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March 8, 2011 1:49:07 PM

Like the title says... I'm looking for input. I'm not set on anything besides I'm going with i52500k. I don't plan on overclocking right now, but I want the option down the road. I believe the motherboard works for overclocking, but I'm not really sure.

Also I may someday upgrade to 2 two video cards and mobo seems like it should sli, but again I'm not sure.

The case is one that looked like it was recommended pretty frequently which is why I picked it. Should I be expecting problems?

I have a 750w power supply which is why one isn't listed.

Lastly... I have no idea if there is any reason to get a windows 7 premium or ultimate. This machine is for gaming.

MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $179.99

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core
$228.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders $99.99

GIGABYTE GV-R695D5-2GD-B Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity $274.99

Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) $89.99

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $89.99

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $99.99

ASUS Black IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E818A4/BLK/B/GEN - $16.99

$1,080.92

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March 8, 2011 2:22:42 PM

Switch out that Asus optical drive for a SATA, switch out the RAM for low voltage RAM (1.5v) or less... Mushkin, G.Skill, etc... and combo that HD with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 OEM.
March 8, 2011 3:08:26 PM

Fill out form in sticky, link in my sig.

What country are you in?/where are you buying parts from?

Gaming, what games and what resolution?

Not sure what RAM kit that is, but I'd recommend cas 7 kit.
HD wise swap to a 1tb spinpoint F3. Much cheaper and just as good.

What PSU do you currently have?
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March 8, 2011 3:24:56 PM

banthracis said:
Fill out form in sticky, link in my sig.

What country are you in?/where are you buying parts from?

Gaming, what games and what resolution?

Not sure what RAM kit that is, but I'd recommend cas 7 kit.
HD wise swap to a 1tb spinpoint F3. Much cheaper and just as good.

What PSU do you currently have?



Approximate Purchase Date: Before 4/1


Budget Range: 1,200


System Usage from Most to Least Important: I'm basically purchasing because I'll have no chance at Skywind on current system. Monitor's native is 1680*1050


Parts Not Required: Power supply, monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers, nostromo :) 


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg


Country of Origin: u.s.


Parts Preferences: huh?

Overclocking: If I need to down the road.


SLI or Crossfire: SLI down the road. (I want the potential if I need to.)


Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050


Additional Comments: See first post.
March 8, 2011 3:48:54 PM

Power Supply I have is Silencer 750 EPS 12v Quad Blue. Is that going to be enough?
March 8, 2011 5:40:53 PM

skcid said:
Power Supply I have is Silencer 750 EPS 12v Quad Blue. Is that going to be enough?

That psu will do just fine for pushing two of these vid cards down below.

This build includes a factory o/c gtx 560 , after market cpu h/s, 8GB of low voltage RAM, Windows 7, etc..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $89.99 FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Price: $259.98
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Price: $250.98
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $17.99 FREE SHIPPING
LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $244.99
GIGABYTE GV-N560OC-1GI GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Price: $159.98 FREE SHIPPING
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

Total: $1,023.91 *not including shipping, rebates, etc..

March 8, 2011 6:24:25 PM

By skywind do you mean TES:Skyrim?

If so, no one knows actual requirements yet.
Regardless, with a $1200 budget, I'd fit in a 1080p monitor.

I'd wait a little on the mobo, instead of grabbing the MSI ones out right now. Should be more of em out by end of the month.

Exact combo's and stuff will be diff by end of the month, but general part list:

CPU
i5-2500k $229

Case
HAF 922

RAM
DDR1333 or 1600 kite with Cas 7. G Skill, $55 for 4gb kit. Can grab either 1 or 2 kits.
ex.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HSF
You can stick with stock and be fine with a 2500k, until you want to OC. SB is very cool running, in fact, anandtech pulled a 4.4ghz OC on stock cooling without any temp issue or voltage increase.

HD
Spinpoint F3 1tb $65

GPU
GTX 560 ~$240
ex. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical
Cheapest sata on newegg one is fine. ~$18

Mobo
I'd go for an Asus or GA. Something with dual x8 PCIe lanes. Figure ~$200
ex. Asus p8p67 evo
http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=erWGi4vbeZa8oxg8&...

OS
$99 win 7 64bit home OEM

monitor
21.5" 1080p monitor. $150
ex Asus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That'll put you at $1200 ish before any combo's and rebates.
March 8, 2011 6:49:03 PM

Wow. I got the name of Skyrim wrong. I'm ashamed.

Why the GTX 560 over the 6950?

Also why a 1gb card instead of 2?
March 8, 2011 6:57:28 PM

skcid said:
Wow. I got the name of Skyrim wrong. I'm ashamed.

Why the GTX 560 over the 6950?

Also why a 1gb card instead of 2?

They cost less, and in a few min. you can do a simple o/c with these cards. A o/c 560 will run on par with a 6950 yet it cost less.
March 8, 2011 7:00:34 PM

You indicated Nvidia preference is main reason. In practice, both cards are basically the same. Both are ~$245, a bit less with rebates. Performance wise they're essentially the same with one or the other depending upon game.

The only caveat to mention here is that the 2gb 6950 is available for $255 after rebates. Very tempting offer IFF you plan on going eyefinity down the road. It's also a great deal if you manage to turn it into a 6970 with a bios flash, though that's never guaranteed, so it's more of a potential bonus.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
March 8, 2011 7:04:24 PM

The only 2gb 560 on newegg costs 280 which is more than a 2gb 6950. For $30 the extra GB sounds cheap.
March 8, 2011 7:05:54 PM

banthracis said:
You indicated Nvidia preference is main reason. In practice, both cards are basically the same. Both are ~$245, a bit less with rebates. Performance wise they're essentially the same with one or the other depending upon game.

The only caveat to mention here is that the 2gb 6950 is available for $255 after rebates. Very tempting offer IFF you plan on going eyefinity down the road. It's also a great deal if you manage to turn it into a 6970 with a bios flash, though that's never guaranteed, so it's more of a potential bonus.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I listed the 6950 in my first post which is why I was surprised people had me switching to nvidia.
March 8, 2011 7:13:41 PM


"SLI or Crossfire: SLI down the road. (I want the potential if I need to.) "

We assumed form that you preferred Nvidia, since SLI is Nvidia specific.
March 8, 2011 7:17:48 PM

banthracis said:
"SLI or Crossfire: SLI down the road. (I want the potential if I need to.) "

We assumed form that you preferred Nvidia, since SLI is Nvidia specific.


fair enough. I just got lazy and should have typed SLI or Crossfire down the road.

Sorry about that.
March 8, 2011 7:58:03 PM

Doesn't the 6950 have the ability to flash the bios and make it turn into a 6970?
March 8, 2011 8:01:55 PM

As of now, only the 2gb 6950. It's far from guaranteed. In fact, I'd be shocked if it were even a 50% success rate.

Regardless, don't buy a 6950 hoping to get a 6970.
March 8, 2011 8:03:51 PM

I would agree. More reliability with the nvidia drivers. Plus cuda cores are always nice to have ;) 
March 8, 2011 8:16:15 PM

banthracis said:
As of now, only the 2gb 6950. It's far from guaranteed. In fact, I'd be shocked if it were even a 50% success rate.

Regardless, don't buy a 6950 hoping to get a 6970.


Even if it doesn't flash to 6970 I'd still have a 2gb card which should be good longer than a 1gb.
March 8, 2011 8:23:58 PM

skcid said:
Even if it doesn't flash to 6970 I'd still have a 2gb card which should be good longer than a 1gb.

I don't understand your reasoning on that. The gtx 580 doesn't have two gigs yet it destroy's the 6950, the gtx 570 doesn't have two gigs, yet it runs on par with a 6950, and the gtx 560 can be o/c to run on par with a 6950, and actually beats it in some games. So where does this 2gb come into play ? Maybe someone should fill NVIDIA in on this....
March 8, 2011 8:26:47 PM

Why_Me said:
I don't understand your reasoning on that. The gtx 580 doesn't have two gigs yet it destroy's the 6950, the gtx 570 doesn't have two gigs, yet it runs on par with a 6950, and the gtx 560 can be o/c to run on par with a 6950, and actually beats it in some games. So where does this 2gb come into play ? Maybe someone should fill NVIDIA in on this....


My reasoning is simple.

Tom's said 6950 2gb was recommended for the money and 2gb>1gb. Which is why I ask because I know my reasoning on this is quite childish.

/edit I suppose I should have ended my other post with a '?'.
March 8, 2011 10:30:08 PM

Not sure where the confusion is.

It's quite simple. If you plan on using eyefinity or resolution >1080p, ie 2560x1600 monitor, then you'll need 2gb. If you just plan on 1080p, then 1 gb is fine.

Tom's is basing their rec on the assumption that in the next year or two, most people will be gaming at >1080p.

On the flip side, there's a reason ONLY amd supports more than 3 monitors. The current Nvidia cards, even the gtx 580's simply do not have the RAM to support larger setups. Even then, 3d surround with 3 1080p monitors has RAM limit issues.

So basically, ask yourself, do you plan on using a multi monitor setup in the near future? If so then a 2gb card is worth the extra. If not, then 2gb vs 1gb make no difference.


The honest truth is that a this moment, neither the 6950 1gb nor the 560 is a better buy. They are for all intents equal. If you care about eyefinity vs 3dvision or CUDA vs stream then go with w/e one you want. If you want slightly lower temps and slightly less noise, go with 560, if you want lower power, 6950. Though OEM custom coolers will change this particular difference quite a bit.

560's are a little cheaper before rebates. 1gb 6950's cheaper after rebates. That's how they're priced right now and that's on purpose by both companies. Anyone telling you otherwise has a bias towards 1 company or the other.
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