Gtx 570 vs hd 6970

Ok so this is my first build and I was wondering if I should use the gtx 570 or hd 697o. Ill probably play at 1080p on a 23 to 24 inch monitor. I will also have an i5 2500k.

Reply to BubbaThing

Either one will get the job done, it kinda comes down to preference, as they are very similar. I think they would be a little over kill for 1080p as even the 6850/460 can handle games at that resolution.

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Reply to zooted

If you ever want to add additional video cards, SLI has less driver issues than crossfire setups. I was once an AMD only guy. I just switched from 3 5850s - where I would get one driver-related issue fixed only to have some new driver-related issue with each monthly driver release - to 2 580s. No issues whatsoever with the SLI setup.

My other systems, all with just 1 AMD card, have absolutely no driver-related issues. If you plan on only having one card in your system, both are good choices.

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Reply to ubercake

Too close to call.
If you have a certain game you prefer over all others you might check and see which card best supports it.
Some games have a decided preference for AMD/ATI or NVidia cards.

Reply to WR2

ubercake wrote :

If you ever want to add additional video cards, SLI has less driver issues than crossfire setups. I was once an AMD only guy. I just switched from 3 5850s - where I would get one driver-related issue fixed only to have some new driver-related issue with each monthly driver release - to 2 580s. No issues whatsoever with the SLI setup.

My other systems, all with just 1 AMD card, have absolutely no driver-related issues. If you plan on only having one card in your system, both are good choices.

The 6xxx series has fixed most of those issues, as well as scaling. 6xxx series I would recommended for crossfire.

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Reply to zooted

zooted wrote :

Either one will get the job done, it kinda comes down to preference, as they are very similar. I think they would be a little over kill for 1080p as even the 6850/460 can handle games at that resolution.

Why would it be a over kill should I rather spend more money on a 120hz monitor. I want to average 40-50 on crysis maxed out

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Reply to BubbaThing

gtx 570, it will overclock well

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Reply to joelmartinez

http://www.frys.com/product/627109 [...] IN_RSLT_PG

Is this a good deal

Reply to BubbaThing

It is a good deal for a 3D-Ready monitor. But that's not what your after, is it?

Reply to WR2

I'd go for this monitor -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product 1920x1080 and slightly larger

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Reply to WR2

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=306 don't you need nvidia for 3d?

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Reply to joelmartinez

joelmartinez wrote :

I'd go for this monitor -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product 1920x1080 and slightly larger

Im trying to spend less

Reply to BubbaThing

So what should i go with. I want the best performance.

Reply to BubbaThing

With a $300 and change budget for a HD 6970 it looks like 2x 6850s is the best way to take a really good whack at Crysis

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Reply to WR2

If your budget is more like $500 (HD 6970 and that 3D monitor) twin HD 6950s look like a better option to me.
What motherboard and power supply are you working with?

Reply to WR2

WR2 wrote :

With a $300 and change budget for a HD 6970 it looks like 2x 6850s is the best way to take a really good whack at Crysis

I would rather stick with a new single gpu

Reply to BubbaThing

HD 6970 has slightly better Crysis performance than GTX 570.
A 120Mhz monitor would not increase the FPS you get.

Reply to WR2

why run a 120hz monitor if no 3d?????????

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Reply to joelmartinez

My budget is 300 dollars and I want new card. I will have a 850 watt power supply.

Reply to BubbaThing

You can just squeeze a GTX 570 into your budget if your play the rebate game.
MSI N570GTX-M2D12D5/OC GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit Video Card $325 & $30 rebate

or SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit Video Card with Eyefinity $277 & $20 rebate
(with possible a HD 6970 mod)

Reply to WR2

zooted wrote :

The 6xxx series has fixed most of those issues, as well as scaling. 6xxx series I would recommended for crossfire.

See... They fixed most of the issues. Why not all? You get to a point where you're complacent because most things work.

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Reply to ubercake

BubbaThing wrote :

Why would it be a over kill should I rather spend more money on a 120hz monitor. I want to average 40-50 on crysis maxed out

If you crank up the AA, AF, tesselation and you like the best video quality you can get at 1080p, go for as much video in a single card as you have budget for. You can always go SLI or Crossfire in the future.

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Reply to ubercake

im probably gonna go with twin 6850s

Reply to BubbaThing

You won't really have an upgrade path

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Reply to joelmartinez

ya just saw that.

Reply to BubbaThing

I think im going with the gtx 560

Reply to BubbaThing

Is that a good choice

Reply to BubbaThing

thats what i'm going with. from what people on here have said its a good value and has good oc potential like the gtx460

Reply to holyfingers

gtx 560 ti is supposed to overclock extremely well, good choice

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Reply to joelmartinez

GeForce GTX 560 Ti Overclocking guide

HardOCP GTX 560 Ti overclocking review

Reply to WR2

Ok changed my mind, gtx 570 suoerclocked vs his 6970

Reply to BubbaThing

Not authorized.

Reply to WR2

^ but it happens all the time anyway.

You can always do your own 'superclock' so don't pay the factory extra to do it for you.

What's going to be your #1 game? Pick the card that does best in that.
Metro 2033? HD 6970 / Battlefield: Bad Company 2? GTX 570
GTX 570 vs HD 6970 in games

Reply to WR2

Its probably games like crysis dirt, and online multiplayer

Reply to BubbaThing

The thing is that i dont like over clocking

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Reply to BubbaThing

BubbaThing wrote :

The thing is that i dont like over clocking

Another thing to consider is if you buy factory OC and don't mess with it, you're still under warranty.

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Reply to ubercake

Im probably going to get the gtx 560 because im going to get the i7 instead of the i5

Reply to BubbaThing

go for i5, i7 is really not worth it for gaming

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Reply to joelmartinez

joelmartinez wrote :

go for i5, i7 is really not worth it for gaming

Are you sure because the 2mb cache difference might cause lag

Reply to BubbaThing

If you want the TOP performance in every category you'll need the i7-2600K and GTX 580.

Since you're not going for the GTX 580 you probably don't need the i7-2600K either.

He's sure. joelmartinez is giving you good advice.

Reply to WR2

so this is what i have so far

LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
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$17.99

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811119160
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-$20.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$159.98
$139.98

Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136283
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$69.99

ASUS VH238H Black 23" Full HD HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor w/Speakers
Item #: N82E16824236117
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-$20.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$209.99
$189.99

SAPPHIRE 100312SR Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
Item #: N82E16814102914
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$276.99

RAZER DeathAdder Black 5 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Precision Optical Gaming Mouse - 3.5G Infrared Sensor
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G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL
Item #: N82E16820231429
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$249.99

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
Item #: N82E16819115072
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
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Im getting a 850 watt powersupply for $80
I am waiting for the asus p67 sabertooth

Reply to BubbaThing

I think that looks good. I would think many on here would recommend the spinpoint 3 1TB over the WD HDD -same price I think, maybe 10 dollars less, but of course the choice is yours. Also, some might say 16gb is a little overkill now, 8 would do great, but again the choice is yours.

Good luck and have fun!

HF

Reply to holyfingers

80$ for 850w? Make sure it has good reviews, bad psu can be the death of a great system

Btw 16g is wayyyyyyyyyy (x10000) over kill. 4 is usually plenty for the average user, and ram is only getting cheaper. Try 4 or 8 and if you REALLY need it, just upgrade later

Reply to Ajrslg

I hope you all are aware that a 6950 (only about $200) can be "unlocked" through a bios flash, to literally turn into a 6970 (worth about $300). So IMO, don't buy the 6970 unless you are a rich fool.

Reply to Junaid96

I think i might just get an xbox cause most of my friends have it so i can play with them

Reply to BubbaThing

That's always an option. Lots of fun to be had on the Xbox and the Live service is great for multiplayer. You just don't get the same graphics and controls.

On the other hand, all the hardware works together and if it doesn't you just send it to their repair center in McAllen, Texas.

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Reply to ubercake

srry I was gone. I came to ask if I should choose the hd 6950. I am so confused on what to choose. I want the maximum performance in all games in general.

Reply to BubbaThing

By the time I've posted this, you probably have already chosen what setup you'll have. But here's my two bits anyway.

Well, I do like the products that you've thought of so far. I hope you don't mind a few suggestions. I've also been struggling with which graphics card to choose exactly like you. I want the best performance I can get for my money since I am on a budget. I looked at the GTX 570 and it seems to be worth the money more so than the GTX 580. There is roughly a 120+ dollar difference.

Here is a website (or two) to help show the performance of the GTX 570 in comparison of the GTX 580. (you'll need to copy and paste)

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-570-review/1

http://www.geforce.com/#/Hardware/ [...] erformance

The 6950 and 6970 both provide good performance on a slightly smaller budget. But price to performance is about the same when you consider the GTX 570 into the whole lot. (here's another website)

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-6950-6970-review/

The 6950 performs slightly slower if not the same as the GTX 570, whereas the 6970 performs better if not equal to the GTX 570.

There is another really good website for comparing graphics cards.

www.anantech.com

They have a tool that allows you to examine different benchmarks and compare the results. It is called "bench". Currently 5:41pm May 30, 2011. That section of the website is down, but "should" be back up and running soon.

I hope that these help.

p.s. after reading some of these replies I might go to a i5 2500k instead of the i7 2600k. Good luck.

Message edited by jrodfry on 05-31-2011 at 02:47:50 AM

Reply to jrodfry

a thanks havent decided but im again confused gtx 560 sp oc vs hd 6950 u said that the 6950 was equal so is that better im tring to get the best bang for the buck in m sstem

Reply to BubbaThing

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