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March 2, 2011 8:53:57 PM

have started doing research on my new SB build before Intel recalled the CPU.

Now,I will buy the stuff immediately after the new mobos becomes available....here are my partial choices.

1.CPU
Sandy Bridge 2500k, 2500k is much better than 2600k bucks/performance wise if you do not do a lot of graphics editing.


2.mobo(need advice)
now considering Sabertooth P67,I am not a fan of graphics BIOS but that is a bonus....anyone has good experience on Gigabyte P67 boards,how about their feature?? I do not care blue-tooth and ROG stuff and I only want the best craftship and best pratical feature(like two 16* channels,becasue I will do 2-way SLI on board),so no way I will consider ASUS Maximus.


3.RAM
Ripjaws X 8/8/8/21 decided 4gb*2


4.Cooler
Noctua-D14 any disagreement????absolutely no( only con of it is the color scheme,wish it is black)

5.Video Cards
EVGA GTX570 HD *2( I will buy KR models because it is 35 bucks cheaper each and I think 3-year warranty is sufficient,how is your opinion??)


6.Storage
SSD Intel 510 120gb( can not wait OCZ)
HDD Western Digital Black 7200rpm 500gb( it is stable according to reviews on Newegg)


7.PSU
Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold series 1000w
lowest price is 207 on amazon???anyone know where I can find a better price??


8.Case
Lian LI PC-P50-WB
awesome mid tower case,no reason to argue!!!!!!


9.Moniter
Dell Ultrasharp U2410
got a great refurbished one on Ebay for 320 bucks.




about 2400 in the end,really need advice on Mobo!!!!!welcome to any reply

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March 2, 2011 10:10:34 PM

This is probably a gaming build since you have a GTX 570?

For 2x GTX 570s one of the great 850W PSUs should be plenty of power.

MB; all P67/H67 boards that can do CFX/SLI do so @ x8/x8 (in some cases x8/x4). For x16/x16 you'll need to wait till the X58 replacement boards are available later this summer.
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March 2, 2011 10:20:32 PM

Correct, the 2500K should be the sweet spot for gaming just like the i5-750/760 was (or still is I guess).
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March 2, 2011 10:42:48 PM

$200 for a mid tower that doesn't even have a SSD drive bay and 3.0 SATA ? :ouch:  Lian LI should be a bit more honest in their marketing and rename that case "Hose Job ". Not trying to be a jerk on here...but seriously that case is one of the worst deals Iv'e seen in a while.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <----- more info, pics, and reviews of the Antec 1200 V3

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Full-Tower-Twelve-Hundred-V... $159.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Antec Full-Tower Gaming Case Twelve Hundred V3

Or this combo down below..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Price: $381.98
Antec Lanboy air Blue Black / Blue Computer Modular Case
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K

That Noctua you have is a great cooler, but this one down below is also ranked in the top ten on Frosty Tech just a few slots down from that Notua...and it goes with the blue color scheme. That and these cpu's run cool as ice compared to other chips so that Noctua isn't going to get you any higher of an o/c than this Zahlman down below.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $79.99 - $69.99 after mail-in rebate FREE SHIPPING
ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED

RAM ...all the reviews of these 1155 mobo's say the same thing, these boards work better with low voltage RAM...like 15v or less. The manufacturers even recommend low voltage RAM. These boards also default to 1866mhz no matter how high you go. That and RAM has ZERO to do with o/c these chips. It's left out of the game so to say. So in those regards... blue RAM heat sinks ftw... that and this RAM down below is tough to beat

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $134.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM

Mobo... The Gigabyte P67 UD7 rules the roost so to say but those boards go for $325 @ newegg...but you get everything but the kitchen sink with those boards including 16x & 16x for dual vid cards. With your budget...why not ? Otherwise Asus has one or two boards that run those cards @ 16x & 16x, and if you can get one of those for cheaper than the Gigabyte board, I say go for it. Cheaper the better when it comes to anything over $250 or a mobo.

Monitor..for gaming there's good monitors, and then there is the #1 monitor atm which happens to be that BenQ down below. If your going to have two high end vid cards in SLI your shooting yourself in the foot imo without anything but a 120mhz monitor. ...behold he BenQ LED backlit monitor with a response time of 2ms and 120mhz refresh rate...not to mention the other goodies it comes with. That monitor runs just under $500...try "Google Shopping" for the best deals on it.

http://www.benq.us/products/product_detail.cfm?product=... <---- more on that monitor

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/benq_xl2410t.htm <--- detailed and in depth review of that monitor
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March 2, 2011 10:45:03 PM

WR2 said:
This is probably a gaming build since you have a GTX 570?

For 2x GTX 570s one of the great 850W PSUs should be plenty of power.

MB; all P67 boards do CFX/SLI @ x8/x8 (in some cases x8/x4). For x16/x16 you'll need to wait till the X58 replacement boards are available later this summer.

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=... <----- more info on that Gigabyte motherboard

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1982&pageID=10017 <----- Review of that Gigabyte motherboard

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March 2, 2011 10:59:19 PM

@ Why_Me;
Fixed that post to make it clearer.
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March 2, 2011 11:06:06 PM

WR2 said:
@ Why_Me;
Fixed that post to make it clearer.

I could have read it wrong but iI thought it says in that Bjorn review that the Gigabyte P67 UD7 does 16x & 16x if you use PCI-E slots #1 and #3 on that board. I also read that in the forums over at the guru3d board.
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March 2, 2011 11:07:25 PM

I'll take a closer look. I suppose if Giga is doing it the rest won't want to be left behind.
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March 2, 2011 11:27:16 PM

I believe the ASUS maximus,WS revolution and Gigabyte UD7 models have NF200 chips installed,which means SLI config can run 16*2...

but I do not like the maximus model because it has a lot of bluetooth features that will be useless to me( overclock your PC with your cellphone,what a stupid feature!!) the UD7 is nice but it is too expensive....

I think my final pick will among P67 sabertooth,WS revolution and UD5..

thank you why_me and WR2

reply to why_me:

is ssd such a benefit??? I can just put my ssd in normal hard drive bay

what do you mean by 3.0sata?? I think sata is only related to motherboard.

that cooler is nice,maybe I will move to that from Noctua..

that lian li case is pretty nice as I think although it is old model.

reply to WR2:

this is a gaming build but i will do some graphics and professional usage(engine design)on it.Will a SLI config produce a lot of noise???I am a little worried......................
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March 2, 2011 11:34:57 PM

liao24hoho said:
I believe the ASUS maximus,WS revolution and Gigabyte UD7 models have NF200 chips installed,which means SLI config can run 16*2...

but I do not like the maximus model because it has a lot of bluetooth features that will be useless to me( overclock your PC with your cellphone,what a stupid feature!!) the UD7 is nice but it is too expensive....

I think my final pick will among P67 sabertooth,WS revolution and UD5..

thank you why_me and WR2

reply to why_me:

is ssd such a benefit??? I can just put my ssd in normal hard drive bay

what do you mean by 3.0sata?? I think sata is only related to motherboard.

that cooler is nice,maybe I will move to that from Noctua..

that lian li case is pretty nice as I think although it is old model.

reply to WR2:

this is a gaming build but i will do some graphics and professional usage(engine design)on it.Will a SLI config produce a lot of noise???I am a little worried......................


I meant to say USB 3.0 ports. lol

But ya Lian Li makes great cases and all but that case is not worth $200. Maybe $125 and that's pushing it. Right now if you want a case that has all the goodies, room to work with, and keeps everything cool... Cooler Master and Antec are leading the pack and have been for the past few years or so. Especially when you compare their prices to other case manufacturers. The CM HAF series and Antecs DF series are as about as good as it gets for gaming builds.

Also if I was going to get an SSD...I would limit myself to a 50gb for the O/S and that's about it. They are spendy for what they give you in return.
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March 3, 2011 5:17:45 AM

reply to Why_me:

I choose that case for a couple of reasons:

1. I do not want a full tower because my room is not so spacious and that model has a roomy inside compared to other models.

2.aluminum( I really want to try alumimum case and other brand models are too expensive),which gives a better heat dissipation,also.

3.usb 3.0 placed at the back of case is not a big deal.

4.how is ssd bay different from other HDD bay?I think it is not a big enhancement.

5.dominant good reviews on Newegg.
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March 3, 2011 5:19:30 AM

BTW,I do not want 3d feature of moniter at all

because I had bad experience when I was seeing 3d movies at theatres
( that is too dark to look through the glasses for my eyes)
if i am wrong,point it out!
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March 3, 2011 5:21:19 AM

I do not play FPS a lot,
mostly I play RPG( neverwinter,oblivion) skyrim is coming!!!!!!!
dragon age 2 is still some expectation....although I think DA1 is just so-so.
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March 3, 2011 5:36:06 AM

liao24hoho said:
reply to Why_me:

I choose that case for a couple of reasons:

1. I do not want a full tower because my room is not so spacious and that model has a roomy inside compared to other models.

2.aluminum( I really want to try alumimum case and other brand models are too expensive),which gives a better heat dissipation,also.

3.usb 3.0 placed at the back of case is not a big deal.

4.how is ssd bay different from other HDD bay?I think it is not a big enhancement.

5.dominant good reviews on Newegg.

A SSD bay isn't a big deal...a 3.5 bay" converter will do for that...or even duct tape for that matter. Rosewill has one for like $6 on newegg, but plan to pay more if you get an aluminum one to match that case.

Here's the deal, and I'm speaking from experience. Aluminum is great for heat dissipation, but air flow is where it's really at. I don't know if you remember when Cooler Master was making those $300+ Cosmo's cases that everybody and their brother thought were the best thing since sliced bread was invented...Anyways when Cooler Master came out with the HAF (High Air Flow) series it blew everything else away...and those cases aren't aluminum. It's all about air flow. I can get a CM HAF 922 mid tower for $100 that blows that Lian Li away and then some. Not only that but it runs quieter seeing how it uses 200mm fans.

http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6606 <--- that's the CM HAF 922.

I'm not knocking that case in your build, I'm just saying for what it offers it should be listed at $100 - $125 tops. There's a reason these most gamers use HAF's and the Antecs..it's not just because they are affordable and offer all the latest goodies, but they keep your rig cool. And when your running dual o/c vid cards along with an o/c cpu ...heat tends to be an issue.
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