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March 1, 2011 12:20:22 AM

Hi,

Been a long time reader, first time poster. I am about to build a new computer, just waiting for the SB MoBos to roll out for retail. The main purpose of this machine would be for gaming. I have a budget of up to $2000, but would like to spend as little as possible, but enough for a mid-high end machine. I will like this machine to last me a good amount of years. I do not plan to OC anything, since I do not have the experience and probably don't need to. I do plan to SLI but not initially.

Parts that I don't need atm are:
1.) Monitor, I have an ASUS 23.6" monitor that I bought recently. (1920x1080 resolution)
2.) Speakers, got a Logitech x540 which I am happy with
3.) Keyboard, though if good enough would swap to a gaming keyboard, but don't really see the points, macro buttons don't interest me enough, backlit keys on the other hand kinda do but I don't want to pay a huge premium for keys to light up, lol

I have selected these parts and would like some advice/reviews before I pull the trigger:

CPU: Intel i5 2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MoBo: ASUS P8P67 Pro
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Corsair HX 850W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Antec 902 v3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: EVGA GTX 560 Ti
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G. SKILL Sniper 8GB (2x 4GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD: Crucial RealSSD C300 64GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Optical: ASUS 24X DVD/CD Combo Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mouse: Logitech G500
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Questions:
1.) I'm not sure if the PSU is overkill for my build, but I do plan to get another GTX 560 Ti down the line or SLI the current graphics card in 1-2 years, so I guess 850W should be enough?
2.) Also should I get TIM like Artic Silver 5 on a stock cooler? would it give me better temperature then the thermal pad included?
3.) Since I don't plan to OC, would a HSF like the Coolmaster 212 Plus do anything in terms of performance/temperature for my CPU?
4.) Not 100% sure on my SSD choices, was going to go with the OCZ Vertex 2, but read that OCZ doesn't package as advertise so would not like to mess with that
5.)Would adding a 2nd vid card upfront give me more performance on current games at 1920x1080 or not that much?

That's about it, if anyone can kindly give me some advice or review my build, it would be greatly appreciated!

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March 1, 2011 12:43:41 AM

1) That is more PSU than you need, however if you plan on upgrading in the future it's always good to invest in a quality PSU (Like your HX850) if you have the money now. With over 80% efficiency it's not like it will cost you any more money in electricity than something with lower wattage and you have more breathing room for the future.

Can't help you with 2-4

5) With this current generation of SLI (and Crossfire) the benefits of a second graphics card are significant. If you were looking at a GTX 580 for instance I would probably recommend two GTX 560's instead as you'd notice considerable frame rate improvements (at the sacrifice of not being able to add another 580 as an upgrade in the future). That being said in most games today a GTX 560 will give you perfectly playable frame rates at 1920x1080 with a second card being optional when they go down in price later in the year (when Skyrim comes out of course).
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March 1, 2011 1:02:53 AM

1. Case - Save $10 and get more features moving up to Antec's newest mid tower

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - The HX850 is way more than you need for twin 560's .... A good 650 - 750 watter from XFX is fine. If your going to OC the GFX and the CPU, I'd go with an XFX Black Edition 750. XFX Black Edition gets exact same 10.0 performance rating from jonnyguru.com as HX series but is way cheaper. If not OC'ing 650 watts is fine

$90 XFX Black Edition 750w - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$65 XFX 650W - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

RAM - Given past experience w/ GSkill's, I'd be more inclined to go with one of the following for the same price:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My experience however could be an anomaly but I have had a high return rate w/ the Gskills.

2. No, TIM not necessary w/ stock cooler. With 2500k you can get to 4.5 GHz on stock cooler

3. No need for 3rd party cooler unless going past 4.5 GHz.....if ya get a cooler, the Scythe SCMG 2100 w/ Shin Etsu would be a better buy than the 212.

Cooler - $40 - Scythe SCMG 2100 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

4. The Vertex 2 120 Giggers have a capacity issue. I think you will find a 64 GB SSD too small. Unfortunately, that's made the 90 GB model shoot up $35 since yesterday. Considering ya saved $60 minimum on the PSU with the above (assuming you getting the 750 Black) and $10 on the case, that $70 gets you most of the $125 ya need to jump to a C300 128GB model.

And adding a 560 in SLI will take you.....

-from 81 to 141 fps in Far Cry 2 (174%)
-from 68 to 115 fps in Dawn of Discovery (169%)
-from 47 to 80 fps in Cysis Warhead (170%)
-from 23 to 43 fps in Metro 2033 (187%)
-from 66 to 123 fps in Dirt 2 (186%)
-from 47 to 90 fps in BFBC2 (191%)
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March 1, 2011 1:23:01 AM

Thanks for the fast replies, JackNaylorPE - those FPS are based on Maxed out settings I assume?
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March 1, 2011 4:52:17 PM

Can anyone give me a bit more input, thanks!
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