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Best GPU for maxed out 1360x768 gaming?

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January 3, 2011 12:26:16 PM

Alright, so I'm buying a new graphics card for the system below.

Pentium E5300 Dual-Core OC'ed to 3.6GHz (stock 2.6GHz) (Not a P4! Actually a very fast processor!)
Corsair Dominator 3x2GB (stock speeds)
Antec 750w PSU
PNY GeForce 8500GT
Mobo is an ASUS P5Q Deluxe

Hard-disk and other stuff is irrelevant.

I'm looking to be playing most games maxed out. My monitor is a 19" and hooked up through VGA (I have a DVI to VGA adapter, so not a problem if the gpu only has DVI ports). I have my eyes on the 5850, but was wondering if that would be overkill considering the resolution? My budget is about 200$. Should I go for the much more powerful 5850, or go with a 5830 or a 5770?
a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2011 12:38:32 PM

A 5770 would be fine for that resolution.
Heck, even a 5750 would do great.
a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2011 12:44:26 PM

+1 to 5770.
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January 3, 2011 1:29:07 PM

On newegg the 5770 and the 5850 are actually priced exactly the same (150$) so should I still go with the 5770 or go with the 5850 for the heck of it?
a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2011 2:11:19 PM

Oh, then get the 5850 for sure!
January 3, 2011 2:15:03 PM

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Oh, then get the 5850 for sure!


Oh alright, thanks for the help.
a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2011 2:48:47 PM

The ATI 5770 and 5850 are both more than you'll need at such a low resolution. If you can get a 5850 for the same price, it's a good deal. However to make that card work to earn it's keep you really need a higher resolution monitor. The ATI 5850 could play @ 1920x1080 if you asked it to do so.

Are you using a 1080i HDTV as a monitor?
January 3, 2011 3:14:32 PM

jerreece said:
The ATI 5770 and 5850 are both more than you'll need at such a low resolution. If you can get a 5850 for the same price, it's a good deal. However to make that card work to earn it's keep you really need a higher resolution monitor. The ATI 5850 could play @ 1920x1080 if you asked it to do so.

Are you using a 1080i HDTV as a monitor?


The native resolution on it is 1366x768, but the box says 1080i. But yes, it's a TV, not a standard computer monitor.

For you to guys to get an idea of what I need, I'd like the card I get to be able to play Crysis at 1366x768 maxed out with 4x AA and maintain 30 and above FPS.
January 3, 2011 3:35:23 PM

yeah if you get 5770 or 5850,then yes it will
January 3, 2011 3:37:35 PM

wait a minute,why not you are choosing gtx 460,its great in everything you want as its faster than hd 5830,and very close i mean almost a hd 5850,you might see 3 to 7% performance difference.
a c 125 U Graphics card
January 3, 2011 4:06:08 PM

Damnit and to think I bought my 5850s only back in May for $299 and that was a good price.

Tho, they do kick ass :D 

And yeah a single 5850 is more than enough, I was playing Crysis at 1080p on High on a single card, Very High with two cards.
a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2011 4:12:00 PM

For Crysis in particular, going for the ATI 5850 is a good idea.

Depending on how you connect to your TV, and how it's image processing works, keep in mind it may not be as easy as "plug and play". Make sure to set your Desktop resolution to 1366 x 768 for best results. Then also make sure the TV is not set to a "Zoom" mode of any kind.

As soon as I read your resolution I knew you were using a 1080i TV. :)  You'll have a nice big screen this way, and may very well have great color contrast as well. But keep in mind it won't look as good as a high resolution PC monitor.
January 3, 2011 5:40:33 PM

jerreece said:
For Crysis in particular, going for the ATI 5850 is a good idea.

Depending on how you connect to your TV, and how it's image processing works, keep in mind it may not be as easy as "plug and play". Make sure to set your Desktop resolution to 1366 x 768 for best results. Then also make sure the TV is not set to a "Zoom" mode of any kind.

As soon as I read your resolution I knew you were using a 1080i TV. :)  You'll have a nice big screen this way, and may very well have great color contrast as well. But keep in mind it won't look as good as a high resolution PC monitor.


Thanks for the reply. The TV itself though has a VGA and DVI port though and output looks identical to regular PC monitors. I'm surprised though that people are gaming at 1920x1080 and even 2560x1200. Considering the monitor is right in front of your face. :na:  Anyway thanks alot guys, it seems like the 5850 is perfect for what I need.
a c 125 U Graphics card
January 3, 2011 5:55:29 PM

1080p is just so... beautiful tho! haha. Looks great on my 24" monitor.

I've plugged my computer into my TV once, I have a 40" (42?) 1080p Samsung LCD TV and I have to say it didn't look near as good although maybe I just needed to fool around with some settings more. Sitting back on the couch with my wireless mouse and keyboard, it was really tough to see what I was doing.
January 3, 2011 6:06:18 PM

wolfram23 said:
1080p is just so... beautiful tho! haha. Looks great on my 24" monitor.

I've plugged my computer into my TV once, I have a 40" (42?) 1080p Samsung LCD TV and I have to say it didn't look near as good although maybe I just needed to fool around with some settings more. Sitting back on the couch with my wireless mouse and keyboard, it was really tough to see what I was doing.


Yeh that's to be expected. Large monitors are great for movies and games, but 40" is overkill for Windows, lol. And although 1080p is really nice, 19" is good enough for me. :D 
a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2011 6:16:06 PM

wolfram23 said:
1080p is just so... beautiful tho! haha. Looks great on my 24" monitor.

I've plugged my computer into my TV once, I have a 40" (42?) 1080p Samsung LCD TV and I have to say it didn't look near as good although maybe I just needed to fool around with some settings more. Sitting back on the couch with my wireless mouse and keyboard, it was really tough to see what I was doing.


This comes down to the difference between TVs and LCD Monitors. Computer monitors tend to show a much finer detailed picture. There are more pixels, packed more tightly together. Therefore they're better for showing the finer details. Televisions are made to be larger, and viewed from afar. So they don't look as sharply detailed (especially if you're too close to them).

Computer monitors are meant to be viewed from "up close" by comparison.
January 3, 2011 6:23:33 PM

jerreece said:
This comes down to the difference between TVs and LCD Monitors. Computer monitors tend to show a much finer detailed picture. There are more pixels, packed more tightly together. Therefore they're better for showing the finer details. Televisions are made to be larger, and viewed from afar. So they don't look as sharply detailed (especially if you're too close to them).

Computer monitors are meant to be viewed from "up close" by comparison.


The display I have isn't just a TV with PC outputs slapped on it. It's designed to be effective in being a TV and a monitor alike. The pixel density is the same of that as a computer monitor.
a c 125 U Graphics card
January 3, 2011 6:42:39 PM

So it's a 19" LCD TV/Monitor?

Cuz yeah, having the same resolution at 24" and 40" makes it seem washed out and even blurry to an extent, but if it's 19" then it would be basically the same.
January 3, 2011 6:50:23 PM

wolfram23 said:
So it's a 19" LCD TV/Monitor?

Cuz yeah, having the same resolution at 24" and 40" makes it seem washed out and even blurry to an extent, but if it's 19" then it would be basically the same.


Yeh, pretty much.
a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2011 7:13:00 PM

Well kudos to you for playing @ 1366x768 on a 19"! LOL I don't think I could stand to play at such a low resolution anymore. I thought 1440x900 was awesome when I made that jump. But having gone to 1080p (1920x1080) I could never, ever go back.
January 3, 2011 7:50:13 PM

Anything above 18" inches for me is perfectly acceptable. Resolution...as long as it's native to the size I'm fine. What size is your monitor anyway, must be big to display native 1080p.
a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2011 7:54:57 PM

This 5770 is a great deal if you DO NOT want to upgrade to a full HD screen later. $115 after rebate and free shipping.
January 3, 2011 8:03:32 PM

plznote said:
This 5770 is a great deal if you DO NOT want to upgrade to a full HD screen later. $115 after rebate and free shipping.


Would it be able to run Crysis at 1366x768 maxed out with 4x AA and maintain 30+ and above FPS?
January 3, 2011 9:05:20 PM

jerreece said:
Well kudos to you for playing @ 1366x768 on a 19"! LOL I don't think I could stand to play at such a low resolution anymore. I thought 1440x900 was awesome when I made that jump. But having gone to 1080p (1920x1080) I could never, ever go back.


I care about graphics quality ALOT more than resolution, good AA and I'll be good to go :p 
a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2011 9:07:56 PM

Crecente said:
Anything above 18" inches for me is perfectly acceptable. Resolution...as long as it's native to the size I'm fine. What size is your monitor anyway, must be big to display native 1080p.


My 1080p monitor is only 21.5" :)  Not much bigger than your 19", but a much better image quality I'm sure. And you'd be surprised how inexpensive a 1080p LCD monitor is these days. Even a decent quality/brand one can be had for $130 to $150 if you shop prices.
January 3, 2011 9:15:55 PM

jerreece said:
My 1080p monitor is only 21.5" :)  Not much bigger than your 19", but a much better image quality I'm sure. And you'd be surprised how inexpensive a 1080p LCD monitor is these days. Even a decent quality/brand one can be had for $130 to $150 if you shop prices.


Aha, nice. I'll look at prices and if I see a good one I'll get it. I've decided on the 5850, because of the 256 bit and because it's much faster overall (and oc'ed its even exceeded the speed of much more expensive options). Also future proofing incase I decide to upgrade my monitor. Thanks for all the helpful replies guys.
a b U Graphics card
January 3, 2011 9:18:51 PM

Crecente said:
Aha, nice. I'll look at prices and if I see a good one I'll get it. I've decided on the 5850, because of the 256 bit and because it's much faster overall (and oc'ed its even exceeded the speed of much more expensive options). Also future proofing incase I decide to upgrade my monitor. Thanks for all the helpful replies guys.


I'd whole hearedly suggest a monitor upgrade. Just cause the image looks a TON better. However - Keep in mind, that if/when you make that jump to 1080p (1920x1080) the ATI 5850 is where I start my recommendations for graphics cards.
January 4, 2011 12:26:04 AM

Consider the 460 GTX 768 MB version from Galaxy. It's priced at $130 - $40 mail in rebate + tax = ~$100 after rebate. I got one at Fry's yesterday. It's gotten some good reviews, the 768 mb version, in terms of OC'ing headroom and quietness.
January 4, 2011 5:38:48 PM

well man why not you are looking at 4850s and 4870s they are cheaper and have great performance and they are on par with hd 5830s,gtx 460s and gts 450s.
a c 125 U Graphics card
January 4, 2011 6:15:25 PM

Because he can get a 5850 for $150? Seems like a damn good reason to me lol. It is much better than anything up to a GTX 460 1GB model, but is still *generally* better than that.
January 17, 2011 1:30:43 PM

How about HD6870?
with 1360x768?
March 26, 2011 3:47:05 PM

:lol: 
a b U Graphics card
March 26, 2011 3:55:02 PM

A 5770 would be your best fit. You can find them as low as 100-110 with rebates.

If you would to future proof, a 5850 or 6850/6870 would be recommended more for 1080p.
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