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March 2, 2011 12:46:35 AM

im looking into building my first gaming rig, i want something upgradable and powerful

Case:
COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case COOLER MASTER

Motherboard:
ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Graphics Card:
2X ASUS ENGTX570/2DI/1280MD5 GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

PSU:
COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold Series RSC00-80GAD3-US 1200W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS


CPU:
Intel Core i7-960 Bloomfield 3.2GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601960

Ram:
2X Kingston HyperX T1 Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory Model KHX2000C9AD3T1K3/6GX


Hard Drive:
2X Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive


Optical Drive:
SONY Black Blu-ray Burner SATA BWU-500S
HP 24X SATA Multiformat DVD Writer SATA Model HP1270I/1270VI LightScribe Support

OS:
1 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders


i want to run 2 of the gtx 570s in sli with 2d surround on 3X 25" Hannspree hf255hpb but im concerned about cooling for the video cards

anyone have any experiance with a similar setup or any opinions?

this is my first build and i have done lots of research but its always helpful to have opinions from people who know what they are doing; i welcome any opinions to make it better/more effective etc

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Anonymous
March 2, 2011 1:30:27 AM

Wait For Sandy Bridge! It will arrive soon
i5 2500K beats i7 950 heads down in gaming
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March 2, 2011 7:54:20 AM

If just for games and since multi display on the table

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6970-rade...
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But wait, there’s more. What about the Radeon HD 6900s in CrossFire? After all, AMD claims to have made some notable improvements to its scaling.
You’re only going to buy two high-end graphics cards if you’re running at the top resolutions with visual details maxed out. That’s where the 2 GB frame buffers featured on both 6900-series cards come in handy. In many cases, two $300 Radeon HD 6950s outperform a pair of $350 GeForce GTX 570s, saving you $100 total for better frame rates.

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Anonymous
March 2, 2011 8:27:07 AM

i5 2500K with a P8P67 PRO
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March 2, 2011 8:31:25 AM

pballa115 said:
the i7 seems to beat out the i5 by a little bit.

Well if you look at this result, i'm sure you wont say that.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=100

And most people switch off "hyper threading" when they over clock for a more stable oc. So at the end, the when Ht is turned off, you are almost turning it into an i5. The only difference being that i7 has a slightly bigger L3 cache.
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March 2, 2011 9:17:14 AM

I should have specified, I was talking abut the I7 2600 vs the I7 2500 the i7seemed a little better in some areas.

Why wait till april if they are out now?

Does having a larger L3 cache make much difference?
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March 2, 2011 9:28:58 AM

I looked up the p8p67 it seems to be discontinued how's the ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Only thing is it only holds 4 sticks of memory
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Anonymous
March 2, 2011 10:18:46 AM

pballa115 said:
I looked up the p8p67 it seems to be discontinued how's the ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Only thing is it only holds 4 sticks of memory


It doesnt support LGA 1155 Cpu's
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March 2, 2011 10:42:36 AM

With what happened lately, I would really wait until jumping on the Sandy Bridge wagon.
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Anonymous
March 2, 2011 10:45:56 AM

IF YOU CANT WAIT FOR SANDY BRIDGE

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SAPPHIRE 100312SR Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
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SAPPHIRE 100312SR Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
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AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX
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CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C9
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Subtotal: $971.91 After Rebates

Also you have enough room to buy 3 monitors for EYEFINITY
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March 2, 2011 11:14:23 AM

Most have hit 1156 by accident.

What is sandy bridge? They had i5 2500 on new egg.
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March 2, 2011 12:43:06 PM

Its the 2nd generation of CPU's from Intel
1) they are faster than the previous generations (i5 2500k being faster than majority i7 9xx series)

2)Sandy Bridge means the place where they were developed(development facility), the previous generation for example "Clarkdale" is where they were developed.

3)The 2nd generation uses a different type of motherboard(LGA 1155). Previous generation used LGA 1156 ( i3's, i5's , i7 8xx series) while the 9xx generation of i7's used LGA 1366 platform (This has 3 channel memory)

In my honest opinion wait another month till april and buy the 2nd generation of cpu. Another being that Ivy Bridge, rumored to be released early next year will also support the 1155 socket, which will be easier to upgrade.
Lastly, its a waste of money to buy 2 gtx 570 cards, all games will run in high with just a single card, it will also be a power hogger.
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March 2, 2011 2:30:32 PM

Awesome. So they are all ready out? Sorry im new to this
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March 2, 2011 11:24:57 PM

ok now im starting to understand, after a bunch of research lol, you guys where saying wait till april because of the issues with the chipset. ok, im thinking the ASUS Maximus IV Extreme any opinions on that mobo?
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March 3, 2011 12:10:08 AM

Ok thanks. I was looking on asus we bsite so I couldn't compare prices. P8p67 pro sounds pretty good too
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March 3, 2011 12:20:00 AM

P8P67 Pro = 180-190$

Extreme4 P67 = 150$

Either is sweet, I like the Extreme4 P67 better though. Cheaper and Asrocks a solid company.
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March 3, 2011 3:16:05 AM

redgarl said:
With what happened lately, I would really wait until jumping on the Sandy Bridge wagon.

If not a Sandy Bridge build, what build would you suggest to the OP then ?
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March 3, 2011 9:50:32 AM

I was looking at the p8p67 it says it can uses 2200 oc. Ram but on inters site the 2500 says memory types- DDR3-1066/1333. Does that mean anything over 1333 would be useless?
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March 3, 2011 4:44:38 PM

The one you are seeing are H67 motherboards, not P67
H67 are better for CPU's with locked multipliers as you cant overclock much with those motherboards. Also with H67 you can make use of the Integrated GPU in the processor, but cant do that with P67.
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March 3, 2011 6:35:18 PM

The p8p67 pro said it could run ddr3 2200 oc. But I was looking on intel's website and the i5 2500 said "memory types-DDR3-1066/1333" Does that mean anything over ddr3 1333 would be useless?
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March 4, 2011 7:52:23 PM

anyone know?
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March 5, 2011 4:32:57 AM

For sandy bridge, Intel makes 2 types of motherboards. P67 and H67

P67 motherboard =2200(O.C.)*/2133(O.C.)/1866(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066

H67 motherboard= 1333/1066

In order to overclock the CPU, you need to have Higher frequency RAM ( i suggest 1600mhz). But if your motherboard doesn't support 1600mhz RAM, then you wont be able to overclock much.
Intel also has 2 sets of CPUs, namely, i5-2500 and i5-2500k. The i5-2500 doesn't have unlocked multipliers, that means you can only overclock it using the FSB, but then again your RAM frequency supported by the motherboard isn't high enough. Therefore for the i5-2500 the H67 is good enough.

For the i5-2500k, you have unlocked multipliers and have higher frequency RAM supported on the motherboard, thus you can overclock it to as much as the processor can take. So for this CPU buy the P67 motherboard.
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March 5, 2011 4:42:45 AM

sync_nine said:
For sandy bridge, Intel makes 2 types of motherboards. P67 and H67

P67 motherboard =2200(O.C.)*/2133(O.C.)/1866(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066

H67 motherboard= 1333/1066

In order to overclock the CPU, you need to have Higher frequency RAM ( i suggest 1600mhz). But if your motherboard doesn't support 1600mhz RAM, then you wont be able to overclock much.
Intel also has 2 sets of CPUs, namely, i5-2500 and i5-2500k. The i5-2500 doesn't have unlocked multipliers, that means you can only overclock it using the FSB, but then again your RAM frequency supported by the motherboard isn't high enough. Therefore for the i5-2500 the H67 is good enough.

For the i5-2500k, you have unlocked multipliers and have higher frequency RAM supported on the motherboard, thus you can overclock it to as much as the processor can take. So for this CPU buy the P67 motherboard.

The RAM makes no difference in o/c with these 1155 mobo's. The 1155 is unlike any boards before them.
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March 5, 2011 4:45:32 AM

Why_Me are you aware when BD will be released? I haven't heard any news but the rumor mill brews April. Do you have an idea?
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March 5, 2011 4:49:45 AM

aznshinobi said:
Why_Me are you aware when BD will be released? I haven't heard any news but the rumor mill brews April. Do you have an idea?

I haven't heard anything yet, AMD didn't even produce any benchmarks that the big tech show over in Hannover Germany. I would like to see some benchmarks on that cpu. Hopefully it's a good one.
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Anonymous
March 5, 2011 4:51:13 AM

BD will be released by April - May
Hope its cheaper than Sandy Bridge
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March 5, 2011 4:53:45 AM

Why_Me said:
The RAM makes no difference in o/c with these 1155 mobo's. The 1155 is unlike any boards before them.

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oh i haven't worked with those boards yet, so i was still under the impression it works the same way...
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Anonymous
March 5, 2011 4:55:18 AM

In Sandy Bridge P8P67 Pro Motherboard Due to CPU behavior, DDR3 2200/2000/1800 MHz memory module will run at DDR3 2133/1866/1600 MHz frequency as default.
You have OC you memory to get back to these frequencies.Hence DDR3 2200 OC
It will support any module from DDR3 1066 to DDR3 2200OC
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March 5, 2011 1:22:23 PM

ok, that help me make more senes of overclocking. the only thing i dont understand still is that the CPU -i5 2500K and the 2500 both say memory specifications: memory types: DDR3-1066/1333

i cant make sense of this because i thought the speed of the ram was based on the mother board more than the cpu

if the CPU can only handle 1333 but i put 2200 into the mobo it would only be making use of half the potential of the ram correct?

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=52210 here is a link to intels site for the 2500k if you scroll down just a little bit you can see what im talking about

thanks for everyone's help! ive always been capable with a computer but this is never stuff i learned
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Anonymous
March 5, 2011 2:17:12 PM

its just given so that people will not by mistake buy DDR2 Rams
It will support DDR3 1066/1333.....upto whatever depending upon ur mobo
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March 5, 2011 2:53:59 PM

okay, thanks alot!! now hopefully they will start putting on the new motherboards so i can start building lol
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March 11, 2011 10:32:00 PM

the asus p67 and H67 boards are for sale on newegg! just ordered my p8p67 deluxe
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