Which socket 1155 2011

[sighnbox]

Hi there ok I was looking at two systems one

Intel i7 2600K Asus P8Z68 Deluxe

Intel i7 3930K Asus P9X79 deluxe


I have been told that in about 6 month the new 8 core intel processor will be out and if I go 1155 socket I will be able to just swop out my 2600K for a new 8 core processor If I go 2011 socket I wont ..........Is this correct can some one please enlighten me ???

 

[willard]

Ivy Bridge is a socket 1155 chip, so yes, you can just drop those into a Z68 board. 2011 will probably only work with Sandy Bridge-E. There will probably be new SB-E chips released eventually, but the platform has very low upgradeability.

Personally, I'd just wait the 6 weeks or so until the IVB launch and get one of those to begin with.

 

[sighnbox]

Are you saying go the 1155 asus board then but dont get the 2600K wait six weeks what am I wating 6 weeks for then ?

 

[willard]

I'm saying that if you wait six weeks to build, then you'll have access to faster processors at the same price point, Ivy Bridge.

 

[sighnbox]

Yes thats what I like to hear and in english I understand So the 2600K is a sandy bridge but Ivy bridge is coming and for same dosh will get a faster processor thanks chap So if its a choice between the Ivy bridge then and the 6 core 3930K ??????

 

[willard]

Ivy Bridge hasn't been benched yet, can't tell you. Chances are, though, that you really don't need the muscle SB-E offers. What are you planning to do with the system?

 

[sighnbox]

My computer is basicly a genral hack I do a bit video editing making DVDs some photo editing, use it for Iplayer and music and then its an expensive porn and Ebay machine lol. I don't do any gaming at all and don't over clock my comp unless its with one the programes you get with your board that auto boosts it. But I do like a very fast responsive comp and it's nice to own a fast car but dont mean you have to drive at 150MPH every where.

 

[willard]

Well, the SB-E will may be noticeable when you're doing DVD and photo editing, but probably nowhere else. If you have the cash to spend and just want bragging rights that you've got a kick ass, six core monster of a processor, go right ahead. It's probably going to be faster than the initial IVB offerings, but not by a lot and only in heavily threaded workloads.

 

[sighnbox]

Well, the SB-E will may be noticeable when you're doing DVD and photo editing, but probably nowhere else. If you have the cash to spend and just want bragging rights that you've got a kick ass, six core monster of a processor, go right ahead. It's probably going to be faster than the initial IVB offerings, but not by a lot and only in heavily threaded workloads.

Well bragging rights no as no one I know would have a clue anyway lol Its more a case of what set up would be the most future proof and would the 3930K being going stupid beyond what I need BUT if its (2011) the most future proof then the extra £309 I've worked out the diffrance is in processors and boards would be Then it would be worth it to have a better future proof system. This is what I'm thinking ..............


I will be using from my old comp for ether set up.......

Windows home premium 64 Bit
2 x Western Digital Caviar Black HDD (SATA 3 not the new 6) 1TB each being used for storage of pics, film, music etc
Cooler Master silent Pro 850 PSU
2 x LG blue ray burner/drives
Iiyama ProLite B2409HDS I will be adding a second one of these monitors
2 x Icy Box caddies (To easy remove storage drives for hiding when go away)

Then the choice is...... Z68 or 2011

Z68 as follows....

Intel Core i7 2600K
Asus P8Z68 Deluxe
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1800Mhz 16Gig of
Graphics card (NVIDIA) EVGA 1280MB GeForce GTX 570 HD
Kingston Hyper x 120 Gig (SATA 6 for operating system and programmes)
Cooler Master Cosmos 1100 s (to be stripped down and inside powder coated black)

CPU cooling unknown yet will also be a card reader/usb 3, SSD/HDD internal docking bay and poss. fan controller


2011 set up.....

Intel i7 3930K
Asus P9X79 Deluxe
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1800Mhz 16 Gig of but may add another 16 Gig
Graphics card (NVIDIA) EVGA 1280MB GeForce GTX 570 HD
Kingston Hyper x 120 Gig (SATA 6 for operating system and programmes)
Cooler Master Cosmos 1100 s (to be stripped down and inside powder coated black)

CPU cooling unknown yet will all so be card reader/ USB 3 bay, HDD/SSD Internal docking bay and poss. fan controller

 

[jaquith]

It depends on what 'goodies' you plan to add to your system whether X79/LGA 2011 or Z68/LGA 1155, Applications and memory usage. As far as 8-cores, at one point Intel was going to offer a consumer SB-E but decided not to enable cores 7 & 8 aka 'turn-on' -- they're already there but disabled and the initial 'plan' was to have a 4, 6 and 8 core SB-E. The Xeon E5-266#, 267# and 268# are based on same lithography with all 8-core enabled.

'My' feeling is/was if the AMD FX performance was threatening Intel then you'd probably have seen an SB-E 8-core.

Clearly, if your plans include 3/4-WAY with GTX 600 or HD 7000 series then X79/LGA 2011.

The IB-E/LGA 2011 might offer 8-cores but who knows. However, I've been burned with 'guessing' future CPU's and future CPU performance. I really don't expect too much of a 'real world' performance increase with IB CPU's, I do expect them to be more efficient and offer some TBD performance gains.

 

[sighnbox]

It depends on what 'goodies' you plan to add to your system whether X79/LGA 2011 or Z68/LGA 1155, Applications and memory usage. As far as 8-cores, at one point Intel was going to offer a consumer SB-E but decided not to enable cores 7 & 8 aka 'turn-on' -- they're already there but disabled and the initial 'plan' was to have a 4, 6 and 8 core SB-E. The Xeon E5-266#, 267# and 268# are based on same lithography with all 8-core enabled.

'My' feeling is/was if the AMD FX performance was threatening Intel then you'd probably have seen an SB-E 8-core.

Clearly, if your plans include 3/4-WAY with GTX 600 or HD 7000 series then X79/LGA 2011.

The IB-E/LGA 2011 might offer 8-cores but who knows. However, I've been burned with 'guessing' future CPU's and future CPU performance. I really don't expect too much of a 'real world' performance increase with IB CPU's, I do expect them to be more efficient and offer some TBD performance gains.

Well really I wont add anything the one graphics card (Nvidi 570HD) will easy do video and photo editing two screens one for preview and one for tools......I dont do gaming so no need for more I will have 16 Gig 1800Mhz Ram corsiar vengence If I go 1155 or pos 16 or 32 gig 1800Mhz Ram corsiar vengence if I go 2011 But thats more than enough for Pinacle editing programe for film and Coral paint shop for photos.

 

[jaquith]

Getting 8GB/stick to operate stable >DDR3-1600 is no easy trick, and running them at >CAS 9 defeats the Frequency advantage.

Based on what you posted I'd stick with LGA 1155. Intel i7-2600K, and ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 or P8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3.

I'm not a Pinnacle user, and to my understanding there's no Quick Sync support so my suggestion is best bang for your buck. Clearly if Quick Sync is supported the the Z68/iGPU rendering would be accelerated. Obviously, the SB-E will cut-down on some rendering time and you have to decide if the extra money is worth it to you.

However, if you do a tremendous amount of rendering and Quick Sync is unsupported then SB-E/LGA 2011.

 

[sighnbox]

Getting 8GB/stick to operate stable >DDR3-1600 is no easy trick, and running them at >CAS 9 defeats the Frequency advantage.

Based on what you posted I'd stick with LGA 1155. Intel i7-2600K, and ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 or P8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3.

I'm not a Pinnacle user, and to my understanding there's no Quick Sync support so my suggestion is best bang for your buck. Clearly if Quick Sync is supported the the Z68/iGPU rendering would be accelerated. Obviously, the SB-E will cut-down on some rendering time and you have to decide if the extra money is worth it to you.

However, if you do a tremendous amount of rendering and Quick Sync is unsupported then SB-E/LGA 2011.

Thank you very much again some more sensible advice I can understand in plain lay mans English. I surpose I render 4 ..2 hour films a year and photo sets about 6 sets of 200 photos each so not exactly Stephen Spilburg or David Baily lol From the two Asus boards what you recons the best the V pro or the Deluxe ?

 

[jaquith]

Here's a easy to read side-by-side -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627%2050001315%20600093976&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=280%7C13-131-791%5E13-131-791-TS%2C13-131-790%5E13-131-790-TS%2C13-131-792%5E13-131-792-TS

If your case lacks USB 3.0 front ports and you 'need' USB 3.0 in the front then the ASUS P8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3 -- otherwise ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 or even the ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN.

$12 Biostar CABLEUSB3.0 USB 3.0 Front Panel - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811996037