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January 1, 2011 8:43:13 AM

Hello,
i bought a MSI GT 430 (dual fan edition which msi claims it can be overclocked 20% more) im currently sitting on a XFX 9600 GSO 768MB. i rarely upgrade my computer (like every 2-3 years) i mainly use my computer for gaming and i mainly bought the msi gt 430 because is $80 and it supports directx 11 and blu-ray, should i keep the 9600 gso or the GT430? :??: 

CPU: Q6600
RAM: 4GB


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January 1, 2011 8:47:29 AM

The GT 430 IS faster than the 9600 GSO.
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January 1, 2011 8:50:35 AM

Tamz_msc said:
The GT 430 IS faster than the 9600 GSO.

thank you for your response, i was scared that the 9600 GSO was faster because the GT 430 that i bought is on its way for delivery to my home and i read different post that said that the GT 430 was terrible and all that(which i dont care, the only thing i care was if the 9600 gso was slower or faster than the GT 430). lol
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January 1, 2011 9:13:35 AM

The GT430 is slower then the GT240. The GT240 is very similar to the 9600GT. The GOOD 9600GSO is just another name for the 8800GS, which is also close to the 9600GT. Odds are good if you have 768MBs on that card that you have one of the mediocre 9600GSOs so its slower then the 8800GS. Most 768MB cards had either DDR2 ram, or 46 (or was it 48?) stream processors. There were a few 9600GSO with 768MBs of ram that had 96SP and DDR3 ram. If you have one of those, the GT430 will be slower. If you have the more common DDR2 or 46 ot 48SP 9600GSO, the GT430 will be faster.

In either case because we are talking about cards that are similar to the 9600GT, performance between them won't be great. I doubt you'll be blown away by the increase in performance. For just a touch more money you could have done much better.
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January 1, 2011 9:15:39 AM

If that picture is of the 9600 GSO that he owns, it is the 48 SP 768MB DDR2 version, which is slower than the GT430.
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January 1, 2011 9:18:35 AM

YEAH! i got the DDR2 version!
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a b Î Nvidia
January 1, 2011 9:19:44 AM

If this is his card its another one on me.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DDR2 with a 192bit interface, but the full 96SP. Memory bandwidth is still crap so the GT430 will probably be slightly faster.

Edit: Took another look at that card I linked. Its very close, but different then the card he linked. The number of caps and position on the back half of the card are wrong/off.
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January 1, 2011 9:22:28 AM

you are right thats the one i got! thank you for your help! :D 

the 9600 GSO i got is DDR2 and the GT 430 DDR3..hmmm i see now why the GT 430 is faster :p 
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a b Î Nvidia
January 1, 2011 9:24:28 AM

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hmmm i see now why the GT 430 is faster


Really? Why is that? Just because 3 is bigger then 2?
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January 1, 2011 9:27:43 AM

4745454b said:
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hmmm i see now why the GT 430 is faster


Really? Why is that? Just because 3 is bigger then 2?

no, i forgot to check what kind of memory they got thats why...
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January 1, 2011 9:33:00 AM

Best answer selected by camargo2012.
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a b Î Nvidia
January 1, 2011 9:34:27 AM

He is actually right to be honest. If his 9600 GSO was DDR3 it would be the faster card. With DDR2 it is probably slightly slower
Anyway it is a very, very slight upgrade. I would return it unless you really need the more advanced A/V features. Even if you do spending so much money and barely getting an upgrade doesn't sound like a good idea to me, especially if you only upgrade every 2-3 years. It would be a good idea to pay a bit more for a GTS 450 or even an HD5670 is a significantly better card and also costs $80;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a b Î Nvidia
January 1, 2011 9:35:51 AM

4745454b said:
The GT430 is slower then the GT240. The GT240 is very similar to the 9600GT. The GOOD 9600GSO is just another name for the 8800GS, which is also close to the 9600GT. Odds are good if you have 768MBs on that card that you have one of the mediocre 9600GSOs so its slower then the 8800GS. Most 768MB cards had either DDR2 ram, or 46 (or was it 48?) stream processors. There were a few 9600GSO with 768MBs of ram that had 96SP and DDR3 ram. If you have one of those, the GT430 will be slower. If you have the more common DDR2 or 46 ot 48SP 9600GSO, the GT430 will be faster.

In either case because we are talking about cards that are similar to the 9600GT, performance between them won't be great. I doubt you'll be blown away by the increase in performance. For just a touch more money you could have done much better.

The GSOs with 384/768mb where the 96 shader 192-bit models.
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January 1, 2011 9:39:32 AM

jyjjy said:
He is actually right to be honest. If his 9600 GSO was DDR3 it would be the faster card. With DDR2 it is probably slightly slower
Anyway it is a very, very slight upgrade. I would return it unless you really need the more advanced A/V features. Even if you do spending so much money and barely getting an upgrade doesn't sound like a good idea to me, especially if you only upgrade every 2-3 years. It would be a good idea to pay a bit more for a GTS 450 or even an HD5670 is a significantly better card and also costs $80;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

BUT! i got an Nvidia motherboard! and i read that nvidia motherboards dont go well together with ATI(AMD) cards :(  oh well, i think i am going to sell it then, i will try to get the GTS 450.
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a b Î Nvidia
January 1, 2011 9:40:58 AM

You can't combine two of them together, thats it. Thats the only problem.
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a b Î Nvidia
January 1, 2011 9:46:26 AM

That isn't true at all. An ATI/AMD card should be fine. The only factor might be if your system is SLI capable you won't have the option of doing so with an ATI card. If you still prefer to stick with Nvidia and can afford a little more initial layout this GTX 460 768mb is only $90 after rebate;
http://www.frys.com/product/6434002
It is a full 3 times faster than the GT 430. Just make sure your power supply can handle it as it does use about 30 more watts than your 9600GSO did.
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January 1, 2011 9:51:15 AM

jyjjy said:
That isn't true at all. An ATI/AMD card should be fine. The only factor might be if your system is SLI capable you won't have the option of doing so with an ATI card. If you still prefer to stick with Nvidia and can afford a little more initial layout this GTX 460 768mb is only $90 after rebate;
http://www.frys.com/product/6434002
It is a full 3 times faster than the GT 430. Just make sure your power supply can handle it as it does use about 30 more watts than your 9600GSO did.

:o  i got a 700 watt PSU!
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a b Î Nvidia
January 1, 2011 10:02:54 AM

Then go for it if you have the money. It's really quite a deal. If you look around for prices on other models of the same card you'll find they are almost all $150+. Here is a performance chart;

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GT_430...
As you can see the GTX 460 768mb is up at 283% over your GT 430. That doesn't even take into account that the GTX 460 overclocks easily and well, usually over 30%.
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