Trade in 9GB for 24GB? Worth it?

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Last year I put in more than double my previous RAM. I was able to match it nearly exactly. For full details click here.

So I currently have 9gb of OCZ Platinum DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) RAM. My MOBO specs said up to 12GB of RAM. The ASUS site says up to 24GB of RAM. :heink: A bit of reading on their forums said that the board will support 24GB of ram as long as it is 1333.

Ok, so now RAM is dirt cheap, but my options are listed here.
Keeping in mind 1333 only will work. So I have two options G-Skill Rip Jaw or Patriot...

I do really like my OCZ and 9GB seems to be enough. I am a graphic designer and do some video work as well. I really noticed the increase when I went to 9GB. So, would going to 24GB be worth it considering it is only $100 or so.

Mind you I'd be going from:
1333 7-7-7-20 @ 1.65V 9GB
to
1333 9-9-9-24 @ 1.65V 24GB

Also I trusted OCZ as a brand, but they went to making only SSDs. I've never had either of the brands I'm looking at.

The alternative is to purchase a newer mobo... that's not happening this year. When it does it'd be retiring this system to my children. They can't wait, but they'll have to a while longer.
 
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Well I'm still around ;)

Yeah, I too did a lot of upgrading myself on my X58's in my case most are 12GB (3x4GB and some 6x2GB). All I've been getting lately are 4GB/stick.

If your files are huge then sure 24GB or 6x4GB will work, heck I've seen some X58's with 6x8GB which is double the rated density capacity.

Any of those 24GB kit will work, and you can use the PV7324G1600ELHK DDR3-1600 if you wanted to set it in the BIOS, and by default all of those kits are going to run DDR3-1066 until you set it otherwise in the BIOS. The DDR3-1333 vs DDR3-1600 will shave-off ~10 minutes on a ~2 hour render. Obviously, I can post the BIOS settings for you. Further, the PV7324G1600ELHK probably can run DDR3-1333 CAS 8-8-8-24.
Well I'm still around ;)

Yeah, I too did a lot of upgrading myself on my X58's in my case most are 12GB (3x4GB and some 6x2GB). All I've been getting lately are 4GB/stick.

If your files are huge then sure 24GB or 6x4GB will work, heck I've seen some X58's with 6x8GB which is double the rated density capacity.

Any of those 24GB kit will work, and you can use the PV7324G1600ELHK DDR3-1600 if you wanted to set it in the BIOS, and by default all of those kits are going to run DDR3-1066 until you set it otherwise in the BIOS. The DDR3-1333 vs DDR3-1600 will shave-off ~10 minutes on a ~2 hour render. Obviously, I can post the BIOS settings for you. Further, the PV7324G1600ELHK probably can run DDR3-1333 CAS 8-8-8-24.
 
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Glad to see you're still around! Always helpful you are.

Should I be at all concerned that Patriot lists the max of my mobo as 12GB?
http://patriotmemory.com/configurator/morepartsp.jsp

Corsair says 24gb and lists the sticks from Newegg as one of the models to use.
http://www2.corsair.com/configurator/product_results.aspx?id=717938

I'd rather save the $30 and get the PV7324G1600ELHK if all things considered they are about equal.

It'll be about 2 weeks or so before I have them in hand, but BIOS settings would be great.
 
The only limit that needs to be 'noticed' are those of the MOBO and CPU, I see errors on RAM sites all of the time:
Intel Core i7 920 (24GB) - http://ark.intel.com/products/37147/Intel-Core-i7-920-Processor-(8M-Cache-2_66-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI)
ASUS P6T Deluxe (24GB) - http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1366/P6T_Deluxe/#specifications

There's a lot of debate as to the X58/LGA 1366 consumer lines maximum memory limits. The i7 9XX shares the same lithography as Xeon which has much higher memory limits; I cannot guarantee that your CPU/MOBO will support 48GB of RAM but the chances are good that it will. Watch this video, both the CPU and MOBO have the same listed limits of 24GB but 48GB is being used and fully recognized -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0eGh3cPt0w and tested -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg07DVkmwUg
 

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The RAM will be here tomorrow and I'll be installing it tomorrow night. I'll be checking this thread from my ipod touch when setting up the BIOS.

Thanks a lot for the help so far.
 

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In order to put all the sticks of RAM I had to rotate my cpu cooler 90 degrees. My cooler screws in from underneath the motherboard. That was fun I had to take everything out, but I managed to rerun all the wires better. Hopefully I'll have better cooling.

Right now all the RAM is in and recognized. The BIOS is set to AUTO for everything but it is working. Windows removed .1 on my windows experience score... woo
 
PV7324G1600ELHK - http://patriotmemory.com/products/detailp.jsp?prodline=5&catid=34&prodgroupid=197&id=970&type=1
DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24-2N @ 1.65v

MOBO: 6 x DIMM, Max. 24 GB, DDR3 2000(O.C.)*/1866(O.C.)*/1800(O.C.)*/1600(O.C.)/1333/1066 Non-ECC,Un-buffered

You have a few choices since it is a fully matched set XMP, Manually, or at a lower Frequency but faster CAS.

(XMP) BIOS:
AI Overclock Tuner -> XMP
eXtreme Memory Profile -> High Performance
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage -> Auto ; 1.30v~1.35v if problems
Save & Exit = Yes

(Manual) BIOS:
AI Overclock Tuner -> DOCP
DRAM OC Profile -> DDR3-16XXMHz ; this number varies on current BCLK
DRAM Timing Control /Enter
DRAM CAS -> 9
DRAM RAS to CAS -> 9
DRAM RAS PRE -> 9
DRAM RAS ACT -> 24
DRAM Timing Mode -> 2N
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage -> 1.30v~1.35v
DRAM Bus Voltage -> 1.64v ; 1.65v may require OV
Save & Exit = Yes

(DDR3-1333 @ CAS 8) BIOS:
AI Overclock Tuner -> DOCP
DRAM OC Profile -> DDR3-13XXMHz ; this number varies on current BCLK
DRAM Timing Control /Enter
DRAM CAS -> 8
DRAM RAS to CAS -> 8
DRAM RAS PRE -> 8
DRAM RAS ACT -> 24
DRAM Timing Mode -> 2N
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage -> Auto ; 1.20v~1.25v if problems
DRAM Bus Voltage -> 1.55v ; better stability with +0.05v
Save & Exit = Yes
 
Note: the e.g. "1600(O.C.)/" might suggest a BCLK OC and if it does then you might have problems per above, but it's easy to correct. There'd no point in me going through the exercise unless you run into an issue. Most all X58 and i7-9XX don't require it, but you clearly have an early version of an X58 MOBO.

Let me know...and Good Luck! :)
 

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I went this method except the DRAM OC Profile wouldn't allow me to select 16XXMHZ.
I had the option of 18XX or 20XX.
The 18XX seems to be working with settings the same as you've listed above.
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage -> 1.35v
DRAM Bus Voltage -> 1.64v

The 20XX failed to load.

As a simple test to see the results:
Windows Experience Score: Memory 7.9

Later I'll see how stable it is.
 
I simply looked at the Manual which must have been using an older BIOS. Right now you are OC'ing the RAM which is fine, but a little fast IMO for 24GB. In any case run Memtest overnight, create a bootable CD/DVD using the zip/ISO file.

(Manual updated) BIOS:
AI Overclock Tuner -> Auto
DRAM Frequency -> DDR3-1600
DRAM Timing Control /Enter
DRAM CAS -> 9
DRAM RAS to CAS -> 9
DRAM RAS PRE -> 9
DRAM RAS ACT -> 24
DRAM Timing Mode -> 2N
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage -> 1.30v~1.35v
DRAM Bus Voltage -> 1.64v ; 1.65v may require OV
Save & Exit = Yes
 
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