AMD Phenom X6 1090T vs AMD Phenom II X4 840/965

[jackoboy9]

Hi Everyone,

I have a very hard decision here.

I have the Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160 and was wondering what sort of boost I would get by using the AMD x6 1090t processor. I will be gaming on Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (and Revelations when it comes out in November) and was wondering if I could use the AMD at high setting with no lag, as at the moment I have quite a bit of lag sometimes.

I have been told that the more cores isn't necessarily better for games, and that the Assassin's Creed franchise uses more CPU power than GPU. Am I right?

The Intel PCs are much more expensive. I would just like a processor which runs better than my current Intel Pentium Dual Core and is ready for any further gaming developments yet to come which uses more cores. I will be using the same GFX card that I have at the moment (ATI Radeon HD 5670 1GB) for any PC that I buy.

I am on a <£310 budget.

The PCs I am looking at are:
1. Phenom II x6 1090t @ £300: http://bit.ly/js2CIg
2. Phenom II x4 965 @ £298.90: http://bit.ly/mTnhAe
3. Phenom II x4 840 @ £315: http://bit.ly/meGTyb

The pros I can think about are:
PC 1: Cheaper. Future-proof. More cores. Ready for hard core programs.
PC 2 & 3: Have been complimented for better gaming. No need to spend 'more money' on 1090t, even though it is cheaper.

Please help! I am puzzled as to what to do.

Thanks.

 

[kajabla]

For gaming, you should get a better graphics card. Skewed toward CPU or not, AC (and everything else) will still need a decent GPU.
It's true that most current games aren't able to use more than four cores, and some can only use two. A 955 would do you well; a 965 isn't much better.
Are you set on buying premade? Custom would allow you to get a decent graphics card: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-pc-phenom-ii-radeon-hd-6850,2903.html
What's your max budget, and are you going to be playing any more demanding games?

 

[popatim]

Comparing cpus in gaming they are just about equal unless you happen to have one that can use the extra cores of the 1090t like bad company 2.
If you do any encoding (video or audio) or compression (zip files) then the 1090t will get used and do better here too.

Either AMD will be much better than the E2160
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=69

 

[$hawn]

Hi Everyone,

I am on a <£310 budget.

The PCs I am looking at are:
1. Phenom II x6 1090t @ £300: http://bit.ly/js2CIg
2. Phenom II x4 965 @ £298.90: http://bit.ly/mTnhAe
3. Phenom II x4 840 @ £315: http://bit.ly/meGTyb

The pros I can think about are:
PC 1: Cheaper. Future-proof. More cores. Ready for hard core programs.
PC 2 & 3: Have been complimented for better gaming. No need to spend 'more money' on 1090t, even though it is cheaper.

Thanks.

I'd get the 1090T, and forget the rest!! With a decent 3.2GHz clock speed [like the x4 955], or straight 3.6ghz turbo on upto 3 cores...its a BIG yes for games that uses 3 or less cores Also its comes in at almost the same price for u , barely £2 difference! Also, its solid future proofing; u don't noe how many cores will be needed in say 2-3 years down the road

The x4 840 is supposed to be very cheap!! is that £315 or £215 ??? but mind u, they don't have ANY L3 cache, so i'd stay away from it for gaming

 

[iam2thecrowe]

^why? with games in mind, 6 cores are a complete waste. a dual core i3 2100 will outperform that 6 core monster in 99% of games. Out of the processors your chosing go the 965. the 840 is crap, not enough cache.

 

[$hawn]

^why? with games in mind, 6 cores are a complete waste. a dual core i3 2100 will outperform that 6 core monster in 99% of games.

coz the i3 wasn't on his list, if he was open to intel, i wud have surely recommended the i5-2500 (K if he wants to OC)

 

[loneninja]

Of the 3 computers you listed, none come with anything for graphics except the integrated HD 3000, which is too weak to even run Assassins Creed. You'll be purchasing a dedicated video card to put in the computer.

Also if you didn't notice, 2 of those specifically say no operating system included, and the other doesn't mention if it is or isn't included, but since it doesn't list what operating system it comes with I would assume it doesn't include one either. So unless you already have a copy of windows, you'll need to purchase one.

Are those issues factored into this budget of yours?

 

[jackoboy9]

I have Windows 7 64-bit disc at home.

I've decided that I will be going for the 1090t computer (and for an extra 1 quid a 750W PSU). Thanks for all of your help.