Selling 5830 to upgrade to radeon 6000 series

[vexun11]

Hello, my specs are in my signature, I have a Saphire radeon 5830 that runs just fine but I notice in games like crysis with max settings I need to overclock the card to 950/1300 to have steady 30+ fps and in metro 2033 to play max settings I have to overclock it so I really want to upgrade my video card so in the future I wont have to worry.

Would it be a good idea to sell the card now before it's worth even less then it is at now? The 5830's are still in the 175-230 range but I just saw a 6850 for 170$ that I really want.

What would be the best thing to do? Do you think the prices for ATI cards will go down even more? I am shocked to see how cheap everything is now, especially after spending 250 on my 5830.

How much could I get for my 5830 I guessing around 150$ because of its good condition and having the box for it in perfect condition.

Thanks!

 

[jaguarskx]

FYI.

A new HD 5830 can be bought for $140.

 

[hunter315]

When i quick check of newegg shows me two different ones selling for $170 with a $30 MIR, i wouldnt expect you to be able to get much more than $100 out of it since its now used and wont have warranty support for the next person.

 

[UberSentient]

The HD 5830 is comparable to a HD6870 and the HD6850 is comparible to a HD5770 according to CPU Magazine, A great publication...
So I would jump on a HD5870 for around $250.00 or get a second HD5830 if you have CrossfireX capability?
I purchased an HD6970 OCX and was no more impressed than My HD5870, so I returned the HD6970 and returned to using my HD5870.
I muself am waiting for the Bulldozer 3.2 Ghz aquivlant, 9-Series Chipset and HD7000 single GPU High End.

 

[vexun11]

FYI.

A new HD 5830 can be bought for $140.

Where can I get one for that cheap? Ive seen them for around 170. If that's the case then I might just get another 5830 but I am not sure if my psu will support 2.

I have a corsair TX650W psu, think it could handle 2 5830's?

 

[vexun11]

The HD 5830 is comparable to a HD6870 and the HD6850 is comparible to a HD5770 according to CPU Magazine, A great publication...
So I would jump on a HD5870 for around $250.00 or get a second HD5830 if you have CrossfireX capability?
I purchased an HD6970 OCX and was no more impressed than My HD5870, so I returned the HD6970 and returned to using my HD5870.
I muself am waiting for the Bulldozer 3.2 Ghz aquivlant, 9-Series Chipset and HD7000 single GPU High End.

Why would AMD come out with a 6000 series if the 5000 series is better? What's the point? I was all excited to see the 6000 series come out and now am upset that it's not as good..


This makes no sense. Please explain if you know.

 

[jyjjy]

The HD 5830 is comparable to a HD6870 and the HD6850 is comparible to a HD5770 according to CPU Magazine, A great publication...

It can't be that great if they are publishing the incorrect info you just stated. The HD6850/70 are both 30-40% faster than the cards you so they are comparable to.
Here is a performance chart for a high resolution that included the current AMD series;

If you can afford the $300 for an HD6950 it is a good choice because it can be unlocked into an HD6970 with a BIOS update;
http://www.techpowerup.com/137140/AMD-Radeon-HD-6950-can-be-unlocked-to-HD-6970.html

 

[JDFan]

Where can I get one for that cheap? Ive seen them for around 170. If that's the case then I might just get another 5830 but I am not sure if my psu will support 2.

I have a corsair TX650W psu, think it could handle 2 5830's?

Newegg has an XFX for $169.99 -$30 MIR so $139.99 after MIR

 

[vexun11]

It can't be that great if they are publishing the incorrect info you just stated. The HD6850/70 are both 30-40% faster than the cards you so they are comparable to.
Here is a performance chart for a high resolution that included the current AMD series;
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6950/images/perfrel_1920.gif
If you can afford the $300 for an HD6950 it is a good choice because it can be unlocked into an HD6970 with a BIOS update;
http://www.techpowerup.com/137140/AMD-Radeon-HD-6950-can-be-unlocked-to-HD-6970.html

What would be the smartest thing for me to do? Get a new card all together and sell this one, or get an additional 5830? I have a motherboard that has 4 pci-e slots so I should be able to run crossfire, not sure if I can do both at 16x, my motherboard is a GA-X58A-UD3R Gigabyte board.

My power supply is pretty good but i'm not sure if It can handle 2 5830's..

So why are the 6000 series cards less powerful then the 5000's? Why would they make new cards that arent as good? Why would they waste their money?

 

[JDFan]

So why are the 6000 series cards less powerful then the 5000's? Why would they make new cards that arent as good? Why would they waste their money?

ATI changed their naming scheme with the 6xxx series the 68xx's are now the mid range and the 69xx are the high end instead of the 5xxx series that had the 57xx as mid range and 58xx's as the high end cards. which makes them seem less powerful if you do not realize this and are trying to compare a 58xx series card to a 68xx series when the actual replacement card is the 69xx series.

 

[vexun11]

Why would they do that lol? I thought the 6xxx series was going to be a whole new introduction to direct x 11 making the Tessellation better and keep up with Nvidia.

The 5830 is horrible in games if you don't overclock it so that's what makes me not want to get another one to run in crossfire.

So with the 6xxx series are they going to be 68xx and 69xx only? or will there be something else? What was amd's incentive to do this? I'm assuming its for marketing but was it a good idea?

 

[JDFan]

Why would they do that lol? I thought the 6xxx series was going to be a whole new introduction to direct x 11 making the Tessellation better and keep up with Nvidia.

The 5830 is horrible in games if you don't overclock it so that's what makes me not want to get another one to run in crossfire.

So with the 6xxx series are they going to be 68xx and 69xx only? or will there be something else? What was amd's incentive to do this? I'm assuming its for marketing but was it a good idea?

I think the main reason for doing it that way was that they plan to keep the 5770 and 5750 around for awhile as their entry level - lower end cards so wanted to use the 6800 and 6900 for the newer mid and high end names -- so mostly something the marketing department came up with ! whether it was a good idea or not who knows but does seem to cause some confusion during the time that the 58xx series cards are still out there (but they are EOL soon so afterwards it might make more sense !) plus IIRC the fact that they were stuck using the same 40nm die size since the Fabs had problems with the 32nm die shrink so they will be going directly to the 28nm die size with the 7xxx series instead probably hampered the performance of the 6xxx series from what they originally had planned.

 

[vexun11]

Good info thanks,

Do you know when the 7xxx series is supposed to go public?

So with the 6xxx series all they are going to have are the 6800 and 6900? Just those 2?