order to maintain the most stable voltages when OC'ing. Alternates would include the CP-1000 but that would require a move to the DF-85 case (which I personally prefer from a builders standpoint over the HAF-X) or the Antec HCP series.....anything 9.5, preferably 10.0 on jonnyguru.com

2. Read this before buying the H70

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

3. Since you have the budget room, consider upgrading from CAS 9 to CAS 6

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you do big OC's (like 200 BCLK) you may have to drop to CAS 7 with 6 modules but that's still better than CAS 9. However, I'd recommend you do a BCLK of 160 (4 GHz) as per instructions here:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=2008122019104023...

I think you will be able to maintain CAS 6 at 160.
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February 26, 2011 12:35:08 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
1. If you are not going to SLI, 950 is way over sized. With twin cards in SLI, if you overclocking, you'll want to move up to Corsair's 1st tier PSU's, the AX or HX series in order to maintain the most stable voltages when OC'ing. Alternates would include the CP-1000 but that would require a move to the DF-85 case (which I personally prefer from a builders standpoint over the HAF-X) or the Antec HCP series.....anything 9.5, preferably 10.0 on jonnyguru.com

2. Read this before buying the H70

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

3. Since you have the budget room, consider upgrading from CAS 9 to CAS 6

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you do big OC's (like 200 BCLK) you may have to drop to CAS 7 with 6 modules but that's still better than CAS 9. However, I'd recommend you do a BCLK of 160 (4 GHz) as per instructions here:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=2008122019104023...

I think you will be able to maintain CAS 6 at 160.


1. I already have the HAF X and fell in love with it :D  . As far as the PSU, I will probably SLI in the future and give my brother this build when I finish making another for SB.

2. I don't understand what you are suggesting after I read the article. (sorry for not being able to understand)

3. 6 gigs over the 12 gigs of G Skill?

4. IDK what you wrote about after 3. :pt1cable: 

Thanks man.
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February 26, 2011 12:56:49 AM

2. I think he was suggesting the Antec Kuhler was just a smidgen better or that the air coolers held their own and actually perform better in some tests.
We are down to splitting hairs here - they're all good.

3. A higher performance set of RAM. Lower latency is good, & more expensive & optional. I think the suggestion is also that 6GB is plenty for even high performance gaming.

4. More extreme OC'ing. Related to #3 also.
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February 26, 2011 12:57:34 AM

Hey! It IS tomorrow. Had you ordered already?
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February 26, 2011 1:02:38 AM

HAHA WR2 no not yet. I posted this topic today (Friday) remember? It was at around 1:46AM. So tomorrow is Saturday. But then again Saturday is 2 hrs away and if the tax returns get deposited into my account then I will order it right away.

As far as the #3 portion I would most definitely agree that 6GB is enough. From day to day tasks and just gaming I will most likely never see 12GB ever being fully used.

So now that's out of the way. Should I really go for 6GB at cas 6? And if yes are these good and compatible?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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