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March 2, 2011 7:14:27 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Have most of the parts, waiting on re-release of ASUS P8P67


Budget Range:around 1200


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Multitasking


Parts Not Required: Have mouse, keyboard and Windows 7 Professional 64bit that I'm reusing


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg and Tiger used mostly. Got a fan controller at Xionside


Country of Origin: USA


Parts Preferences: by brand or type (e.g.: I will be using Intel 2nd generation i5 2500k, and 1155 socket motherboard


Overclocking: Maybe, if I get more comfortable


SLI or Crossfire: Maybe when I have the cash


Monitor Resolution: I play on a 47" flatscreen tv (its awesome)


Additional Comments: Air cooled


Ok so, ya'll have helped me put this build together and I thank you for that. However I'm having some issues with fan controls. Well, they are more like concerns

Anyways here is the build

Case - RAIDMAX Arelous http://www.raidmax.com/chassis/aeolus.html

Motherboard - ASUS P8P67 Pro or Deluxe (not sure which one yet)
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=HMMvTCuBcZLfu2YL

CPU - i5 2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler - Coolermaster V6GT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - CORSAIR DOMINATOR 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMP16GX3M4A1333C9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PS - Visiontek 800watt 80bronze certified -
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Video Card - EVGA 560Ti Superclocked GeForce GTX -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD - Seagate Barracuds 7200 1TB hard drive -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Fan Controller - Thermal-Star LCD Media Panel 7-in-1 Card Reader / Fan Controller / Temp. Display (TS-T001) -http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8384/bus-175/Thermal-...

CD/DVD RW - ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=27-135-...

OK so, my questions are this. I want to use 8 fans with this fan controller. 2 from cpu cooler, 2 from top of case, 2 from front of case and the rear and side fan on the last controller.

I will be using NZXT 3 pin splitter cables - http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/premium_cables/cb-3p-y
6 of the 8 fans are these - http://www.xoxide.com/enermax-t-b-apollish-120mm-blue.h...
the other 2 are on the cooler itself

Will I run into power issues running 8 fans on this controller? Can I run 8 fans on it? If not, what it the best way to hook these up?

Also, my cd/dvd rw didnt come with cables either and I have no clue what cables to order with it. (im a noob I know)

I know, I'm all sorts of noob. I just need someone to look over the build and maybe help me with these questions.

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March 2, 2011 7:34:16 PM

Unless your in graphic design or an engineer, you really don't need 16gb of RAM. 8 is more than enough for gaming and normal usage. I'd also go with a DDR3 1600 cas 7 kit.

G skill has some nice kits in the Ripjaw and Eco line that do the above at 1.5v or less.

Not sure why you want that case or that many fans. More fans =/= better cooling, and it means more noise.

A HAF 922 with a side fan is one of the best cooling setups you can get, and doable for <$100.

A Raven 2 or Fortress 2 is much more expensive, but cools even better and is practically silent.

Fan controller wise, should be fine, but to be 100% sure you'd need to know what v regulators are used in it, and that's not listed.

HSF- If you're not OCing really no need for an expensive HSF. In fact, even if you are, a Scythe Mugen is more than enough for $40.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It doesn't work with RAM with tall heat spreaders though.
Another choice is the CM Hyper 212 Plus which will work with tall ram for $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSu choice is bad. Go with a seasonic, XFX, corsair or Antec TP or earthwatts. Look for 80+ bronze, silver or gold and active PFC.

ex. $100 xfx 750w BE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

optical drive wise, if it's SATA you need a SATA cable + SATA power connector. If it's IDE, you need an IDE cable + molex.
Any good PSu will have the power connectors for both.

IDE drive back


SATA drive drive back
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March 2, 2011 8:03:06 PM

banthracis said:
Unless your in graphic design or an engineer, you really don't need 16gb of RAM. 8 is more than enough for gaming and normal usage. I'd also go with a DDR3 1600 cas 7 kit.

G skill has some nice kits in the Ripjaw and Eco line that do the above at 1.5v or less.

Not sure why you want that case or that many fans. More fans =/= better cooling, and it means more noise.



Thank you for the drive clarification

As for the case choice, I didn't want a full tower, but I wanted some room for the video cards because I plan to SLI and I didn't want anything running hot. My current setup is VERY tight. the video card BARELY has room for the SATA cable to plug in. This case offers that space with the hard drive bays on the bottom and open in the middle.

I also plan for SLI and having 2 of the cards I have, I figured it would get pretty hot and wanted them to be cool.

Noise isn't too much of a factor to me but if your talking this thing sounding like a weed whacker than i will def be swapping parts
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March 2, 2011 8:28:06 PM

Case noise is determined by case fan quality. NZXT fans are generally as cheap as they come.

silverstone has top notch fans, Antec good, CM and Thermaltake are both OK.

Best bet is aftermaket fans. I generally recommend Scythe Slipstreams. Not the very best performance, but top notch reliability, easy to find, and large variety so you can choose one that fits the CFM and noise profile you want.

Case wise, HAF 922, CM 690II, Antec 900 all fit your requirements, though the 922 is closer in size to a full tower than a standard midtower.
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March 2, 2011 9:10:50 PM

I wouldn't buy anything w/ a Raidmax label. In mid tower, I'd get a Antec DF-35 or HAF-922 ....in full tower, I'd get the Antec DF-85 or HAF-X. Last week you could have had a DF-35 for the same price as the Aelus, but it's back up to its regular $120 price tag whereas the HAF-22 this week is down to $90 from $110 .... grab it. But if ya really into fans, ya might wanna look at this case which comes with 5 fans but lets ya add more for a total of 15 .... I think it floats about 2" above the desk when all fans running :) 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

Your Cooler pick is a great performer but it is very loud. Not a criticism, just want you to know going in. Check this review before making final decision:

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

RAM - That RAM won't fit in your build even w/o the includes fan thingie. Stick to low profile modules so that you have no interference issues w/ ya cooler. The fans thingie and tall heat sinks do nothing for the RAM's performance.

I'd do 8 GB now and only add a 2nd set if and when you determine necessary

$155 CAS 7 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$90 CAS 9 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$100 CAS 9 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$100 CAS 9 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If ya stuck on tall heat sinks, you might consider this:

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

It's a essentially a modded Asetek LLC550 (also sold under Corsair H50 label)

PSU - Skip the Visiontek and gran the XFX. The XFX gets a 10.0 rating same as the Corsair HX Series, Seasonic X series and Antec SG/CP series PSU's whicg cost laods more. I's a steal at $100 and is bigger than ya need for twin 560 Ti's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Thermal Max maxes out at 4 watts per channel. This one does 10 watts per channel.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Do not control the CPU with the Fan controller. If you adding your own PWM fans to a cooler, gonna need one of these:

Fan Cable - $8 - Akasa PWM AK-CB002 http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10350/cab-183/Akasa_P...

Fan control with the any of the aforementioned cases is not going to be a very big deal....at least not with two ... let alone one 560.

The cables for the DVD / HD will be in the MoBo box
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March 3, 2011 12:34:36 AM

Most parts are personal preference ,but you don't really need 16 gigs = 8 or 12 max will do fine for you (enough for gaming),so save some buck for larger case . Your choice is good ,but if it is packed it won't cool as good due to lack of space and it is not comfortable to work in tight case.

Good luck
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