What parts should I buy?

I want to be able to play World of Warcraft and Rift with high frames per second.

Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

Budget Range: $2,000 MAX (Well I can go $100 over if I must...)

System Usage: Gaming, I like MMORPGs and First Person Shooters

Parts Not Required: None, I need everything.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: What do you all suggest? Does newegg have good prices?

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: None

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: I'm not knowledgeable about computers so I don't know...

Monitor Resolution: Not sure, what do you all suggest for gaming?

Additional Comments: Is building a computer easy (I've never done it before)? What tools do I need for the job?

Thank you
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  1. I'm new, but the first thing I would recommend is to read all posts in this forum. 2nd, use the search feature and type something like "gaming pc" "gaming build" "2000 dollar gaming pc". Tons of info to be had. Then, when you have a better idea of what you need, post your parts list and the kind people here will critique it and offer additional suggestions. If you're lucky, someone might even post a complete build for you to work from. Have a great time, good luck.

    HF
  2. Parts List includes all 1st tier components. Case / PSU and MoBo sized for addition of 2nd GFX card and fan in SLI at a later date (XMas 2011 ?). MoBo should be back on newegg within a few days.

    Case - $160 - Antec DF-85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.591259
    PSU - $120 - Antec CP-850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371024
    Case Fans - Later - Antec 120 mm Fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835209006
    MoBo - $390 - ASUS P8P67 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.575884
    CPU - incl above - Intel Core i5-2500K
    Cooler - $40 - Scythe SCMG 2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185142
    TIM - $6 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835150080
    RAM - $155 - (2 x 4GB) Mushkin CAS 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226178
    GFX - $315 - EVGA GTX 570 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130613
    GFX - Later Same
    HD - $65 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
    SSD - $245 - Crucial RealSSD C300 2.5" 128GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148348
    DVD Writer - $22 - Asus 24X DRW-24B3L w/ LS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135221
    OS - $140 - Win 7-64 Pro OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754
    Card Reader $35 AFT XM-35U http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820176016
    Monitor - $180 - ASUS VE247H 23.6" LED http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236112
    Keyboard - $65 - Logitech G110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126087
    Mouse - $53 - Logitech G500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104318

    Total is $1991

    Now the why's ....

    - Case is large with excellent ventilation, superb features for cable routing, has intake air filters fro dust control, has slide in drive bays for storage (HD's and SSD's), has opening in MoBo tray for easy CPU cooler mounting, has external hot swap drive bay for moving lotsa data quickly. I it 'ain't your thing, look at the HAF-X. Twin 570's is a bit tight on a midtower but if that's where ya wanna go, the HAF-922 and Antec DF-35 are my fav's. Antec Lanboy Air is an interesting case but perhaps not for a first timer.

    - PSU is the "bomb" .... 10.o performance rating on jonnyguru.com / Editor's Choice pick on silentpcreview.com The reviews say it all:

    http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=142
    http://www.silentpcreview.com/article971-page7.html

    If you go with any of ten other cases, choices include other 10.0 PSU's .... Corsair HX850 / AX850, Antec SG-850, Seasonic X-850, and XFX Black Edition 850. The last would be the way to go (no brainer - same quality / performance, less $) as it's substantially less expensive than the others.

    MoBo / CPU - Read the reviews ..... best bang for buck combo. Asus quality, performance just under 2600k flagship for $100 less. If ya wanna step up, consider the Asus Sabertooth TUF with its militarized components and 5 year warranty or the if ya wanna go nutz .... the WS Revolution.

    http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-sabertooth-p67-tuf-review/
    http://www.guru3d.com/news/asus-p8p67-ws-revolution-/

    Cooler - Drop this if ya sure ya not going to OC but when ya read the above article on the Sabertooth and see both how easy it is and what it gets ya, I think you will be hooked. the Scythe is a low cost unit that competes with the big boys and the Shin Etsu is the top TIM on the market. If ya wanna try something a bit easier to install, and are intrigued by "self contained liquid cooling", look at the Kuhler 620

    http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=694&Itemid=62
    http://store.antec.com/Product/cooling-cpu_cooler/kuhler-h2o-620/0-761345-77085-9.aspx

    RAM - You had the budget so I went with the fastest CAS 7 modules .... ya can save $55 dropping down to CAS 9 DDR3-1600. Just stick to low profile (no tall heatsinks) and you''ll be fine.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145324
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226099

    Ya can ignore the RAM heat sink issue if ya use the Kuhler.

    GFX - This card gets a steep price drop cause the warranty is only 3 years ... after 3 years, I don't care, I'll have moved on. In other words, same most others .... for example:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121432

    If ya want that EVGA "Limited Lifeime" warranty, consider on of the $350 onest
  3. Part II

    Questions:

    1. Yes newegg has good prices and great customer support.

    2. SLI / CF has capability of extending your system life another 18 months are so by just about doubling GFX performance. For example, look here:

    http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-570-sli-review/9

    Metro 2033 is just about the most demanding game there is right now and the 570 garners 27 fps in this test @ 1920 x 1200 which is just above the generally considered minimum play level of 3 fps. But in SLI, it jumps to 54 fps. Other titles improve as follows:

    CoD-MW - 148 -> 230
    BF-BC2 - 56 -> 103
    Dirt 2 - 80 -> 138
    FarCry2 - 85 -> 153
    DoC - 74 -> 109
    Crysis Warhead - 54 -> 86

    As you can see 1 card gives you plenty of juice to play the most popular games .... but putting a 2nd card in say as a XMas present to yourself in 9 months when the price drops significantly, will allow you to boost up your performance for the new games which will arrive during shopping season.

    3. 1920 x 1080 is good for HD movies and the current gaming standard.

    4. If you prepare yourself ... that is properly educate yourself before starting and don't rush through it, it's actually quite easy. Most "My machine won't boot" messages we see on the boards result from rushing, either:

    a) Rate my build, I'm placing order in 1 hour" posts in which good advice gets posted 70 minutes after the post was made and mismatched parts ordered.

    b) "I didn't RTFM" - Download all the manuals from component vendor web sites the day you place your order. Print them out and place them in a 3 ring binder. Read them ... cover to cover. Use a yellow highlighter to highlight important steps. Your case and MoBo manual contain just about all the instructions you need.

    c) "Duh" .....

    - Did you remember to plug the 8 pin (or 4 pin) EPS power connector into the CPU power socket on MoBo ?
    - Did you remember to plug the CPU fan into the PWM fan header on MoBo ?
    - Did you remember to plug the 6 or 6+2 power power connectors to the GFX card(s) ?
    - Did you remember to plug the RAM modules into the correct slots ?

    Tools should include:

    - Good "Mini" Screw driver set (phillips head)
    - Good small screw driver set
    - Set of plastic ties to secure wires and cables
    - Good set of "dykes" (nail clipper will do in a pinch - to clip plastic ties)
    - Dropped Screw Grabber Thingie
    - Digital Multimeter (nice to have but not necessary)
    - Flashlight
    - Directional lamps(s)
    - Isoprpphly alcohol
    - Lint Free wipes

    Nice Starter Set
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16896775041

    Starter Meter
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16896763011

    Clip on lamp
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16848023115&Tpk=lamp%20clip-on
  4. I found a pre-built PC which is "the first gaming computer designed specifically for World of Warcraft." What do you all think of it? I'm having second thoughts about building a PC.

    Current Parts In System:
    Case: Antec 900 Mid-Tower Gaming Case
    Power Supply: 650Watt HEC Zephyr Power Supply
    Motherboard: eVGA nForce 650i Ultra T1, Socket 775, 7.1-Channel Surround Audio, PCI Express, Gigabit LAN, USB 2.0 / Serial ATA / RAID
    Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 2.33GHz 4MB Cache 1066MHz FSB
    CPU Cooling: Intel/AMD Certified Low Profile, Silent CPU Cooling
    Memory: 2GB - 2 x 1GB DDR2 800MHz Peak Memory
    Video Card: Nvidia GeForce 8400GS 256MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready
    Hard Drive 1: SATA II 250Gb 7200RPM 8MB
    Hard Drive 2: None
    Hard Drive 3: None
    Hard Drive 4: None
    Optical Drive 1: CD-RW / DVD Combo (Black)
    Optical Drive 2: None
    Sound Card: Onboard Sound
    Network Card: Killer NIC K1 10/100/1000Mbps PCI Network Adapter with a 333 MHz Network Processing Unit (NPU) 1 x RJ-45, 1 x USB2.0
    Removeable Media: 1.44Mb Floppy (Black)
    Keyboard: None
    Mouse: None
    Monitor 1: None
    Monitor 2: None
    Software: None
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition with Microsoft CD
    Warranty: 1 YEAR PARTS & LABOR DESKTOP DEPOT WARRANTY
    System: Widow of Warcraft Gaming Desktop
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  6. morgothaod said:
    I found a pre-built PC which is "the first gaming computer designed specifically for World of Warcraft." What do you all think of it? I'm having second thoughts about building a PC.

    Current Parts In System:
    Case: Antec 900 Mid-Tower Gaming Case
    Power Supply: 650Watt HEC Zephyr Power Supply
    Motherboard: eVGA nForce 650i Ultra T1, Socket 775, 7.1-Channel Surround Audio, PCI Express, Gigabit LAN, USB 2.0 / Serial ATA / RAID
    Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 2.33GHz 4MB Cache 1066MHz FSB
    CPU Cooling: Intel/AMD Certified Low Profile, Silent CPU Cooling
    Memory: 2GB - 2 x 1GB DDR2 800MHz Peak Memory
    Video Card: Nvidia GeForce 8400GS 256MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready
    Hard Drive 1: SATA II 250Gb 7200RPM 8MB
    Hard Drive 2: None
    Hard Drive 3: None
    Hard Drive 4: None
    Optical Drive 1: CD-RW / DVD Combo (Black)
    Optical Drive 2: None
    Sound Card: Onboard Sound
    Network Card: Killer NIC K1 10/100/1000Mbps PCI Network Adapter with a 333 MHz Network Processing Unit (NPU) 1 x RJ-45, 1 x USB2.0
    Removeable Media: 1.44Mb Floppy (Black)
    Keyboard: None
    Mouse: None
    Monitor 1: None
    Monitor 2: None
    Software: None
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition with Microsoft CD
    Warranty: 1 YEAR PARTS & LABOR DESKTOP DEPOT WARRANTY
    System: Widow of Warcraft Gaming Desktop

    Case --good :D
    PSU --Iffy at best :non:
    Mobo & CPU -- obsolete the I5-2500K will smoke it. :ouch:
    memory --you need 4GB at least. 8GB & a 64-bit OS are recommended :sol:
    Video card --- Weak at best, :sleep:
    Hard drives --When you can get a 1TB HDD for less than $70.00 Why bother with 250 GB? :hello:
    Network card --Nice card... I don't think you will see ANY noticeable improvement in gameplay over the integrated network port. :sleep:
    removable media --- nobody uses 1.44MB floppies anymore. :pfff:

    How much are they charging for this "specially designed" behemoth?
  7. As a system builder on the side i do up cheapo SC2/WOW boxes all the time It makes perfect sense if all u do is surf the net and number crunch but just play 1-2 games. If you a HC gamer playing several titles then ya go blow $2k hehe Although it's a tall order to play Ultra + AA on cheapo boxes u can actually play "good settings" WOW with something like an AthlonII X3 + 9800GT/HD 4830/HD 4850/GTS 250 so that pre built u would have to tone down settings real low cos a GF8400 = LOL
  8. clarkjd said:


    How much are they charging for this "specially designed" behemoth?


    It was either $1800 or $1900. Anyways, I think I will buy a pre-made one. What do you all recommend?
  9. morgothaod said:
    It was either $1800 or $1900. Anyways, I think I will buy a pre-made one. What do you all recommend?

    I would be very surprised if the parts in that pre-built would cost more than $900.00 So, you see they are charging you almost $1000.00 just to put it together for you! :o

    You can spend your money however you want to, but I wouldn't give them $1000.00 to assemble a PC! :non: :pfff:


    EDIT: I just went to Newegg and priced the components listed in that "Specially designed" build and only spent $650.00, and I had to upgrade some components because I couldn't find any as bad as in the list! :fou:
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