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March 2, 2011 12:30:36 AM

Hi guys I have 2 builds here and trying to decide which would be best.
I'm hoping to get some advice so I can order within the next few days.
I've read a lot about both processors and just can't decide which way to go.
Rig will be used for gaming but not heavy gaming.
Thx for any help in advance with making decision or changes to build.
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BUILD 1

•CAS: CoolerMaster HAF 912 Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Adjustable HDD Cage [+10] (Black Color)
•CASUPGRADE: None
•CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
•CD2: None
•CPU: AMD Phenom™II X6 1090T Six-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
•CS_FAN: Maximum 120MM Color Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+15] (Blue Color)
•FA_HDD: None
•FAN: CoolerMaster V6 GT CPU Cooler (Nickle Plated Double-V Heatpipe w/ Color Changing LED Cap) [+22]
•FLASHMEDIA: None
•FREEGAME_VC02: None
•GLASSES: None
•HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [-54] (Single Hard Drive)
•HDD2: None
•IEEE_CARD: None
•KEYBOARD: None [-4]
•MB_ADDON: None
•MEMORY: 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module (Corsair Dominator [+118])
•MONITOR: None
•MONITOR2: None
•MONITOR3: None
•MOTHERBOARD: GigaByte GA-770T-USB3 AMD 770 Chipset Support DDR3 Ultra Durable™3 Socket AM3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-II, RAID, 1 Gen2 PCIe, 4 PCIe X1, & 2 PCI
•MOUSE: None [-3]
•MULTIVIEW: Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
•NCSW: None
•NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
•OS: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
•POWERSUPPLY: * 850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TX 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready [+85]
•RUSH: 5% Instant Rebate for Non-Rush Delivery Order over $999 - Ships within 3 Weeks - Must Enter Coupon Code "NORUSH" during checkout
•SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
•SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
•SPEAKERS: None
•TEMP: Aerocool V12XT Dual Bay Touch Screen Fan Control [+49]
•TVRC: None
•USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
•USBFLASH: None
•USBHD: None
•USBX: None
•VC_PHYSX: None
•VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+19] (Palit Sonic Powered by NVIDIA
•VIDEO2: None
•VIDEO3: None

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BUILD 2

•CAS: CoolerMaster HAF 912 Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Adjustable HDD Cage [+7] (Black Color)
•CASUPGRADE: None
•CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
•CD2: None
•CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-2500K 3.30 GHz 6M Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified)
•CS_FAN: Maximum 120MM Color Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+15] (Blue Color)
•FA_HDD: None
•FAN: CoolerMaster V6 GT CPU Cooler (Nickle Plated Double-V Heatpipe w/ Color Changing LED Cap) [+22]
•FLASHMEDIA: None
•FREEBIE_CU1: FREE Game - Napoleon: Total War
•GLASSES: None
•HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
•HDD2: None
•IEEE_CARD: None
•KEYBOARD: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
•MB_ADDON: None
•MEMORY: 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module [-64] (Corsair Dominator [+24])
•MONITOR: None
•MONITOR2: None
•MONITOR3: None
•MOTHERBOARD: * [CrossFireX/SLI] GigaByte GA-P67A-UD4-B3 Intel P67 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2x SATA-III RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 3 PCIe x1 & 2 PCI [B3 Stepping] [+29]
•MOUSE: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
•MULTIVIEW: Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
•NCSW: None
•NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
•OS: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
•OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
•POWERSUPPLY: * 750 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-750TX 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready [+83]
•RUSH: 5% Instant Rebate for Non-Rush Delivery Order over $999 - Ships within 3 Weeks - Must Enter Coupon Code "NORUSH" during checkout
•SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
•SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
•SPEAKERS: None
•TEMP: Aerocool V12XT Dual Bay Touch Screen Fan Control [+49]
•TVRC: None
•USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
•USBFLASH: None
•USBHD: None
•USBX: None
•VC_PHYSX: None
•VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GT

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March 2, 2011 12:48:03 AM

Hello gatonius;

What resolution will you be gaming with? The 2nd build is missing a video card.

If the plan calls for
X6 1090T / GTX 560 Ti vs Core i5-2500K vs GTX 560 Ti
and the prices are very close together the i5-2500K system gets the nod.
It will have better performance in most every game where the CPU is more important the the video card.
And it has a future CPU upgrade path for the GigaByte GA-P67A-UD4-B3 P67 motherboard with the Ivy Bridge

AMD is switching over the AMD3+ so the GigaByte GA-770T-USB3 won't be able to take a Bulldozer CPU.
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March 2, 2011 12:58:14 AM

2500K, no contest, particularly for gaming and overclocking.

--Why the different psu's?
--What graphics card on #2?

Have you priced out the individual components to see how much is being charged for assembly?
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March 2, 2011 1:00:16 AM

I was thinking the different PSUs was for price matching purposes.
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March 2, 2011 1:01:30 AM

@ geofelt ; How is your Sandy Bridge build running?
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March 2, 2011 1:02:53 AM

sorry cut off graphics card when copying text.
Both builds same card.
I wanted to get some input on the different cpus
One of my buds says AMD the other Intel
Just like one says 8gb Ram the other says 4 plus a 1 gb graphics card is more than enough
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March 2, 2011 1:04:46 AM

around $100.00 for assembly but since I am disabled and don't get around well that is fine with me.
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March 2, 2011 1:07:50 AM

Build 2 specifies that there won't be any overclocking so why are you choosing the K suffixed processor? Just get the i5-2500 and put the money saved towards improving another component.
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March 2, 2011 1:08:27 AM

For gaming - 4GB is plenty. And you can always add more later.

Your buds aren't too far off. Im 'most' games the GPU (with the higher monitor resolutions) is the 'limiting factor' in overall performance.

That means you could get a X4 955 / X 6 1090T / i5 2500K CPU and in a GPU bound game you'd get the same game performance.

But you've seen the CPU benchmarks... that i5 2500K has a lot of power,
and there is that future CPU upgrade path with the P67 motherboards.
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March 2, 2011 1:11:01 AM

ko888 said:
Build 2 specifies that there won't be any overclocking
... overclocking by the CyberPower build team.
gatonius can do that himself. Very easy to do, and (IMO) to not paying Cyberpower to do that with a K model CPU is a smart option.
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March 2, 2011 1:13:27 AM

WR2 said:
@ geofelt ; How is your Sandy Bridge build running?


It is performing well.
I am awaiting a intel 510 ssd.
I am only oc'ed to 4.0 and I have had occurrences of overclocking failed stoppages every three weeks or so.
It is unclear why, and I will research it when I get around to it.
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March 2, 2011 1:15:36 AM

Thx guys...man you have really helped me.
My monitor supports up to 1920x1200 (older westinghouse 24"
Looks like the intel rig it is
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March 2, 2011 1:18:48 AM

one other question....someone told me the Kingston HyperX ram was just as good as the corsair dominator ram...is that true or should I stick with the extra $ for the corsair
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March 2, 2011 1:20:59 AM

Good choice, I think. Especially if your like RPGs and SIM (flight sim/racing sim) type games those are the types that really can use the extra CPU power of the Sandy Bridge option.

1920x1200 - still my preferred monitor resolution (till I can figure out a way to justify 25600x1600!)
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March 2, 2011 1:22:57 AM

In general I think that is true - just as good.
If I could figure out the exact part number I could be sure. Corsair has a lot of different options even just in the Dominator line. But not enough info from Cyberpower listing to tell.
Either one is a very safe option.
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March 2, 2011 1:23:20 AM

ooops had to edit...your reply came right after I typed last one.
OK I was wondering because kingston is on sale at cyberpower and cheaper right now
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March 2, 2011 1:26:27 AM

gatonius said:
one other question....someone told me the Kingston HyperX ram was just as good as the corsair dominator ram...is that true or should I stick with the extra $ for the corsair

The integrated memory controller on the current Intel cpu's are very good, and can keep it fed with data from any speed ram.
Do not pay more for faster ram, better timings, or fancy heat spreaders. It will make almost no (<1-3%) difference in fps.
Considering how cheap ram is these days, consider a 8gb in a 2 x 4gb kit. Here's why:
http://blog.corsair.com/?p=65
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March 2, 2011 1:33:50 AM

so if i go with 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module (Kingston HyperX) it should be good (8gb's only cost $40.00 more than 4gbs corsair dominator
it's also a free upgrade from 1333 to 1600
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March 2, 2011 1:41:46 AM

It wasn't that long ago that 4GB of RAM was running $120.

$40 extra for 8GB is a luxury - but its just $40. HyperX is fine.
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March 2, 2011 1:43:21 AM

Gota link to your configurator? I'll look over the CPU coolers for you...
might be something to save a bit on to offset the extra RAM.

2500K doesnt need a top of the line cooler to overclock well.
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March 2, 2011 1:46:33 AM

just re-read your post and saw you are suggesting two 4gb sticks have to see if they have that....what i posted was 4 2 gb sticks
good thing I re-read
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March 2, 2011 1:50:52 AM

ok if i went with 8gbs 2x4gbs it is actually 99 bucks more
it's less if i went with 4x2gb
Also I haven't tryed OCing before so I may in the future but not right away
I appreciate the help any bucks I can save and still have a good fast RIG that will last is a good thing
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March 2, 2011 1:58:41 AM

gatonius said:
ok if i went with 8gbs 2x4gbs it is actually 99 bucks more
it's less if i went with 4x2gb
Also I haven't tryed OCing before so I may in the future but not right away
I appreciate the help any bucks I can save and still have a good fast RIG that will last is a good thing


I think you are getting ripped off.
8gb(2 x 4gb) of G.skil 1600 ram is only $99 total:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It is cheaper and better than 4 x 2gb.

Have you considered assembling this yourself?
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March 2, 2011 1:58:46 AM

also trying to keep price around 1,200 or so before shipping(but if need be a little higher)
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March 2, 2011 2:00:24 AM

I can't really do a self assembly. I am disabled and don't get around too well right now,plus just had surgery on arm and can't use it for awhile
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March 2, 2011 2:01:09 AM

At that price Im thinking go with the 4GB now and add more when you need it. You might not ever need it, for the life of your system.

The CPU cooler prices are quite good actually. Cyberpower isn't gouging you extra and offering good parts.
If you're interested in a slightly quieter @ idle cooler that performs equal. Thermaltake FRIO Cooler is $2 less.
Here is a Frio review that also has the CM V6 GT.
Honestly, they're both so close together you can go with the one you like the looks of best.

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March 2, 2011 2:01:35 AM

how would just going with 4 gb now then upgrading to 8 down the road be?
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March 2, 2011 2:03:06 AM

How are you doing on the overall cost?
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March 2, 2011 2:03:32 AM

lol made my last post then saw yours...so 4 it is for now.
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March 2, 2011 2:04:57 AM

gatonius said:
I can't really do a self assembly. I am disabled and don't get around too well right now,plus just had surgery on arm and can't use it for awhile

My sympathies, a very good reason for not DIY. But, a local computer shop would build you one for $100 or so, particularly if you bought the parts from them.
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March 2, 2011 2:06:16 AM

Well; CM V6 GT @ NewEgg is $60. Frio is $50.
Either way you're getting real bargain at only $42 V6 GT / $40 Frio upgrade cost.
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March 2, 2011 2:09:14 AM

so if you wre picking a cooler which would you go with...considering ease of blowing out dust etc also
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March 2, 2011 2:11:29 AM

so far doing good on budget just about 20 over
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March 2, 2011 2:28:00 AM

probably the one with the single fan to keep clean... the Frio V6 GT has two fans.

Excellent. We see a lot of builds go over budget.
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March 2, 2011 2:32:45 AM

You guys have really helped me a lot.
I think I'll stick 4gb ram for now....after I get pc I can get the ripjaws and just talked to a bud on phone who has same mobo. He said if I went to the ripjaws 8gb he would buy the 4gbs kingston off me
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March 2, 2011 2:32:58 AM

Extra case fan for the 912 case.....looks like all the small details are covered too.
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March 2, 2011 2:34:40 AM

So looks like I have decided on my build...I really appreciate all the help guys...so much so I'm having a problem picking the best answer now...lol

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March 2, 2011 2:41:18 AM

so overall it looks like a good case choice or do you see a better one I could go with?
w/o a big price jump that is
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March 2, 2011 3:03:09 AM

Looking over the few there......think thats a good choice and a good price.
I'd keep it on your list.
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March 2, 2011 3:08:16 AM

ok good to go
doing the max fan upgrde for it also
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March 2, 2011 3:18:09 AM

OK pain killers are kicking in and I need to lay down for a bit. TY guys for all your help. I will check back in later to see if you have added anymore suggestions before I pull the trigger on the buy.
TYVM again guys,Tom
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March 2, 2011 4:58:52 AM

You can skip the max fan upgrade if it's just for cooling. It's not needed.
If you're looking to add to the system looks? That's OK too.
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March 3, 2011 1:00:58 AM

Best answer selected by gatonius.
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