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May 30, 2011 10:17:50 AM

Alright so I want the CPU that will make the biggest difference in performance pertaining to gaming. I've got an Athlon II X2 250 right now and it just isn't doing the job.

I've checked to see what my motherboard supports and narrowed it down to 4 choices, they are:
Athlon II X4 640
Athlon II X4 645
Phenom II X4 840
Phenom II X4 945

For anyone wondering why the Phenom II X4 955 BE isn't on this list, it's because my mobo only supports CPU's with a TDP of 95 and the 955 is a 125w

Any pointers on which of these would be the best as well as tips on how to tell which CPU is better would be greatly appreciated.
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May 30, 2011 10:22:42 AM

Hello!
could give us your specs?
And to me the best would be 945, the 945 would last you for a good 18months.
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May 30, 2011 10:30:51 AM

is your build a propiety build?
Made by HP, Dell etc?
May 30, 2011 10:37:05 AM

I had that processor (AMD Athlon II X2 250) and upgraded to the phenom x4 820. I hardly even noticed a difference... It's not worth the $100 in my opinion.
May 30, 2011 10:38:48 AM

ghnader hsmithot said:
is your build a propiety build?
Made by HP, Dell etc?



Yes, it's an HP. Here's the link to hp's page on it. I've upgraded the video card and the PSU and now I'm moving on to a CPU, I'll eventually get a whole new mobo too, but I don't have enough money at the moment.
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May 30, 2011 10:38:51 AM

+1 Phenom II X4 945
May 30, 2011 10:40:26 AM

getignited114 said:
I had that processor (AMD Athlon II X2 250) and upgraded to the phenom x4 820. I hardly even noticed a difference... It's not worth the $100 in my opinion.


Well then what would be the best way to increase my computers performance with games? I can't afford a new $200 VGA at the moment.
May 30, 2011 10:43:48 AM

ghnader hsmithot said:
http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport...

is this your mobo?
You wont see it in very lightly thread applications/software.If you were running more intense apps you would definitely see a difference.



Yep that's it. So am I getting the vibe that it wouldn't be worth it to upgrade my CPU right now? If not what could I do instead?
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May 30, 2011 10:45:23 AM

Processor Code name Cores Frequency Multipl. HT clock L2 Cache L3 Cache Socket RAM-Contr. TDP
Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 4 3.2 GHz 16 (open) 2,000 MHz 2 MiByte 6 MiByte AM2+/AM3 DDR2/DDR3 125 W
Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 4 3.0 GHz 15 2,000 MHz 2 MiByte 6 MiByte AM2+/AM3 DDR2/DDR3 125 W
Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 4 3.0 GHz 15 (open) 1,800 MHz 2 MiByte 6 MiByte AM2+ DDR2 125 W
Phenom II X4 920 Deneb 4 2.8 GHz 14 1,800 MHz 2 MiByte 6 MiByte AM2+ DDR2 125 W
Phenom II X4 910 Deneb 4 2.6 GHz 13 2,000 MHz 2 MiByte 6 MiByte AM2+/AM3 DDR2/DDR3 95 W


Thats right all the info im getting states the 945 is also 125w

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,684987/AMD-Phenom-II...
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May 30, 2011 10:45:32 AM

I still think you should contact Hp according to them.

Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:

Socket type: AM3
TDP: 95 watt
AMD Phenom II X4 9xx/9xxe/8xx Quad-Core (Deneb)
AMD Phenom II X3 7xx/7xxe Triple-Core (Heka)
AMD Phenom II X2 5xx (Callisto)
AMD II Athlon X4 6xx/6xxe (Propus)
AMD II Athlon X3 4xx/4xxe (Rana)
AMD II Athlon X2 2xx/2xxe (Regor)
AMD Sempron 1xx (Sargas)

http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport...

You should contact HP first before really getting an upgrade.
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May 30, 2011 10:46:36 AM

Save your money for a ground up new build.
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May 30, 2011 10:46:42 AM

Uther39 said:
Processor Code name Cores Frequency Multipl. HT clock L2 Cache L3 Cache Socket RAM-Contr. TDP
Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 4 3.2 GHz 16 (open) 2,000 MHz 2 MiByte 6 MiByte AM2+/AM3 DDR2/DDR3 125 W
Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 4 3.0 GHz 15 2,000 MHz 2 MiByte 6 MiByte AM2+/AM3 DDR2/DDR3 125 W
Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 4 3.0 GHz 15 (open) 1,800 MHz 2 MiByte 6 MiByte AM2+ DDR2 125 W
Phenom II X4 920 Deneb 4 2.8 GHz 14 1,800 MHz 2 MiByte 6 MiByte AM2+ DDR2 125 W
Phenom II X4 910 Deneb 4 2.6 GHz 13 2,000 MHz 2 MiByte 6 MiByte AM2+/AM3 DDR2/DDR3 95 W


Thats right all the info im getting states the 945 is also 125w

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,684987/AMD-Phenom-II...


Yes, that is why i suggest you contact Hp for a better idea for the supported cpu's.
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May 30, 2011 10:53:44 AM

luigiman555 said:
I'm getting my info off of newegg, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and they say the 945 is a 95W. Are their specs wrong or??

No their are two versions of phenom II X4 945
125w
http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=...

and
95w
http://products.amd.com/en-na/desktopcpudetail.aspx?id=...

BOth are different revisions of the cpu so that means that the 95w is a newer revision and a new manufacturing process.

Please contact your manufacturer for further information regarding your motherboard.
May 30, 2011 10:58:19 AM

Ok so there are two versions, thanks for specifying that. As far as contacting HP goes, I don't really trust there support considering last time I contacted them they tried to sell me a 650GB hard drive for $120 and offered no real support. I'm pretty sure my warranty is voided anyways since I took all the hardware out and put it in a new case.

Also once again is a CPU the best way for me to get better gaming performance or is there another way for around $100?
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May 30, 2011 11:01:50 AM

luigiman555 said:
Ok so there are two versions, thanks for specifying that. As far as contacting HP goes, I don't really trust there support considering last time I contacted them they tried to sell me a 650GB hard drive for $120 and offered no real support. I'm pretty sure my warranty is voided anyways since I took all the hardware out and put it in a new case.

Also once again is a CPU the best way for me to get better gaming performance or is there another way for around $100?

I think you should save up for a new build.That is my opinion, games should run fine on medium to low settings.Save the 100.
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May 30, 2011 11:03:52 AM

luigiman555 said:
Ok so there are two versions, thanks for specifying that. As far as contacting HP goes, I don't really trust there support considering last time I contacted them they tried to sell me a 650GB hard drive for $120 and offered no real support. I'm pretty sure my warranty is voided anyways since I took all the hardware out and put it in a new case.

Also once again is a CPU the best way for me to get better gaming performance or is there another way for around $100?

And sorry, i cant give you advice on the upgrade because the bios is locked by HP and they only accept some upgrades and seeing your Hp Specs they seem so unclear on what type of upgrade the mobo will accept.
May 30, 2011 11:06:49 AM

Alright, then what's my next step? A new mobo? I'm sorry just the reason behind this is because I can barely run Brink on low settings and I thought maybe a new CPU would help, I just have a really tight budget.
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May 30, 2011 11:11:11 AM

luigiman555 said:
Alright, then what's my next step? A new mobo? I'm sorry just the reason behind this is because I can barely run Brink on low settings and I thought maybe a new CPU would help, I just have a really tight budget.

i think a gpu would help.That is my opinion.A good cpu would also do the trick.
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May 30, 2011 11:15:44 AM

you could upgrade the gpu to a radeon 5770.But i am not sure if it would be limited by your cpu.
May 30, 2011 11:15:48 AM

Well I plan on getting either a Radeon HD 6850 or 6870 when I have the money but what would be a good CPU in your opinion?

EDIT: I realize I would need a better psu to power those cards.
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May 30, 2011 11:17:36 AM

phenomII X4 945 and beyond would be great.I cant give you anymore recommendations.Cuz all this is so unclear your mobo doesnt specify much on its page.

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May 30, 2011 11:19:33 AM
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OK good advice form ghnader.

As far as i can see, you have 2 choices,

1 = Save money for a complete new build.

2 = Buy the 95watt variant of the 945 and try it in your mobo, if it works then all fine and dandy, if not then you still have a half decent mid range gaming cpu, so use this as a basis of a new build, as you can then buy new AM3 mobo and DDR3 RAM both of which are cheap enough.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
May 30, 2011 11:21:34 AM

Alright well then the 95W phenom 945 seem's pretty good because I wouldn't have to buy a new mobo right away, then when I have the money I could get a better vga psu and mobo around the same time.

Edit: Thank you guys so much for the help, that mobo looks great I'll keep it bookmarked, also thanks for the ram recommendation. This has helped so much, glad I know what to look forward to when I have the money :) 
June 6, 2011 4:53:18 AM

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