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Looking to upgrade GPU from 8800gts

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December 30, 2010 4:31:36 PM

Hi all, this is my first post here.

Im looking to upgrade my GPU.

Specs:
Asus p5 w dh deluxe motherboard
Antec Neo HE500 (500Watts) PSU
E8400 CPU
Club 3d geforce 8800 gts (300 something gb ram)
4 GB g skill ddr 2 ram
Cooler master Mystique chassis
Windows 7 (32 bit)
Samsung Sync-Master 930bf monitor (1280*1024)

Let me start by describing my GPU woes. I bought the 8800 gts just before the launch of 8800gt which performed better at a lower price (in Denmark the price was lower, anyway). Off to a semi bad start. I then had to RMA it once due to a faulty card. Since then it has worked so so. It heats up to 80+ degrees Celsius when I play games (call of duty, wow, CIV 5), and I often experience graphical glitches and have never been able to play with the amount of details that reviews on the internet suggested.

Anyway… Im looking to upgrade now and a very important factor in that regard is the ability to run sound directly from the new card via HDMI to my Panasonic 42 inch flatscreen without connecting it to the onboard soundcard. Something I have been unable to get to work with my current GPU. I would also like to be able to play the games I play in as good quality as possible. I will be upgrading my monitor along the road somewhere, but not to something insane (22 inch maybe).

So with my current setup what would be a suitable GPU? I have only considered radeon cards as
I know that they carry sound via their HDMI, im not sure where Nvidia stands on that issue (SPDIF cables still needed?).

I’m seriously considering asus or Sapphires 6850. Which corresponds with my budget.

Any help much appreciated.

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a b U Graphics card
December 30, 2010 4:35:17 PM

6850 sounds great. You could look into the 460 1GB too for around the same price.
December 30, 2010 4:40:23 PM

But does Nvidias cards carry sound through their HDMI outlet? I have no idea what to look for in the specs of the cards to gain this info.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
December 30, 2010 4:43:29 PM

papafisk said:
But does Nvidias cards carry sound through their HDMI outlet? I have no idea what to look for in the specs of the cards to gain this info.

Yes, they do.
December 30, 2010 4:44:29 PM

Well crap :)  Now I have to read up on their cards aswell :) 
a c 611 U Graphics card
December 30, 2010 4:49:53 PM

The GTX460/450's and the GTX570/580's carry sound directly through HDMI to your speaker hook-up.
a c 376 U Graphics card
December 30, 2010 4:56:01 PM

Yeah, as of the Fermi cards Nvidia has sound through HDMI as well.
December 31, 2010 2:41:53 AM

Been reading up a bit and it seems the gtx 460 is on par with the 6850 both perfomance and price wise. Im still leaning towards the 6850 due to slightly lowerr power usage and more display output options.

Does anyone have any experience with the Asus direct CU? Apparently it runs pretty quiet and cool at the same time. Please comment, my buying finger is twitching :) 
a b U Graphics card
December 31, 2010 4:37:09 AM

ASUS DirectCU coolers are great.Both the GTX 460 and the HD 6850 are available which use the DirectCU cooler.
December 31, 2010 4:47:54 AM

Allright, im gonna try to get my hands on one of those (6850) Asus directCU.
December 31, 2010 5:38:25 AM

donot get ati,gtx 460 1gb ftw is way better,one from evga.better than 6870 and 6850,performance is close to gtx 470.
December 31, 2010 8:04:01 AM

mrjericho1991 that sounds exciting! Do you have a link or something so I can see the tests?
a c 376 U Graphics card
December 31, 2010 9:32:47 AM

The EVGA FTW card jericho is talking about simply has a factory overclock. It's nothing to get excited about. Both the GTX 460 and the HD6850 can overclock a very large amount but you can and should do it yourself as overclocking a video card is really quite easy. Rather than a factory overclock you should be looking for the best cooling to get the best OC on your own which once again points you towards the DirectCU cards. For the GTX 460 specifically there is also the MSI Hawk which designed for rather extreme overclocking. It's more expensive than a regular GTX 460 but usually still cheaper than the FTW card and it is a better choice.
a c 611 U Graphics card
December 31, 2010 2:02:11 PM

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

To help you read this, it's saying an overclocked GTX460 beats an overclocked 6850 pretty decisively, except for the highest resolution. They are also saying an overclocked GTX460 is in the range of an overclocked 6870 at lower resolution.

a c 376 U Graphics card
December 31, 2010 8:34:37 PM

That chart is a bit misleading. It is based on reference voltage OCs for the AMD cards VS the reference FTW which already has a bumped up voltage to go with the steep factory OC. The final core speed they got on the HD6850 is 130mhz higher(+13.4%) than what is used on that chart while on the FTW they were only able to go up 45mhz(5.3%) higher. Furthermore the article is VERY heavy on DX11 games(6 of the 8 benchmarks) where Nvidia cards tend to do better and one of the 2 that isn't is a TWIMTBP game. Also the chart is based on average frame rates and looking at the numbers they provide the HD6850 tends to fair better comparatively when using minimum frame rates which are more important IMO.
All of that said I do suspect the GTX 460 gains slightly more from a high OC than the HD6850 but the difference is much smaller than what is presented on that chart.
January 1, 2011 7:54:22 AM

The asus 6850 directCU is around 20$ cheaper than the evga GTX 460, and since I won't really need more power (right?) running at the resolution that I do im still leaning towards the 6850.

But thank you guys for the info.
a c 376 U Graphics card
January 1, 2011 9:15:36 AM

At your resolution either card of those cards is overkill. I would recommend scaling back to a GTX 460 768mb at least. This one is a quite a deal;
http://www.frys.com/product/6434002
It really isn't much weaker. At your resolution the HD6850 or GTX 460 1gb is only going to be 5-10% faster and most of that will likely come at frame rates that can't even typically be displayed on a regular monitor in most games.
January 2, 2011 5:55:10 AM

Wow, 90 $ is cheap! Unfortunately im in Denmark where the current price on that cards is 210$.

The difference between the cheapest gtx 460 768mb and the 1 gb is around 11$.
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