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December 27, 2010 9:06:59 PM

Hey there i have a Dell xps 420 pc and my Nividia GeForce 8800 gt die.I am going to buy a new graphics card but im not sure what graphics card would work for my pc.My pc info is:

processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6850 @ 3.00gHz 2.99 GHz

Ram 3.00g 64-bit operating system

power supply of 400w

I know if i get a new graphics card i would have to upgrade the power supply what kind of power supply should i get and what is the best graphic card that i can get for my pc?

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December 27, 2010 10:51:35 PM

If I were you here is what I would do....

Fist off you need another gig of ram

next what resolution do you game at??

without knowing this info, here is a power supply and graphics card that I would reccomend that will see a minimal bottleneck from your cpu.


Gigabyte HD 6850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

you could also buy an aftermarket cpu cooler and overclock your cpu a bit...
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December 27, 2010 11:49:55 PM

at 1920 x 1080 resolution the graphics card u link me is not that good i want to know if my pc would be able to use like one of the best graphics card out there like Geforce gtx 480 or cards like that
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December 28, 2010 12:45:52 AM

well with a gtx 480 you will be able to use it sure, but not to its full capabilities, Based on what cpu you have I would say not to go anything higher than say a gtx 470/6870 with your cpu becoming a bottleneck. Really the 6850/ gtx 460 is the way to go and just lower the res to 1650X1080 in some games that need it but most should be playable at 1920X1080, but based on what cpu have that is my recommendation


if you have unlimited budget and an ample power supply then go for a 6950/70 or gtx 570/80 it will work with decreased performance and you can carry it over to a nerw build otherwise stick with something that you wont see a major bottleneck such as a 6850/gtx 460 and you should be happy until your next build

also what is the make and model of your mobo?? I would pick up some more ram
December 28, 2010 7:03:29 AM

i'm not sure and if i get the EVGA GeForce GTX470 what kind of power supply should i get?
a b U Graphics card
December 28, 2010 8:56:04 AM

Minimum 550watt power supply

I would go with this just in case
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December 28, 2010 2:37:05 PM

You could probably go with a 6850 without upgrading your PSU. Right now though the Antec 650W is currently on sale

Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W $49.99 after rebates. Promo code EMCZNNW24

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's certainly enough to power any single card. If you want to stay with nVidia then go with a GTX 470 or GTX 460 depending on your resolution, or wait for the GTX 560. On the AMD side it's the 6850, 6870, or 5870 (which is getting cleared out and thus a great deal) depending on your resolution. I say going AMD is a better value, but it's up to you.

You never put down your budget by the way so you'll get all kinds of responses
December 28, 2010 5:50:25 PM

what is better 6850 or Gtx 470?
December 28, 2010 6:41:23 PM

How big of differences would it be to the Gtx 470 to the GTX 580 would it be worth the money if i got the gtx 580 and if so why?
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December 28, 2010 6:48:24 PM

With a dual core at 3ghz anything better than the GTX 470 won't matter much. The GTX 460 is the best choice to pair with your processor imo. It performs very well at 1080p even at reference speeds, over twice as fast as your 8800gt, and can also overclock a large amount(often 30%+) with good performance scaling.
December 28, 2010 6:55:14 PM

thanks would it be worth it to get another gig of ram?
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December 28, 2010 6:57:55 PM

It's a good idea. Ram is pretty cheap right now and I believe with 3 gigs you aren't using the dual channel capability of your motherboard so you will end up with faster ram as well when upgrading to 4gb.
December 28, 2010 7:05:56 PM

thank i just check and i have 2g of ram 2 slots and 2 512 mb would it worth the money to get 8g of ram or just get one more 1g of ram ?
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December 28, 2010 8:02:45 PM

I wouldn't bother with 8gb. More than 4gb is of questionable use unless you do something that you know can take advantage of it like rendering, HD video editing or music production.
December 28, 2010 8:20:40 PM

what type of ram should i get and would it be better if i get it online or go to frys and buy it?
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December 28, 2010 10:06:10 PM

The XPS 420 was sold with DDR2 667 and DDR2 800. If you have DDR2 800 then get the same. If you have DDR2 667 either will do. There's a good chance you'll find it cheaper online but sometimes Fry's has nice sales.
December 30, 2010 5:56:43 AM

thanks how long do graphics card last for and is there anything that i can do to max out the life of a graphics card?
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December 30, 2010 7:16:16 AM

garlicbread said:
thanks how long do graphics card last for and is there anything that i can do to max out the life of a graphics card?


all depends on usage but it will last the longest if it can keep cool, (good case airflow) and stay dust free then it should last for a long time. Make sure it doesn't build up dust bunnies and explode and keep it cool and that is the best you can do short of buying an aftermarket waterbolck or cooler but those things will not necessarily extend its life but will allow it to run cool.

from my expirience the dell xps 420 case does not have very good airflow and builds up a lot of dust internally so make sure to clear dust with a spray say bi-monthly or so just to make sure
December 31, 2010 5:46:25 AM

thanks when i look up Gtx 470 there are so many kind of 470 and i don't know what kind should i get what is the best 470 card i can get for the money?
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December 31, 2010 8:15:56 PM

It looks likes they are both reference versions of the card so physically there is no difference. So it comes down to price and warranty. I would just go for the cheaper Asus card as they are both good brands.
January 2, 2011 5:52:11 PM

thanks what is the best GTX 470 graphics card?
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January 3, 2011 1:47:13 AM

The GTX 470s with the best cooling are going to $300 or close to it. At that point you would be better off just getting an HD6950 and unlocking it into a HD6970 for much better performance.
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January 3, 2011 4:56:54 PM

jyjjy said:
The GTX 470s with the best cooling are going to $300 or close to it. At that point you would be better off just getting an HD6950 and unlocking it into a HD6970 for much better performance.



agreed the gtx 470 that im seeing on newegg in particular are a ripoff now, if you can find one for 240 or less go for it, but if not a 6950 for 300 would be a much better choice, and of course unlocking it to a 6970 would be even nicer....

also as jyjjy said, the gtx 470s with the good coolers are around 300 which is not worth it imo.

another valid option would be a 6870 if you can find one for cheap, I got mine for 210 AR and i feel like it was a pretty good value
January 4, 2011 9:03:46 PM

thanks but jyjjy said the Gtx 470 would work better for my pc vs the 6950 is that true or you think i should get the 6950.I found a gtx 470 for 260.
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January 4, 2011 9:21:43 PM

Well the HD6950 is certainly the better card, especially when unlocked. The issue is your CPU. In most games a C2D at 3ghz is going to limit you from seeing much benefit from a card better than a GTX 470 but it will still help you max out the settings on a few games like Crysis and Metro 2033. If you end up upgrading the rest of your system it will give you a much greater overall benefit.
In general I would recommend just getting a GTX 460 or HD6850 and giving it a nice OC. If you have plans to upgrade the rest of the system before too long then consider the HD6950. One of the new Sandy Bridge i5-2500ks, a motherboard for it and 4 gigs of DDR3 will probably cost you $300-400 and would be a huge upgrade over what you have now, especially when overclocked.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=59
January 5, 2011 4:13:13 AM

I've thought about it, and i've decided that I might as well buy a top quality graphics card because I plan on building a new MONSTER of a gaming pc.

With that in mind, and money not being an object, what type of setup would you reccomend?

A good single card? or should I crossfire 2 or 3 together?

Also, my son, where would I find information on how to overclock a card, or maybe even crossfire them together.

Thanks.
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January 5, 2011 4:12:39 PM

garlicbread said:
I've thought about it, and i've decided that I might as well buy a top quality graphics card because I plan on building a new MONSTER of a gaming pc.

With that in mind, and money not being an object, what type of setup would you reccomend?

A good single card? or should I crossfire 2 or 3 together?

Also, my son, where would I find information on how to overclock a card, or maybe even crossfire them together.

Thanks.



as you have been recommended several times already get the 6950, unlock it to a 6970, or not, and then you can crossfire way down the road, but even with a single card you will have great performance, you kind of need a purpose to go any higher imo either greater than 1080p res, eyefinity or 3d so really there is not much reason to crossfire a card on the level of a 6950 unless you are going for something extraordinary like I just listed.

keep in mind, almost any card will not work with your current psu so consider that as well, might want to build the machine the card is going into first, along with an ample psu, etc and then buy the video card after the fact once you have a system to unleash its potential. If you buy the card and run it on your current psu it will not work
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January 5, 2011 4:16:29 PM

megamanx00 said:
You could probably go with a 6850 without upgrading your PSU. Right now though the Antec 650W is currently on sale

Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W $49.99 after rebates. Promo code EMCZNNW24

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's certainly enough to power any single card. If you want to stay with nVidia then go with a GTX 470 or GTX 460 depending on your resolution, or wait for the GTX 560. On the AMD side it's the 6850, 6870, or 5870 (which is getting cleared out and thus a great deal) depending on your resolution. I say going AMD is a better value, but it's up to you.

You never put down your budget by the way so you'll get all kinds of responses



I think this would also be a logical upgrade path, buying this psu and gpu now then when you make a new build crossfiring the 6850 down the road that would also give you excellent performance.

this makes a lot more sense to me as with your current cpu I wouldnt really go any higher than a 6850/ gtx 470, also all these upgrades might run up much more of a bill then you anticipate but I think this would allow you to upgrade slowly, just a thought, its up to you
January 18, 2011 4:02:20 AM

i got the gtx 470 card but when i pay wow i get 60 fps and then it goes down to around 40s when there is a lot of people why is that?What do i need to do to get more fps?
a b U Graphics card
January 18, 2011 1:24:25 PM

likely your cpu is holding you back, that and probably bandwidth holding you back your gpu is fine
January 18, 2011 4:10:15 PM

thanks for the help the im thinking about getting the i5-2500K but im not sure what would be the best Motherboard would go with it.What kind of Motherboard should i get?
a b U Graphics card
January 18, 2011 4:37:11 PM

do you want something sli capable? if so go with this (or something similar)::

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

if not here is one with just one pci-express slot:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

you will likely need some ddr3 so I would go with something like this....

I would go for the 8 gig kit, even though you will be fine with 4, but on the micro atx motherboard you only have two available ram slots::

4 gigs:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

8 gigs:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

imo the 8 gigs is a way better deal and will be fine for now and good into the future. Especially since your getting the nice midrange cpu and nice motherboard you might as well spend a little on some decent memory imo.
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January 18, 2011 4:39:17 PM

well i would shoot for something like that and if you can't get it all at once just wait and save and it will be worth it, plus it would be hard not to buy it all at once
January 18, 2011 11:11:07 PM

is it true that the i5-2500K is better for gaming then the Intel Core i7-2600K ?
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