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May 28, 2011 2:38:21 PM

Hey guys,

This is my first custom build with 700 USD budget, and I am not if this is the correct/sufficient power supply unit. On top of that, I am unsure what the purpose of a Power Supply besides the fact that it powers the PC components.

This is my expected build:

ASUS 6790 1GB DDR5 DC

ASUS M4A87T or ASUS M4A87TD

AMD Phenom II X4 965 (Black Edition)

Kingston 4GB RAM DDR3 - 1333

Western Digital 1TB

ASUS DVD

600W Power Supply

Lastly I was wondering if this is a decent and compatible build for internet, photos, photoshop, gaming, music, HD movies, and working.

Thanks for the assistance!

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May 28, 2011 5:24:32 PM

any good brand psu would be great eg XFX, Corsair, Antec, Seasonic.

What is your budget?
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May 28, 2011 5:40:39 PM

ghnader hsmithot said:
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Recommended Power Supply

Here is Guru3D's power supply recommendation on the Radeon HD 6800 series:

Radeon HD 6790 - On your average system the card requires you to have a 450 Watt power supply unit.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6790-review/6



Hey!

My budget is 700USD or 4500 RMB since I am currently situated in China for a few months.

I am also wondering if there is a difference between the Radeon HD 6790 and the ASUS 6790 since it somewhat different EAH6790 DC/2DI2S/1GD5:

http://www.asus.com.cn/Graphics_Cards/AMD_Series/EAH679...

The reason why I am asking is because I had consulted a salesman who said the 600W would be required since the CPU, and GFX card would draw a lot of power.
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May 28, 2011 5:41:37 PM

Liquid_015 said:
Hey!

My budget is 700USD or 4500 RMB since I am currently situated in China for a few months.

I am also wondering if there is a difference between the Radeon HD 6790 and the ASUS 6790 since it somewhat different EAH6790 DC/2DI2S/1GD5:

http://www.asus.com.cn/Graphics_Cards/AMD_Series/EAH679...

The reason why I am asking is because I had consulted a salesman who said the 600W would be required since the CPU, and GFX card would draw a lot of power.

I am also in China for a while.Which part are you in?
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May 28, 2011 5:43:09 PM

Liquid_015 said:
Hey!

My budget is 700USD or 4500 RMB since I am currently situated in China for a few months.

I am also wondering if there is a difference between the Radeon HD 6790 and the ASUS 6790 since it somewhat different EAH6790 DC/2DI2S/1GD5:

http://www.asus.com.cn/Graphics_Cards/AMD_Series/EAH679...

The reason why I am asking is because I had consulted a salesman who said the 600W would be required since the CPU, and GFX card would draw a lot of power.

And no there is no difference.Its just an Asus branding scheme.
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May 28, 2011 5:43:17 PM

I am situated in Shanghai right now
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May 28, 2011 5:45:00 PM

Liquid_015 said:
I am situated in Shanghai right now

I live in Baoshan district, Shanghai.
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May 28, 2011 5:48:05 PM

Oh wow. Although I have no idea where that is, its quite fascinating that we live in the same "city". The salesman is charging me 1200RMB for the 6790, and I think I am being "ripped off" given that there is no difference between the ASUS 6790 and the HD Radeon.
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May 28, 2011 5:56:39 PM

Meh. From what the salesmen said he stated that there is 3 years warranty; however, I do not know how true that statement is. I mean this is literally my first time building a computer from the ground up. On another note, if I have a 600W PSU "recommended" by the salesmen would that be sufficient for the other components? I mean having more is usually better because in a sense it is more "expandable".
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May 28, 2011 5:57:27 PM

How would this compare to a GTX 460?
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a b ) Power supply
May 28, 2011 6:05:12 PM

Liquid_015 said:
Meh. From what the salesmen said he stated that there is 3 years warranty; however, I do not know how true that statement is. I mean this is literally my first time building a computer from the ground up. On another note, if I have a 600W PSU "recommended" by the salesmen would that be sufficient for the other components? I mean having more is usually better because in a sense it is more "expandable".

I would not at all accept anything "Recommended" by a salesman especially in Shanghai.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6790-bart...

Hope you would choose me as best answer and if there is anything i can help about Shanghai best places to eat and or drink PM me.
Here is the review which is compared to gtx460
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6790-bart...

Here are some samples of gaming performance:






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May 28, 2011 6:08:14 PM

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May 28, 2011 6:09:43 PM

So in which part of Shanghai do you live?
And could you tell me your budget and if you want to upgrade that way i can really help you with your build.
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May 28, 2011 6:10:30 PM

Hmmm, ok. Thanks a lot, the specs I posted above were the "recommended" components given my budget. Argh, now I cannot decide wether or not to pull the trigger and purchase what they have recommended.
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May 28, 2011 6:12:00 PM

alright i will give you my opinion.
Is this a gaming pc or do you do other things?
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May 28, 2011 6:12:25 PM

ghnader hsmithot said:
So in which part of Shanghai do you live?
And could you tell me your budget and if you want to upgrade that way i can really help you with your build.



I'm willing to spend 4500~ RMB which is the equivalent to 700USD. However, I would like be below the 4500 RMB mark so 700 and below. I live in the Pudong Area.
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May 28, 2011 6:14:59 PM

ghnader hsmithot said:
alright i will give you my opinion.
Is this a gaming pc or do you do other things?


I'm building this for experience because it is something that has always interest me, and with this desktop I will be surfing the internet, light gaming, gaming, occasional photoshop work, 1080P playback, listening to music, and Microsoft word and whatnot.

Games that I would play:

Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, Portal 2, Mass Effect 2, GTA4, Batman: AA, Call of Duty, and other genres of games.
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May 28, 2011 6:31:36 PM

Liquid_015 said:
I'm building this for experience because it is something that has always interest me, and with this desktop I will be surfing the internet, light gaming, gaming, occasional photoshop work, 1080P playback, listening to music, and Microsoft word and whatnot.

Games that I would play:

Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, Portal 2, Mass Effect 2, GTA4, Batman: AA, Call of Duty, and other genres of games.

you might first have to signup for newegg China

ok my recommendations are:
AMD 超威 羿龙II(Phenom II X4)
http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/19-c32-126.htm


HIS 希仕 H679F1GD 1GB 256bit GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/A19-09K-2FS.htm


Hyperx DDR3-1600 4G
http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/A15-034-1M5.htm

Caviar Blue 500G
http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/22-c05-238.htm

CoolerMaster 酷冷至尊 RC-430-KWN1
http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/11-c09-682.htm


Corsair 海盗船 DDR3 1600 4G
http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/25-c09-076.htm

OCZ MODXSTREAM系列 OCZ700MXSP
http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/77-c26-006.htm

As for mobo i am not sure yet.Do you want to Overclock?
I took too long, sorry for that.I had to look carefully.
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May 29, 2011 1:57:39 AM

ghnader hsmithot said:
Motherboards for my recommendation are:
Great mobo= 880G Extreme3

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/13-c18-149.htm

budget mobo=Asrock 华擎 770DE3L Socket AM3
http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/13-c18-197.htm

If you have other issues you can contact me via pm.
I would try my best to help you!



Hey!

Thanks man, its alright. I'll definitely look into your recommendations :D  Thanks! I will definitely PM you if anything comes up.

I found the ASUS Mobo and I was wondering if this was alright:

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/13-c09-308.htm

On another note, I did not know that there was a NewEgg China, so is this the China branch of the NewEgg where the parts are shipped in China?
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May 29, 2011 2:45:14 AM

Liquid_015 said:
Hey!

Thanks man, its alright. I'll definitely look into your recommendations :D  Thanks! I will definitely PM you if anything comes up.

I found the ASUS Mobo and I was wondering if this was alright:

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/13-c09-308.htm

On another note, I did not know that there was a NewEgg China, so is this the China branch of the NewEgg where the parts are shipped in China?

There are always better recommendations than mine.If there is a a better deal then dont hesistate to jump for it.Make sure all parts are compatible.
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May 29, 2011 3:10:33 PM

ghnader hsmithot said:
There are always better recommendations than mine.If there is a a better deal then dont hesistate to jump for it.Make sure all parts are compatible.



Hey,

A quick question. According to the U.S Newegg the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition includes a heatsink and a fan. On the contrary, the China Newegg does not included a heatsink and a fan and they are the exact same model. And yet, what is strange is that when I saw the same processor at the Computer Center in Pudong, the lady said the Phenom II X4 965 has a heatsink and fan included. I am confused as to which product is correct?

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/19-c32-126.htm

EDIT:

This is what I am considering most of which is based on your recommendations:

CoolerMaster RC-P100-RKN1-GP:

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/11-c09-674.htm

OR

CoolerMaster RC-430-KWN1 430:

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/11-c09-682.htm

ASUS M4A87TD Socket AM3 AMD 870 ATX Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/13-c09-308.htm

Kingston DDR3 1333 2GB Kingston Desktop Memory (Narrow Version) x2

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/25-c02-115.htm

WD Caviar Blue 500Gb 7200RPM:

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/22-c05-238.htm


OR

Hitachi 1TB 7200 32MB SATA 3.0Gb / s 3.5-inch desktop drive

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/22-c07-267.htm

AMD Phenom II (Phenom II X4) quad-core processor 965 - 3.4GHz/Socket AM3/6MB three cache Black Edition

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/19-c32-126.htm


As for thw GFX and PSU I am still checking it out. What is the significance of a PSU and how is this build?




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May 29, 2011 4:25:21 PM

Liquid_015 said:
Hey,

A quick question. According to the U.S Newegg the AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition includes a heatsink and a fan. On the contrary, the China Newegg does not included a heatsink and a fan and they are the exact same model. And yet, what is strange is that when I saw the same processor at the Computer Center in Pudong, the lady said the Phenom II X4 965 has a heatsink and fan included. I am confused as to which product is correct?

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/19-c32-126.htm

the hsf is included, in all boxed amd cpus.
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May 29, 2011 4:26:48 PM

ghnader hsmithot said:
the hsf is included, in all boxed amd cpus.



AWESOME! Looks like I am almost set and ready to purchase!

This is what I am considering most of which is based on your recommendations:

CoolerMaster RC-P100-RKN1-GP:

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/11-c09-674.htm

OR

CoolerMaster RC-430-KWN1 430:

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/11-c09-682.htm

ASUS M4A87TD Socket AM3 AMD 870 ATX Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/13-c09-308.htm

Kingston DDR3 1333 2GB Kingston Desktop Memory (Narrow Version) x2

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/25-c02-115.htm

WD Caviar Blue 500Gb 7200RPM:

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/22-c05-238.htm


OR

Hitachi 1TB 7200 32MB SATA 3.0Gb / s 3.5-inch desktop drive

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/22-c07-267.htm

AMD Phenom II (Phenom II X4) quad-core processor 965 - 3.4GHz/Socket AM3/6MB three cache Black Edition

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/19-c32-126.htm


As for thw GFX and PSU I am still checking it out. What is the significance of a PSU and how is this build?
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a b ) Power supply
May 29, 2011 4:33:06 PM

the psu is very significant because it powers all your hardware.Tell me your budget for the psu.Only the big brands have good circuit design and protection so please choose the psu properly.
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May 29, 2011 4:46:16 PM

ghnader hsmithot said:
the psu is very significant because it powers all your hardware.Tell me your budget for the psu.Only the big brands have good circuit design and protection so please choose the psu properly.



After adding all the components together from the list above my total is around 3420 plus or minus 10 RMB, excluded: DVD -R/W and PSU Unit. My total budget is 4500 RMB equivalent to 700USD. Truth be told, I am unsure what the difference is between power supplies and the wattages between each units.

Thanks!
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a b ) Power supply
May 29, 2011 4:50:11 PM

well its a bit hard to explain, but i still could recommend to you a good psu then i can give you a link to the review.And from the list you havent yet to choose your gpu.Without your gpu its not possible to give you a recommendation for a psu.

Some gpu's can take up 200w and for a recommendation we would give you around 600w.

And i think you might not want to ATI crossfire?Do you?
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May 29, 2011 4:50:48 PM

ghnader hsmithot said:
http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/A01-137-0NF.htm
if you wanted you could buy the i5 2500k its the best budget cpu of all.It is priced at 1799rmb and normally the board would go for around 800.It is really performance at the finest level.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-2500k-and-core-i7...

And only p67 with z68 mobos would allow for overclocking and these cpus really are good at OC.


I'm not too certain because this is my first build and I do not plan on OverClocking just yet. As of now, I'm trying to gather experience and not go "all out" on this computer at the same time I would love a "Future proof" computer using the AMD. From what I was told the AMD is a good CPU for the least amount of money as of now.

Given my budget as of now, it is possible to upgrade my GFX card from the 6790.
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a b ) Power supply
May 29, 2011 4:51:50 PM

However what i am afraid is that you might have to use a Chinese manual when working with your brand new hardware.YOu could go to the manufacturers website and download an English or your own native language manual.
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May 29, 2011 4:54:12 PM

ghnader hsmithot said:
well its a bit hard to explain, but i still could recommend to you a good psu then i can give you a link to the review.And from the list you havent yet to choose your gpu.Without your gpu its not possible to give you a recommendation for a psu.

Some gpu's can take up 200w and for a recommendation we would give you around 600w.

And i think you might not want to ATI crossfire?Do you?



I know I sound like a total "noob" here because I have not payed enough attention to the "Crossfire" or "Xfinity" to know what the significance between the two.

As of now, I might consider going with HD Radeon 6790:

HIS XSISHI:

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/A19-09K-2FS.htm

OR

Platinum Sapphire Sapphire HD6790 1G 256bit GDDR5:

http://www.newegg.com.cn/Product/A19-175-2FY.htm


Damn! I was afraid of the manual being in Chinese cause I cannot read Chinese characters unfortunately! -__-'
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May 29, 2011 4:54:26 PM

Liquid_015 said:
I'm not too certain because this is my first build and I do not plan on OverClocking just yet. As of now, I'm trying to gather experience and not go "all out" on this computer at the same time I would love a "Future proof" computer using the AMD. From what I was told the AMD is a good CPU for the least amount of money as of now.

Given my budget as of now, it is possible to upgrade my GFX card from the 6790.

No AMD doesnt give you future proofness sorry.But since its your first build you could go for AMD since its cheaper, however am3 socket stops at phenom II X6.It supports nothing any higher.

With 1155 supporting Ivy bridge a new cpu architecture.Which is considered by Intel to have a 20% increase in performance than Sandy bridge.
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May 29, 2011 4:56:26 PM

i would recommend amd because its cheaper however there is almost no upgrade path and that am3+ boards do not actually support am3 cpus officially.Only one does but i dont remember.
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May 29, 2011 4:57:24 PM

ghnader hsmithot said:
No AMD doesnt give you future proofness sorry.But since its your first build you could go for AMD since its cheaper, however am3 socket stops at phenom II X6.It supports nothing any higher.

With 1155 supporting Ivy bridge a new cpu architecture.Which is considered by Intel to have a 20% increase in performance than Sandy bridge.



Meh, its alright. Once I acquire more experience in the computing world I will definitely consider Intel's upcoming Ivy Bridge chipset bound to come next year.

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May 29, 2011 4:59:35 PM

if you have really decided your mobo then i can link to you the english manual.No worries about the manual.
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May 29, 2011 5:04:45 PM

ghnader hsmithot said:
if you have really decided your mobo then i can link to you the english manual.No worries about the manual.


Awesome, you are the MAN!

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm sticking with the ASUS M4A87TD Mobo should be compatible with the AMD CPU I have.

As of the GFX I'll most likely stick with the HD Radeon 6790. Though some say I should invest in a GTX 460 with 768MB.

In the end, its all come down to the PSU :( (

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a b ) Power supply
May 29, 2011 5:07:27 PM

but it also depends if you want to crossfire or not.
If you do then you might need to in advance buy a higher power psu. with a good mobo.

I am sure you know crossfire technology right?
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May 29, 2011 5:10:03 PM

ghnader hsmithot said:
but it also depends if you want to crossfire or not.
If you do then you might need to in advance buy a higher power psu. with a good mobo.

I am sure you know crossfire technology right?



Hmmm, truth be told I really don't know because I don't know if I am going to game a whole lot on this custom built PC. But let's assume I would like CF enabled. This may sound stupid but if the 6790 has CF enabled but the MOBO I currently have does not support CF, the GFX card will simply not enable CF, and will it deter its performance in general?

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May 29, 2011 5:17:15 PM

Liquid_015 said:
Hmmm, truth be told I really don't know because I don't know if I am going to game a whole lot on this custom built PC. But let's assume I would like CF enabled. This may sound stupid but if the 6790 has CF enabled but the MOBO I currently have does not support CF, the GFX card will simply not enable CF, and will it deter its performance in general?

All modern gpus except for some workstation gpus can crossfire.Crossfire is a multi gpu setup that allows you to use

ATI CrossFire is the ultimate multi-GPU performance gaming platform. Enabling game-dominating power, ATI CrossFireX technology enables two or more discrete graphics processors to work together to improve system performance. For The Ultimate Visual Experienc, be sure to select ATI CrossFireX ready motherboards for AMD and Intel processors and multiple ATI RadeonHD graphics cards.

http://game.amd.com/us-en/crossfirex_about.aspx
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a b ) Power supply
May 29, 2011 5:18:22 PM

If you arent gaming then you dont have to buy a dedicated gpu.You could just use onboard gpu.
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May 29, 2011 5:20:37 PM

ghnader hsmithot said:
If you arent gaming then you dont have to buy a dedicated gpu.You could just use onboard gpu.


I most likely will be gaming, for the most part but not for extremely long hours. So, it would be safe to assume that the ASUS M4A87TD Mobo is not Crossfire ready?
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May 29, 2011 5:23:40 PM

yes the asus M4A87TD is Not cf supported.
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May 29, 2011 5:27:46 PM

ghnader hsmithot said:
yes the asus M4A87TD is Not cf supported.


Argh! Hmm, I tried looking on Newegg but there are hardly any Mobos that are CF ready. I'm curious but how can one determine which mobos are CF ready?

Which mobo would you personally recommend for an AMD processor?

Once again, thanks :D 
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May 29, 2011 5:47:06 PM

Liquid_015 said:
Argh! Hmm, I tried looking on Newegg but there are hardly any Mobos that are CF ready. I'm curious but how can one determine which mobos are CF ready?

Which mobo would you personally recommend for an AMD processor?

Once again, thanks :D 

I will talk to you tomorrow afternoon.Any problems dont be afraid to post them here.Or you could make a new thread and choose me as your best answer.
:D 
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May 30, 2011 2:24:35 AM

ghnader hsmithot said:
I will talk to you tomorrow afternoon.Any problems dont be afraid to post them here.Or you could make a new thread and choose me as your best answer.
:D 



The Mobo is quite good, if not better than the original Mobo I chose. I will be back later tonight but as of now what would be a decent/sufficient PSU with CrossFire enabled because from what I recalled Crossfire requires quite a lot of power.

Thanks man :D 
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