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Palit gt 240- in-game shadow problems

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Hi im using a palit gt 240 1gb ddr3....
im playing games like cod black ops,bf bad company 2, but when theres a cinematic is noticed that the shadows are not in high quality but my settings in-game are set to high..is this a driver problem?


Message edited by jMvillszz on 01-05-2011 at 12:57:00 AM
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This could as well be not enough GPU power problem. What resolution are you gaming at?

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i wouldnt reccommend setting details to high on that GPU.

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Reply to iam2thecrowe

i play at 1360x768 all high with aa and af on...
why is it bad to play high settings on this card?

Reply to jMvillszz

Your resolution is not high but then again the card is not very powerful little lower setting in game might give you a better experience. Those games need powerful GPU's to run at their max.

Reply to rolli59

k...so how do i fix the saw like shadows....thnx

Reply to jMvillszz

You can have high settings enabled on COD, but not on bad Company 2.

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Reply to Tamz_msc

ive tried it in bad company2 and cod black ops in high settings and res at 1360x768 it was playable, around 35 fps i think..pls i need help w/ the saw like shadows which i already set in high..

Reply to jMvillszz

two things wrong here:
1.) GT240 is not a real gaming card, it's not, med-low settings at best
2.) Palit sux anyways and you have the slow DDR3 version and not the DDR5 version
resolution:
1.) RMA that card if you still can and get a better performing card for which you can game at required resolution
2.) do not get Palit, Sparkle or Galaxy

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Reply to malmental

+1 to malmental. i have a card that will outperform that gt240 (8800gts OC) and its going on 4 years old now, and it wasnt a top end card (about the 3rd fastest card) when i bought it. That tells you something about the level of that gt240.

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Reply to iam2thecrowe

^ what the OP is saying is that he/she is experiencing weird shadows at playable framerates.So I won't say itz coz of a low-end card but yes a card may come faulty netym.
So for a suggestion I agree with rolli59 (power shortage) i.e. the PSU also needs to be taken into account or a possible RMA if thrz smthn with d card.A 400-450W PSU will be perfect to contain both the card nd watevr can b thr in OP's system


Message edited by Anik8 on 01-05-2011 at 11:29:31 PM
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maybe the card doesnt support the feature to enable high quality shadows even if they are enabled? I dont think bad shadows are a psu issue......

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^ report card back if turns out faulty(within warranty period) for a proper replacement
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iam2thecrowe wrote :

maybe the card doesnt support the feature to enable high quality shadows even if they are enabled? I dont think bad shadows are a psu issue......


but I've found it supports ambient occlusion.If this feature is supported then providing high quality shadows shouldn't be a problem least not in the healthy environment(system).


Message edited by Anik8 on 01-06-2011 at 08:18:00 AM
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my rig:
amd athlon II x2 245 2.9ghz
2gb ddr3 ram
palit gt 240 1gb ddr3

regarding the rma will it replace it with the same card or could i choose a different one?..

another question what would be the better gaming os for my rig, xp or vista?

i found the ambient occlusion on the nvidia control panel should i try turning it on?

Reply to jMvillszz

1) same :(
2) I hav trashed vista.I only use XP(work) and win 7(gaming n multimedia)
3)No.Never ur card is already not a low end one but lowest card of it own series(i.e. DDR3 instead of GDDR3/GDDR5).Ambient occlusion is best suited for cards lyk GTX 460 nd abv.


Message edited by Anik8 on 01-06-2011 at 03:26:40 PM
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so i cant fix this shadow problem?

Reply to jMvillszz

^
no, card is crap and palit is crap for gaming and at medium and above levels...
you need a better card, period..


Message edited by malmental on 01-07-2011 at 02:46:59 PM
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ive tried playing with medium settings but the problem is still there..

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just live with it. its not a faulty card but a fault with the game, drivers or just a limitation of that card.

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Reply to iam2thecrowe

limitation of that card...
when you upgrade to a real card for gaming you will see..

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Reply to malmental

k,so its the card...btw, what is this card's equivalent to 9xxx or 8xxx series?

Reply to jMvillszz

a real GT240 like the PNY GT240 DDR5 version or XFX GT240 DDR5 is better than a 9600GT low powered version,
slightly less than and sometimes equal to the 9600GT standard version and beats the 9500GT.
8800GT is slightly better in performance than the GT240 while the 8600GT is slightly less. 8800GT requires 1 or 2 6-pin/8-pin plugs.
the 9600GT standard version requires 1 6-pin power plug the 9600GT low powered does not.
also a 9800GT that is the better performer of them all and there are 2 6-pin versions and 1 6-pin versions.
there is also a rare 9800GT low powered version..


Message edited by malmental on 01-09-2011 at 04:59:00 AM
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9600gt is slightly faster than gt240, 8800gts (640mb) is about the same as a 9600gt. 8800GT is faster than all these cards.

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Reply to iam2thecrowe

has anyone used any of the cards u mentioned? do u also experience this shadow problem on new games such as cod black ops and bf bad company 2?

Reply to jMvillszz

I have used all the cards except for the 8800GT, the 9800GT will be used in the next few weeks as I complete my phys-x set-up.
out of all the possible nVidia cards for phys-x I chose the 9800GT because it's actually a sweet spot in gfx cards.
it can be a descent standalone card if needed.

 

XFX 8600GT XXX oc'd edition - 256mb and 512mb version - win7 ultimate, 2-17" LCD monitors, display on hi-res= 6.5/6.5 WEI with updated drivers
GT240 PNY DDR5 512mb - also make 1GB version - win7 ultimate, 2-19" LCD monitors, display on hi-res= 6.8/6.8 WEI with updated drivers
9600GT standard - win7 ultimate, 2-19" LCD monitors, display on hi-res= 6.9/6.9 WEI with updated drivers
9800GT - 7.1 WEI score in same set-up (estimated)
9500GT - is not worth even mentioning so don't even think about it..

 

WEI score in reality is BS, the concept is a good idea. some people actually go by the WEI so I guess it can be useful at times.
WEI scores can also be slightly different for each individual set-up, example, a WEI score of 6.7 for the GT240 and not 6.8 is very possible for others..


Message edited by malmental on 01-09-2011 at 02:08:39 PM
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8800GT 512Mb = 9800GT 512MB, it was only nvidias first re-branding of the g92 core.

Reply to rolli59

^
more info rolli59, please explain..

 

i did some research:
http://forums.extremeoverclocking. [...] p?t=312965


Message edited by malmental on 01-09-2011 at 02:13:22 PM
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First introduction of g92 was 8800gt in 256 and 512mb versions along with 8800GTS in 512mb. The 8800gt became 9800gt and 8800gts became 9800GTX (with a slight clock increase). Then when nvidia had a die shrink they introduced the 9800GTX+ (with a slight clock increase from 9800GTX) which later was re-branded into GTS250 making the g92 one of the longest living GPU core ever.

Reply to rolli59

I see, I see...
it works for me.

 

I guess I always knew that from just word around forums but never really looked into it..


Message edited by malmental on 01-09-2011 at 02:26:39 PM
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i think there are some clock speed differences between the 8800gt, 9800gt, gts250. The gt240 is different chip though and slower than all the above. @op I have an 8800gts which would be similar performance. Im trying to figure out how to get a 8gb iso onto 2 dvd's. when i figure that out, ill install black ops and check shadows, not that the iso has anything to do with black ops......just some work i need to do before its play time....Do you have a screenshot of what the "bad shadows" look like so i can compare??

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Reply to iam2thecrowe

k ill try try uploading some screenshots...

Reply to jMvillszz

heres the screenshots....
http://www.4shared.com/file/0CElOJmZ/Screenshots.html
sorry its in .rar form..
btw 99.9% no virus!!


Message edited by jMvillszz on 01-10-2011 at 12:10:51 PM
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looks more like the shadows are not being mapped on the object properly. maybe a driver or issue with the game. what version of windows and directx are you using?

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Reply to iam2thecrowe

pls help me how to fix this prob..

Reply to jMvillszz

the only thing that you can do is to 'clean sweep' all nVidia drivers and then re-install.
if that doesn't work then you will have to turn down settings to super low or get another gfx card of better quality.
that's it.

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Reply to malmental

help pls.. i already tried "clean install" with a new driver 260.99 i downloaded...pls help me iam2thecrowe where are u??

Reply to jMvillszz

could someone explain why this guy doesn't experience bad shadow when he only has gt 240 ddr3 512mb..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTp [...] re=related
when i have the 1gb ddr3 version..
btw my specs:
amd athlon II x2 245 2.9ghz
2gb ddr3 ram
palit gt 240 1gb ddr3

Reply to jMvillszz

already told u to check your PSU.You must have a 450W....onwards PSU and that also of a good company e.g. Dell,HP,Zebronics or if you can afford then corsair,OCZ,cooler master,etc.

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Reply to Anik8

who agrees this is a psu problem?

Reply to jMvillszz

If it was a PSU problem the system would be unstable.

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