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February 25, 2011 10:23:18 PM

Hi Guys,

I'm trying to put together a decent non-overclocked build and stay at a reasonable price point. I haven't built a computer in many years so any suggestions would be very greatly appreciated. Here's what I am thinking so far.

Approximate Purchase Date: This week

Budget Range: 600-800 after rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, surfing, perhaps some web design and photo editing

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: Best price/performance

Overclocking: no

SLI or Crossfire: No


Case: NZXT Gamma
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo: ASRock 890 FX Deluxe4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Phenom II X4 955 Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: XFX Radeon HD 5670 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...
or?
Saphire Radeon HD 5770 1GB at +$20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Corsair Builder Series 500W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

RAM: Crucial 4GB DDR3 1066
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

HD: WD Caviar Blue 500GB 7200RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

Windows 7 home premium

Like I said it has been a long time and in truth I am pretty ignorant to hardware needs and compatibility at this point so is there anywhere I am just wasting money here or could get better products for less? This build comes out to about $730 right now.

Thank you,
Bodie

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February 25, 2011 11:14:18 PM

Ok thanks, looks much better this way
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
February 25, 2011 11:22:42 PM

Resolution?

Just from looking at it a few changes.

Motherboard: Asrock Extreme3 770 75$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
That motherboard is good enough for you, you don't OC and you don't CF. But you'll have the future proof of SATA III and USB 3.
Power supply: Antec Neo Eco 520w 40$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Better PSU, lower price. Good efficiency.
Memory: Not a big issue, but this is just 2$ more and better. Solid brand too. DDR3 1333, instead of 1066. Not that it matters a bunch.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500gb 40$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Faster and same price. The .12 is a great revision actually, most cases as good as the F3.
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February 25, 2011 11:51:11 PM

Thank you for the suggestions I like all of them except on the Barracuda it looks like a lot of people have been getting bad drives lately on the newegg reviews. Also as far as resolution I'm not sure I will most likely be using an older 17in CRT which handles fairly high resolution but might also go to my new plasma 1080p TV sometimes. From what I've been reading it seems like I should be spending a bit more on a GPU what is a good pairing with the Phenom II X4 955?
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
February 26, 2011 1:53:41 AM

If you use your plasma you probably want something like a 6850 or 460 1GB. Those two would be more than enough for your CRT monitor. If you use your TV alot, you should check out this combo. 6870+955.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

A 5770, 6850 or 460 1GB would be good enough for your CRT monitor, even the 460 768mb. The 6870 might be overkill for it, but it would be recommended for your 1080P TV.

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February 26, 2011 5:35:53 AM

aznshinobi said:
If you use your plasma you probably want something like a 6850 or 460 1GB. Those two would be more than enough for your CRT monitor. If you use your TV alot, you should check out this combo. 6870+955.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

A 5770, 6850 or 460 1GB would be good enough for your CRT monitor, even the 460 768mb. The 6870 might be overkill for it, but it would be recommended for your 1080P TV.

I hate those who scorn at the 768mb version of the 460. It saves people $50 compared to the 1gb.. which is significant when the cards are $110 (768mb) and $160 (1gb)..

Honestly, theres no visible difference in fps (upto 5% difference) which can't warrant an upgrade in the graphics settings nor increase the fps by any distinguishable amount.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$108 AR. Same price as the 5770 and it literally blows i/t out of the F***ing water :) 

Furthermore anoboshi, the $42 ram you quoted, xms3 by corsair with 1333MHZ is beaten by this $40 xms3 ram by corsair with 1600MHZ. Free, $2 less upgrade..

However, this kingston ram takes the cake, $50 and only $25 After mail in rebates, and with a $5 promo code. $20 for 1600MHZ kingston ram.
BUY NOW!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$5 off w/ promo code EMCKHHH42, ends 2/28
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
February 26, 2011 6:23:07 AM

That's a good deal vibhas. Just be sure to note that my name isn't "anoboshi". Also what corsair ram are you talking about that is 40$? There is no kit below that kit I listed from Corsair that is 40$ for 4gb (2x2gb).

I don't scorn the 768mb.
Lowest price 460 768mb: 147$
Lowest price 460 1gb: 160$
Where is the 50$? Your talking about?
Even after rebate.
Lowest price 460 768mb AR: 110$
Lowest price 460 1gb AR: 140$


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February 26, 2011 6:50:22 AM

aznshinobi said:
That's a good deal vibhas. Just be sure to note that my name isn't "anoboshi". Also what corsair ram are you talking about that is 40$? There is no kit below that kit I listed from Corsair that is 40$ for 4gb (2x2gb).

I don't scorn the 768mb.
Lowest price 460 768mb: 147$
Lowest price 460 1gb: 160$
Where is the 50$? Your talking about?
Even after rebate.
Lowest price 460 768mb AR: 110$
Lowest price 460 1gb AR: 140$

Here is the $40 ram (AR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Sorry bout the name, i read a book and misplaced your name.

Cheapest 768: $108
But i can't find any 1GB 460 on newegg for $140.
The cheapest i found is $150 'open box' and $155 'rectified' and those aren't fair. So its your turn to post the link for the 1gb version of the 460.

But it doesn't really matter - Whether $30, 40 or 50 or 100 more the 768mb version is clearly superior in terms of price/performance. For the additional 20-50% cost you get 4% more performance @ 1080P so.......

As opposed to a 130~% (Additional card, higher rated PSU etc etc) additional cost for 85% more (SLI)
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February 26, 2011 7:02:57 AM

Best answer selected by BodieRyan.
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a b B Homebuilt system
February 26, 2011 1:41:57 PM

.12 Seagate keeps up with Samsung F3? I didn't know that...I'll have to look up some benchmarks. After the .11 firmware debacle, I just figured to stay clear of Seagates for a year or two.
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February 26, 2011 9:10:13 PM

aznshinobi said:
This topic is done. But for your info. Check prices better please?

160$ as I said before rebate. 140$ AR.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

7200.12 1TB review: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2009/04/13/sea...

Idk why that says F1 1tb, Well as you can see not the same HDD. But I guess fairly close. That's what most HDDs are as of late.

Aznshinobi that's not right mate.
That's a low blow... the 1GB SE model which is clearly worse than any other 460 model - The 768mb version AND the normal 1GB version easily outclass it. That 460SE is close to the 450GTS model in performance.

I did indeed check prices well - Anyone can tell you the 460SE is a bad terrible version of the card, especially given its price point. The $50 difference + stands (Actually $60+ if not 67~) as the 460SE is basically a different card almost!
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
February 28, 2011 4:55:48 AM

^ I do realize the 2 platters the F3 has, but I didn't realize they made a F1.
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a b B Homebuilt system
February 28, 2011 5:18:26 AM

Yeah, it was the last version from 2008 that got outperformed by the newer drives. I did a good deal of research into the Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB drives before I bought 3 for RAID 5 last August. It was $58 on Newegg--so I bought 3. I'd been planning on a single 2TB drive, but they were going for $130 at that point.

Now my short stroked 300GB RAID 0 with RAID 5 on the remaining space screams--425MB/s on HDTach across the entire 300GB and over 2GB/s Burst speed!
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
February 28, 2011 11:09:56 PM

^ Yeah, I was thinking about doing a RAID 0 setup for F3's (or "F5" [just making up a series] for the SATA III revision of the F3's). But I thought about it, and I just decided that if I do that, might as well do a 60gb SSD boot and just a 1TB for the rest of the stuff :p  Even with those awesome benches, RAID 0 HDDs still don't boot as fast as a single SSD.
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a b B Homebuilt system
March 1, 2011 2:19:08 AM

Hmmm...close. I haven't timed my bootup, but I lose 4 seconds initializing the RAID array. I get 425MB/s in HDTach on my 300GB (3x100GB) RAID 0 with the F3's.

SATA III is pretty pointless with conventional HDDs. I guess WD Caviar Blacks do it just because they can sell a couple extra to people thinking it's better?
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 1, 2011 2:24:28 AM

^ I see many people buy WD Blacks purely off the name "Western Digital" When they are getting ripped about 20-30$ in most cases. (The base being the Samsung F3's)
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