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February 26, 2011 10:23:26 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: in the next few days

Budget Range: around $1400

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, internet

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com only

Country of Origin: US

Parts Preferences: AMD CPU, just 500gbs of storage needed, might throw in a 64gb ssd

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: Probably, later, two 580's

Additional Comments: should be pretty quiet (not a vacuum cleaner) but this isn't a priority

This is what I have so far (need motherboard help [will probably SLI later and would like USB 3.0]):

Processor
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Thuban 3.3GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
GeForce GTX 580
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD
x2 (one for backup) Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case
NZXT Phantom
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold Series ATX SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total so far (without mobo, cpu cooler, or ssd): $1,190

More about : 1400 gaming build

February 26, 2011 10:37:37 PM

Hi, replace the power supply with something like:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... as it is bigger + much higher quality! (Corsair/antec/seasonic is the best, but seasonic is very expensive so antec/corsair is the best price/perf).

Also, 2 580's bottleneck every processor around, especially a 6 core AMD processor. I'd really have to recommend an i5 760 or an i7 950 if not a sandy bridge processor.

Also, you should know that an AMD processor with an SLI setup (Nvidia cards) requires terrible nforce motherboards.. These totally suck ****. Any build above $1200~ should definitely have an intel processor, and for gaming the best AMD processor anyways is a 965BE... which still is worse than an i5 750 (For gaming).

Secondly, replace the HDD's with this :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$5 more each, but 500GB more AND its faster ... Caviar black is overpriced and slower.
Memory:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1600MHZ ram 4gb for $20. Buy 2 sets TODAY and it'll be $40 for 8GB of DDR3 1600MHZ ram. Thats a saving of $30 compared to that xms3 1333MHZ ram.
Basically a 40% saving and an upgrade.

The GTX 580 is fine.. but really expensive. Perhaps 2 570s bought now would be better?
February 26, 2011 10:59:08 PM

vibhas said:
Hi, replace the power supply with something like:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... as it is bigger + much higher quality! (Corsair/antec/seasonic is the best, but seasonic is very expensive so antec/corsair is the best price/perf).

Also, 2 580's bottleneck every processor around, especially a 6 core AMD processor. I'd really have to recommend an i5 760 or an i7 950 if not a sandy bridge processor.

Also, you should know that an AMD processor with an SLI setup (Nvidia cards) requires terrible nforce motherboards.. These totally suck ****. Any build above $1200~ should definitely have an intel processor, and for gaming the best AMD processor anyways is a 965BE... which still is worse than an i5 750 (For gaming).

Secondly, replace the HDD's with this :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$5 more each, but 500GB more AND its faster ... Caviar black is overpriced and slower.
Memory:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1600MHZ ram 4gb for $20. Buy 2 sets TODAY and it'll be $40 for 8GB of DDR3 1600MHZ ram. Thats a saving of $30 compared to that xms3 1333MHZ ram.
Basically a 40% saving and an upgrade.

The GTX 580 is fine.. but really expensive. Perhaps 2 570s bought now would be better?


Good to know about the processor - I will switch to Intel. Also thanks for the PSU suggestion, I'll change that as well

I know that the 1tb HDD is cheaper but one of the 500gbs was going to be used as a backup. If I got a 1tb HDD (too big anyways) then I would need another one for backup as well, right?

As for the RAM... you said "Buy 2 sets TODAY and it'll be $40 for 8GB of DDR3 1600MHZ ram" but that 4gb is $50 each so it is $100, not $40. The reason I thought 2 x 4gb would be good is that in a few years I could just stick in 2 more sticks and bamn 16gbs ram. 4 x 2gbs would make that much harder.

Any specific mobo suggestions or Intel CPU suggestions?

EDIT: Looking at this CPU now (Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz Quad-Core) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... do you think two 580's would bottleneck it?
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February 27, 2011 1:03:24 AM

anyone have any suggestions? :) 
a b B Homebuilt system
February 27, 2011 1:26:16 AM

Wait for SB to be re-released the procs are here but the mobos are coming in a couple weeks, the i7 2600K would probably be what you go for at that budget
February 27, 2011 4:26:52 AM

joelmartinez said:
Wait for SB to be re-released the procs are here but the mobos are coming in a couple weeks, the i7 2600K would probably be what you go for at that budget


It looks like I will be waiting. Question though, what mobos are people using that have posted reviews for sandy bridge processors?
February 27, 2011 10:47:46 AM

Search for Asus p8p67 deluxe or pro!
a b B Homebuilt system
February 27, 2011 3:36:32 PM

spend extra cash on GPU(s)
February 27, 2011 5:30:00 PM

joelmartinez said:
NO, the best SB mobo for price/performance is the asrock p67 extreme 4 it overclocks extremely well and is cheaper than Asus options.

review-> http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1098/pg1/asrock-e...


and so that could easily SLI two 580's? and do you have a specific CPU recommendation?
a b B Homebuilt system
February 27, 2011 5:32:29 PM

Yes it will SLI fine, and if you go for dual 580s you probably should go for the i5 2500K, it can overclock enough to were it won't be a bottleneck. 4.2ghz is considered a low overclock on sandy bridge
February 27, 2011 9:44:17 PM

Do you already have Windows 7?

I would hold off on a SSD right now - next-gen ones are coming out within the next few months, no reason you couldn't save a few hundred for one of those at that time.

You can pick up the SB processors now but not a MB for it yet. You won't notice (maybe a 1% increase) in real gaming performance between the i7-2600k and the i5-2500k once you overclock - so I'd go with the $230 i5-2500k unless you want the best you can get with the $330 i7-2600k. You might want an after-market cooler for it - Intel shipped topend coolers with their SB processors to all the reviewers and then they ship POS ones to all the consumers - you don't get the same cooler the reviewers used.

What you could do is make a frame-work top-end system and fill in the parts (2nd 580, SSD) at a later date. If so, I'd recommend picking up this case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... It's the best non-water-cooling case (with noise reduction features in it) available. They've got a version with a side-panel window too for the same price. I don't even know if you'd need an after-market cooler for the processor with this case.



a b B Homebuilt system
February 27, 2011 11:37:05 PM

sathoro said:
anyone have any suggestions? :) 


Wait 2 weeks for the SB B3 stepping boards to be released

Case - $100 - Antec DF-35 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $120 - XFX Black Edition 850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $390 - ASUS P8P67 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl above - Intel Core i5-2500K
RAM - $100 - (2 x 4GB) Corsair CAS 9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $315 - EVGA GTX 570 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $315 Same
HD - $65 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $22 - Asus 24X DRW-24B3L w/ LS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Total $1427

If ya wanna OC past 4.5 GHz, spend another $45

Cooler - - Scythe SCMG 2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Alternates:

Cases - For mid tower, consider a HAF-922 (+$10) but the DF's Fleet Swap bays are really growing on me. One thing I like is when beuilding a peep a new box where an SSD or 2nd HD is a "later upgrade", I can install all the cables, tie them up w/ swing ties and when the extra storage gets added, you just take outta the package and slide in .... no cables to attach. For full tower, the DF-85 is my 1st choice (+60) followed by the HAF-X (+90)

Any PSU comparable (HX850, CP-850, SG-850) to the Black (10.0 performance rating @ jonnyguru.com) is gonna cost quite a bit more.

MoBo - If ya want something a little "tuffer" consider the Sabertooth P67 TUF w/ militarized components and 5 year warranty.
March 6, 2011 5:25:18 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
Wait 2 weeks for the SB B3 stepping boards to be released

Case - $100 - Antec DF-35 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $120 - XFX Black Edition 850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $390 - ASUS P8P67 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl above - Intel Core i5-2500K
RAM - $100 - (2 x 4GB) Corsair CAS 9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $315 - EVGA GTX 570 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $315 Same
HD - $65 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $22 - Asus 24X DRW-24B3L w/ LS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Total $1427

If ya wanna OC past 4.5 GHz, spend another $45

Cooler - - Scythe SCMG 2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Alternates:

Cases - For mid tower, consider a HAF-922 (+$10) but the DF's Fleet Swap bays are really growing on me. One thing I like is when beuilding a peep a new box where an SSD or 2nd HD is a "later upgrade", I can install all the cables, tie them up w/ swing ties and when the extra storage gets added, you just take outta the package and slide in .... no cables to attach. For full tower, the DF-85 is my 1st choice (+60) followed by the HAF-X (+90)

Any PSU comparable (HX850, CP-850, SG-850) to the Black (10.0 performance rating @ jonnyguru.com) is gonna cost quite a bit more.

MoBo - If ya want something a little "tuffer" consider the Sabertooth P67 TUF w/ militarized components and 5 year warranty.


Thanks man that looks like a great build - I did more research on the 570 and it is amazing how similar it is to the 580 performance wise.

Any more news on the SB boards? I'm having a hard time getting information about them, mainly because I don't really know what to look for. I'd like to order it this week are there good boards to buy now?
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