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February 25, 2011 7:46:21 AM

Howdy :D 

guys i'm planning to get a new PC, for my personal usage, i find a great things but i dont know if there are over from what i need actually i dont want to i dont want to waste my money for numbers only :p , but even i still plan to overclock it :ange:  i don't know much staff about PC i did my homework in a few sites such as cpubenchmark.net and google ofcourse before i put what i got from my researching i'll give a brief of my using:


CPU:
number in the middle are the marks of the CPU
Intel Core i7-2600K @ 3.40GHz....9,308 ....$328.00*
Intel Core i7-2600 @ 3.40GHz....8,951 ....$299.99*
Intel Core i5-2500K @ 3.30GHz....6,769 ....$228.99*
Intel Core i7 960 @ 3.20GHz....6,677 ....$309.99*
Intel Core i7 950 @ 3.07GHz....6,348 ....$288.99*
Intel Core i7 930 @ 2.80GHz....5,831 ....$274.99*
Intel Core i5-2500 @ 3.30GHz....6,515 ....$209.99**
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T....6,293 ....$239.99*
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T....6,045 ....$199.99*

CPU MARK (OVERCLOCKED)
Intel Core i7-2600K @ 3.40GHz....11,244 ....$328.00*
Intel Core i7-2600 @ 3.40GHz....10,196 ....$299.99*
Intel Core i5-2500K @ 3.30GHz....8,743 ....$228.99*
Intel Core i7 960 @ 3.20GHz....8,038 ....$309.99*
Intel Core i7 950 @ 3.07GHz....8,006 ....$288.99*
Intel Core i7 930 @ 2.80GHz....7,691 ....$274.99*
Intel Core i5-2500 @ 3.30GHz....7,602 ....$209.99**
Intel Core i7 950....3.06GHz....$261.50
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T....7,352 ....$239.99*
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T....7,267 ....$199.99*

motherbaord:
ASUS Rampage III Formula $300

VGA Card:
I'll need VGA Card for only watching HD movies, and some very simple games "nothing hard", (i'll mention the monitor), also do think this is more of what i need?
Radeon HD 6870 $249
MSI GeForce GTX 560 1 GB DDR5 $249.99
Radeon HD 6850 $179.99

HDD:
I only need SSD with 60GB for the OS Win7
Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC064MAG-1G1 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $125
OCZ Vertex 2 Series 60 GB Internal hard drive - 300 MBps $98

I'll need another HDD for the other data, and i think 1T is enough:
Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB Bulk/OEM Hard Drive 3.5 Inch, 32 MB Cache, 7200 RPM SATA II WD1001FALS $87.99


RAMS:
KingSton 2GBx2 1333mhz CL9
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 CL8 Triple Channel Kit

power supply:
HEC Zephyr MX 750-Watt 80 Plus SLI Power Supply ZEPHYRMX750 $70


DVD/CD:
Lite-On LightScribe 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive IHAS424-98 - Retail (Black)


screen:
the only monitor in my mind is
Samsung SyncMaster BX2331 - 23" LED

Case:
NZXT Hades $99
thermaltake dokker case $90

Cooling staff:
I only got these two:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
Cooler Master V8
Corsair Hydro Series H70

P.S. i put some links in some part so it would be helpful for any one got curious or interested hopefully this not against the forum rules

any suggestions are highly & most welcome

Wish you all luck

Thanks !

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February 25, 2011 8:30:45 AM

Alright, good job at finding some parts to get you started. Just a warning, but we're gonna tear your build down and give you a new one.

What we need to know is what you want to use the computer for and how much do you want to spend?
February 25, 2011 8:41:56 AM

Also, when you get around to overclocking, be careful not to use too high of voltages. Look up manufacturer voltage and temperature limits before you start and monitor temps. If you leave everything on Auto, it can overvoltage components if you do a high overclock so you'll want to manually set voltages in that case.
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February 25, 2011 10:24:59 AM

dalauder said:
Alright, good job at finding some parts to get you started. Just a warning, but we're gonna tear your build down and give you a new one.

What we need to know is what you want to use the computer for and how much do you want to spend?

thanks its an awesome for someone like me :p 

about my using well:
first of al i dont turn off my PC i dont know why but it hate to start the PC every time (lazy :p )
internet browsing (browsers are really eating the resources like hell !!)
watching HD movies
ofcourse MS OFFICE (outlook run all the time, and the rest whenever they are needed)
downloading "downloading freak" (torrent,IDM also runs all the time)
i dont know, but i'm using wifi network i hate cables, should i get wireless card?
i do NOT do gaming until now, maybe i'll change my mind after i get the new PC :p 

and about my budget its around 1200-1300MAX

about the overclocking i wasn't aware of that but I'm sure i'll not do it with out seeking a help cause i've no idea about it :D 

really thanks
February 26, 2011 11:17:42 AM

is it true that there is no motherboards for "Intel i5 2500k"?

and please help any one? :( 
February 28, 2011 5:09:53 AM

Sorry, I accidentally closed this thread. You are correct, it is VERY difficult to find a motherboard for an i5-2500k (socket LGA 1155). But if you wait two weeks, it will be easy enough.

First things first--get Google Chrome or Mozilla Firefox. I prefer Chrome. I've heard Opera's good.

I haven't checked prices today, but this will get you in at under $1,000.

CPU: $230 i5-2500K
Mobo: $150 TBD (get ATX, P67, NOT H67, and two PCI-e slots running at 8x/8x instead of 16x/4x)
RAM: $100 any 8GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 (or faster)
HDD: $60 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
SSD: (optional) $200 upgrade by adding a solid state drive sometime. Start a thread, because I don't know which ones are best
Case: $60 Antec 300 Illusion
DVD: $19 Any DVD burner
PSU: $120 750W (or 850W since you have the dough) Corsair, Antec, Season, Silverstone, or XFX
Graphics: $250+ Any Radeon HD 6950 2GB. Or $350 gets you a GeForce GTX 570.

Also, you could build a $500-600 computer that satisfies all your needs.
February 28, 2011 10:23:47 AM

dalauder said:
Sorry, I accidentally closed this thread. You are correct, it is VERY difficult to find a motherboard for an i5-2500k (socket LGA 1155). But if you wait two weeks, it will be easy enough.

First things first--get Google Chrome or Mozilla Firefox. I prefer Chrome. I've heard Opera's good.

I haven't checked prices today, but this will get you in at under $1,000.

CPU: $230 i5-2500K
Mobo: $150 TBD (get ATX, P67, NOT H67, and two PCI-e slots running at 8x/8x instead of 16x/4x)
RAM: $100 any 8GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 (or faster)
HDD: $60 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
SSD: (optional) $200 upgrade by adding a solid state drive sometime. Start a thread, because I don't know which ones are best
Case: $60 Antec 300 Illusion
DVD: $19 Any DVD burner
PSU: $120 750W (or 850W since you have the dough) Corsair, Antec, Season, Silverstone, or XFX
Graphics: $250+ Any Radeon HD 6950 2GB. Or $350 gets you a GeForce GTX 570.

Also, you could build a $500-600 computer that satisfies all your needs.

dont worry its ok

about the P67 i heard about a few and many agrees it'll need a heatsink setup :( 

also does it support SLI? i dont want to sacrifice CrossFire/SLI, however for my usage (watching HD 1080p and 3D movies)

so i'm looking for VGA Card supporting HD Audio Bitstream such as nVidia GTS 430 or nVidia GTS 460 GDDR5, both have HDMI 1.4a port which its supports DTS MASTR,DTS HD and DOLPY TRU, please have a look to this link "click here" and "here"

also about the cooling stuff:
do you guys have any suggestions? i mention "Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus, Cooler Master V8 and Corsair Hydro Series H70", any opinion?

Thanks for your help dalauder
February 28, 2011 11:16:34 AM

i'd get the 212+

also, the HD6xxx and GTX5xx series cards already suggested handle audio bitstreaming
February 28, 2011 12:09:14 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
i'd get the 212+

also, the HD6xxx and GTX5xx series cards already suggested handle audio bitstreaming

thanks i think i'll go with 212+ as u suggested

about the VGA don't you think that GT430 can provide me my needs with saving almost $180?

but the sad news is GT430 doesn't support SLI :(  a big lost for the future :( 

or maybe GTS 450 with Free Performance Boost +39MHz Overclock to 822MHz the good news is it does support SLI and its for $120

<< confused between the choices :pt1cable: 
February 28, 2011 12:40:43 PM

the 450 will work great for HTPC options. PAlit even makes a low-profile version to fit in smaller cases
February 28, 2011 1:38:06 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
the 450 will work great for HTPC options. PAlit even makes a low-profile version to fit in smaller cases

no its not HTPC, but will it work for me?

I don't mind large case i only care for performance
February 28, 2011 5:46:32 PM

if you're only watching movies, browsing the web, and doing flash games. you'll only need the onboard graphics, and won't need a GPU at all
March 1, 2011 2:12:05 AM

Like I said, you could meet ALL of your needs with a $500 computer. And you'd have a much better computer most of the time if you put that extra $500 towards a new computer two years from now. That aside, you want to spend a $1000 and I gave you the best way to do it.

You absolutely DO NOT need an aftermarket CPU cooler/heatsink until you get into overclocking. You can buy one though. The Hyper 212+ is supposedly great. I'd buy one more for appearance though so long as it got good reviews. Then again, I like ostentatious computer parts more than most people.

If you want a low end graphics card that's good for movies and bad at games (which doesn't justify a $1000 build once again), then get a Radeon 5670. It outperforms a GTX 470 on video. Or a Radeon 5750 if you want the best on video (http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/hqv-2-radeon-geforce,revi...). The 5750 will also play all games (although most new ones on medium settings only).

The motherboard I selected is SLI/Crossfire compatible. But don't worry about that because you don't play games.

You'll also want to downgrade to a 520W PSU (Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, Sivlerstone, or XFX) since you don't use high end graphics cards. That can handle two 5770's, I think.
March 1, 2011 7:11:59 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
if you're only watching movies, browsing the web, and doing flash games. you'll only need the onboard graphics, and won't need a GPU at all

well but I'd rather to get options in the future, if you suggest the i don't need GPU, would you recommend the "Intel Core i7-2600K" instead of "i5-2500K", or i5-2500k is better than "i7-2600k" in graphics? does i7-2006k part of "sandy bridge" family? :D 
dalauder said:
Like I said, you could meet ALL of your needs with a $500 computer. And you'd have a much better computer most of the time if you put that extra $500 towards a new computer two years from now. That aside, you want to spend a $1000 and I gave you the best way to do it.

You absolutely DO NOT need an aftermarket CPU cooler/heatsink until you get into overclocking. You can buy one though. The Hyper 212+ is supposedly great. I'd buy one more for appearance though so long as it got good reviews. Then again, I like ostentatious computer parts more than most people.

If you want a low end graphics card that's good for movies and bad at games (which doesn't justify a $1000 build once again), then get a Radeon 5670. It outperforms a GTX 470 on video. Or a Radeon 5750 if you want the best on video (http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/hqv-2-radeon-geforce,revi...). The 5750 will also play all games (although most new ones on medium settings only).

The motherboard I selected is SLI/Crossfire compatible. But don't worry about that because you don't play games.

You'll also want to downgrade to a 520W PSU (Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, Sivlerstone, or XFX) since you don't use high end graphics cards. That can handle two 5770's, I think.

indeed I'm planning to overclock :$

I think I'll delay the idea of buying GPU for now IF whats onboard is enough for my usage

while i'm gone save a few $$ & cause of motherboard issue with i5-2500, i start thinking of i7-2600k, should i start consider about it?
March 1, 2011 9:05:57 PM

ok, if you want to use the onboard -- and for your usage, the onboard of the 2500K or 2600K is fine -- you can't also overclock until the release of the Z68 boards later this spring. I'd suggest getting one of those boards.
March 1, 2011 10:13:31 PM

Until the Z68 chipset comes out (in May/June), the i5-2500K and i7-2600K cannot use their identical integrated graphics (Intel HD 3000) with an overclocking chipset. Only the H67 chipset allows use of integrated graphics. Only the P67 allows overclocking, currently. The i7-2600K and i5-2500K are both Sandy Bridge and the i7-2600K is complete overkill for your purposes (although you may notice a difference in 3-4 years).

It's basically a chipset debacle in my opinion--the best integrated graphics of Sandy Bridge is on the CPUs that require the P67 chipset for overclocking--so the integrated graphics are unusable.

If you don't want to wait and don't care about the money, just get an i5-2500K with a Radeon graphics card. You can even go cheaper than the 5670 if you like and get excellent HD video performance. I have a Radeon 4550 I could sell you for $30 (not an excellent price, but not bad) that would almost certainly meet your graphics needs. Although, I'd want to do a little research to double check that.

I still think you should be doing a Phenom II x4 955BE build (perfect for overclocking) with a motherboard with integrated graphics. Also, if you skip the graphics, your i5-2500K build is only an $800 build--so you'll have to find a way to spend another $200. Maybe a solid state drive? I think one of those would be pretty fun.
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