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June 15, 2011 1:10:13 AM

Im looking for some nice headphones with decent bass and good sound quality for up to about $50, 60 if its worth it. Ive tried Beats and I actually liked the sound quality, but since there from Monster im assuming they are massively over priced. So are there any headphones from sensible brands that can compete with Beats in my price range?

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June 15, 2011 3:57:08 AM

Until around $80 the JVC HX700s are the best you're going to find. If you're lucky you might find some HD555s refurb'd in your price range.
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June 15, 2011 2:59:08 PM

i dont think tehre is too much option at that price,

if i was going for a headphone up to the $50 mark id probably look for earphones.
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June 15, 2011 5:08:43 PM

I love my Sony MDR-V6 pair, around $60.
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June 15, 2011 11:52:14 PM

What? The JVC HX700s are only around $30 and they are very respectable headphones, they measure up nicely with much more expensive ones.
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June 16, 2011 1:49:34 AM

Which type of headphone you want,Gaming or Stereo.
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June 16, 2011 1:52:04 AM

vishal s said:
Which type of headphone you want,Gaming or Stereo.

There are no differences. Stereo headphones are still the best for gaming, assuming they have a sufficient soundstage.
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June 16, 2011 1:59:17 AM

klbg said:
There are no differences. Stereo headphones are still the best for gaming, assuming they have a sufficient soundstage.


yes there is not much difference but they have high impedance,S/N ratio and sound card compatible.

Yes its so difficult to classify a gaming and stereo headphone in this budget.
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June 16, 2011 4:15:10 PM

klbg said:
There are no differences. Stereo headphones are still the best for gaming, assuming they have a sufficient soundstage.



IDK much about headphones, but I've seen surround sound headphones, like 5.1 and stuff.
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June 16, 2011 6:32:15 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
IDK much about headphones, but I've seen surround sound headphones, like 5.1 and stuff.


Surround is virtually useless in game, and you can use Dolby Headphones surround on any headphones with a $25 Xonar DG. As rule of thumb, stay away from the words "headset" "gaming" and "surround".
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June 16, 2011 6:45:52 PM

i guess you have never owned a decent pair that actually work, my logitech G930's give great spacial awareness. there a little outside the op's price range but im making the point that not all surround headphones fail.
some have multiple diaphragms to help with the overall effect

b4 i got my headset i did have a cheap pair of head bins that had surprisingly good bass. they were from SAITEK the GH20 Vibration Headset at around £25 there cheap but they sound ok... they do support virtual surround but are much better when setup for sterio.
also the Genius Headset with Boom Microphone Model: HS-04V were also a competent headset sound wise, even though they were a little shoddy on build quality.
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June 16, 2011 8:12:03 PM

HEXiT said:
i guess you have never owned a decent pair that actually work, my logitech G930's give great spacial awareness. there a little outside the op's price range but im making the point that not all surround headphones fail.
some have multiple diaphragms to help with the overall effect

b4 i got my headset i did have a cheap pair of head bins that had surprisingly good bass. they were from SAITEK the GH20 Vibration Headset at around £25 there cheap but they sound ok... they do support virtual surround but are much better when setup for sterio.
also the Genius Headset with Boom Microphone Model: HS-04V were also a competent headset sound wise, even though they were a little shoddy on build quality.



Have used the G35, which is the G930 with a wire. It doesn't "fail", but it's not nearly as good as proper headphones. It may give "spacial awareness", but it uses Dolby Headphones, which any Xonar card can do. There's a reason you don't see "7.1 headsets" in professional gaming very often.
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June 16, 2011 10:07:46 PM

what he said ^

and let me strongly support the fact tha tits always to get a qulaity headphone and get a gd sound card to enable dolby headphone, this is probably better then any "gaming" headset.. however teh g35 whether the quality is good or not, i heard for 7.1 emulation- it is very very good.
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June 17, 2011 3:32:23 PM

klbg said:
Surround is virtually useless in game, and you can use Dolby Headphones surround on any headphones with a $25 Xonar DG. As rule of thumb, stay away from the words "headset" "gaming" and "surround".


You have no idea what you are talking about, as the other guy said, you've never expirienced surround sound when in a game. FPS shooters like COD support 5.1 surround which works amazingly, if your speakers are properly set up, actions happening around you will be played by speakers accordingly, wether its infront or behind you. I'm not sure about headsets, but surround sound in general it very useful for fps shooters at least. You should give a bit more thought to you "Rule of Thumbs". Eventually games, if not already, will support more channels, currently its 6channel(5.1) and eventually 8-9channel (7.1 and 7.2).
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June 17, 2011 3:52:51 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
You have no idea what you are talking about, as the other guy said, you've never expirienced surround sound when in a game. FPS shooters like COD support 5.1 surround which works amazingly, if your speakers are properly set up, actions happening around you will be played by speakers accordingly, wether its infront or behind you. I'm not sure about headsets, but surround sound in general it very useful for fps shooters at least. You should give a bit more thought to you "Rule of Thumbs". Eventually games, if not already, will support more channels, currently its 6channel(5.1) and eventually 8-9channel (7.1 and 7.2).



I'm not talking about REAL surround, I'm not talking about headphone surround. And stop telling me what I haven't experienced. I could just as easily say you've never experienced stereo. Like I've said, I've owned the G35 surround headset, and I know that compared to the AD700s with a proper sound card they don't even come close to positioning.
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June 17, 2011 6:04:28 PM

^You should have made your statement more specific. Making such a false and general statement as "Surround is virtually useless in a game" is what got that response. Be more specific. That was why I made a generalization that you never expirienced surround sound, and calm down.

When using proper equipment, wether headset and/or regular speakers, if configured properly will add huge advantage and works really well.
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June 17, 2011 9:58:26 PM

^Why are you telling me to calm down? What part of my post showed any sign of anger? I didn't assume I needed to be more specific, as this is a thread about headphones, and we were discussing headphone surround sound. Perhaps you should read more closely next time?
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June 18, 2011 1:34:17 AM

klbg said:
^Why are you telling me to calm down? What part of my post showed any sign of anger? I didn't assume I needed to be more specific, as this is a thread about headphones, and we were discussing headphone surround sound. Perhaps you should read more closely next time?


That doesn't matter, I did read closely, but next time be more specific. And either way, you were wrong about the headphone part also, I've played a game w/ 5.1 headphones and it did make a difference, connected to a soundcard. Perhaps you should know something about what you are talking about before talking about it :) . Its all good though.
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June 18, 2011 1:46:01 AM

blackhawk1928 said:
That doesn't matter, I did read closely, but next time be more specific. And either way, you were wrong about the headphone part also, I've played a game w/ 5.1 headphones and it did make a difference, connected to a soundcard. Perhaps you should know something about what you are talking about before talking about it :) . Its all good though.


You did read closely? I was quoting a guy talking about surround headphones. Apparently not.

I never said 5.1 headphones don't make a difference (again, read), I said they don't help out ingame. A stereo headphone with good soundstage beats out multiple speakers anytime. Also, which 5.1 headphones did you use "with a soundcard" (is this supposed to imply that I don't have one? because I do)? AFAIK 99% of them are either USB or require an included USB amp. If you're talking about the Psyko one.. that's a piece of crap anyway (reviews speak for themselves). I already said (twice) that I owned a "7.1" headset, so again, don't tell me I don't know anything about it.

It's fine that you're upset and don't want to admit you replied without paying attention, but don't try to justify it with bullshit. I forgive you.
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June 18, 2011 6:24:11 AM

I'm not upset son, is a forum arguement lol. You're the one that can't let it go.
I realize you were quoting a guy about headphones, but headphones also can produce a great surround sound affect. I didn't imply that you didn't you use a soundcard, i simply stated that I used a good soundcard and good pair.

In addition, the simple fact that you actually trust reviews written by completely untechnical people shows you still aren't quite sure what you are talking about. Online reviews written at retailers websites are written by people who think that if you plug a USB connector into a network (which do fit) that something is broken. So you need to find reviews done by people who know what they are talking about on good websites.

And if you are telling the truth about owning a 7.1 headset with a soundcard, then you obviosly didn't have the correct settings for it, or you simply didn't notice, it gives you no grounds however to give such a sweeping generalization.

You are the only one so far laying out bullshit.

Oh yeah, and even on retailers website, newegg lets say, in the reviews you can clearly see people complaining about either price, weight or something else as usual...but very few people mention something bad about the surround sound, most say its good. Here, incase you DIDN"T read, take a look:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

^There will be some bad reviews about the surround, but know the persons technical level and don't take them to seriously.
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June 18, 2011 9:17:13 AM

let me kinda support both of you guys there..

of course 5.1 will help out in games then stereo.

but siltl if you are talking about physical 5.1 in headphones, well the layout of the drivers just make things worse, and they really arent close to the real thing, whether the drivers are gd or not.

same goes for stereo with 5.1 emulation..... even though this is not the msot best way to get surround sound, the DAC on USB headphones are quite tacky compared to the soundcards, the onboard DAC only do well in surround sound, and nothing more, quality is JUST on par with a heapdhone of a lower price.

however let me also add, that most "gaming" headphones and 5.1 headphones, really arent up to par by quality stereo headphones..when it comes to quality that is...


any other headphones that uses its own propiertry engine for surround sound sucks, thats truth people. (it is now)

the best out so far for built in tech. is still dolby, but again i have said that quality stereo headphones are still better....

...therefore, its is far much better to get a quality stereo set, and use a quality soundcard and use its own dolby headphone tech,

if you are an avid gamer without a card, there are few games that support the blue ripple technology-> rapture 3D, they currently have used it for DIRT games, its actually better then the dolby headphone, however its not commercialy popular due to the way its processing,... ill just say its not like plug and play.


to teh OP, if you looking for gaming headsets, dont bother, it will be difficult to find a gd one, at your price mark, if i were you id go for stereo headphones, but even then they wont be very good,

infact, id actaully go for earphones. but then again you could have completely ruled that one out.
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June 18, 2011 7:20:18 PM

^Well the thing you said about Stereo headphones being better then surround is a matter of opinion. I never said that I liked it or didn't like it. I am just saying the surround sound does work and it DOES do its job with simulating effects from around you in the game, which makes it "Useful". Thats the fact that I disagree with stubborn Klbg.
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June 18, 2011 7:28:11 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
I'm not upset son, is a forum arguement lol. You're the one that can't let it go.
I realize you were quoting a guy about headphones, but headphones also can produce a great surround sound affect. I didn't imply that you didn't you use a soundcard, i simply stated that I used a good soundcard and good pair.

In addition, the simple fact that you actually trust reviews written by completely untechnical people shows you still aren't quite sure what you are talking about. Online reviews written at retailers websites are written by people who think that if you plug a USB connector into a network (which do fit) that something is broken. So you need to find reviews done by people who know what they are talking about on good websites.

And if you are telling the truth about owning a 7.1 headset with a soundcard, then you obviosly didn't have the correct settings for it, or you simply didn't notice, it gives you no grounds however to give such a sweeping generalization.

You are the only one so far laying out bullshit.

Oh yeah, and even on retailers website, newegg lets say, in the reviews you can clearly see people complaining about either price, weight or something else as usual...but very few people mention something bad about the surround sound, most say its good. Here, incase you DIDN"T read, take a look:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

^There will be some bad reviews about the surround, but know the persons technical level and don't take them to seriously.



I don't know where you saw me saying anywhere that I "trust reviews" (again, you're pulling this out of nowhere).. I'm basing all of my information off of personal experience and conversations on the HiFi.org boards as well as Overclock.net audio forums. If you looked around even a little bit, you'd see how those with actual SOUND experience dismiss all "gaming" headsets as gimmicks. Again, people who haven't experienced good stereo and try out a "surround" headphone might love it, that's not the point. Plenty of people LOVE their Logitech speakers, but those of us with experience know they're crap. To add: tech experience has nothing to do with audio experience. Why are you even bringing up user reviews? Didn't you start this by saying reviews suck?

You got upset because you didn't read, and now you're trying valiantly to defend yourself. Don't call me stubborn. I've owned AD700s, ATH M50s, and HD595s, as well Logitech G35s (the most popular "7.1" headset), and I've tried the Megalodon several times. What's your experience? You still failed to list WHICH surround headset you used, since, like I said, almost every single one is USB (which, if you don't understand, implies that it BYPASSES the sound card).

tl;dr I have experience, get over it.
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June 18, 2011 7:30:36 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
^Well the thing you said about Stereo headphones being better then surround is a matter of opinion. I never said that I liked it or didn't like it. I am just saying the surround sound does work and it DOES do its job with simulating effects from around you in the game, which makes it "Useful". Thats the fact that I disagree with stubborn Klbg.


And I'm saying that stereo can create "surround " effects on GOOD headphones just as well as those gimmicky "5.1/7.1 headsets". Again, sound cards already have Dolby Headphones or CMSS3D if you so desire, which is EXACTLY the technology gaming headsets use. And again, notice how most succesful gamers generally use Sennheisers? Or have you never been to a LAN party?
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June 18, 2011 9:42:42 PM

Im not the one that needs calming down, you're the one typing up essays and double posting lol.

I just Think that on a forum, you shouldn't try to demoralize somebody with your stupid opinion and pass it as fact. Your experience doesn't speak for everyones. Its as simple as that.
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June 18, 2011 9:46:38 PM

^ oo thats harsh, lol what a comeback... no offense to ANYONE.
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June 18, 2011 10:33:42 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
Im not the one that needs calming down, you're the one typing up essays and double posting lol..

Sorry, didn't realize more than one paragraph constituted an essay, nor did I realize it had anything to do with being calm. I didn't "double post", I responded to two different posts separately, and I hardly see how that's relevant to bring up either.

All you can say is that my "opinion" is stupid, and my "experience" doesn't speak for everyone. What I'm saying is the collective wisdom of the most respected home audio forum on the internet (HiFi), as well as personal experience (which I brought up and listed clearly). What you're saying is nothing but substance-less contradiction (NO UR STUPID AND WHAT U SAY IS WRONG). If my experience isn't worth anything, why should yours be any different? For the third time now you haven't even been able to come up with the name of the headset you used, doubtless because it doesn't exist. Nothing I'm saying is "demoralizing" either, pick up a dictionary bro.

Or are you the sensitive kind that needs people to put "IMO" before every single thing they type, else you get your panties in a knot?

This conversation is reminiscent of arguing with a 12 year old on Halo 2.


Please, if you have any point to contribute, answer me this; why would anyone buy a headset that does virtual surround and has mediocre stereo when, for the same money, you can get a pair of high quality stereo headphones and use "virtual surround" on it with the same exact technology on any sound card? Again, go to HiFi and try to tell people there that virtual surround headsets are a good idea. I dare you.
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June 19, 2011 2:12:03 PM

i see a win.
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June 20, 2011 4:15:17 AM

I see that you are the sensitive kind that likes to pick on simple words like essays to try and promote their arguement, because you have no other valid points.

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All you can say is that my "opinion" is stupid, and my "experience" doesn't speak for everyone.


Thats all I need to say, because it doesn't.

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What I'm saying is the collective wisdom of the most respected home audio forum on the internet (HiFi), as well as personal experience (which I brought up and listed clearly). What you're saying is nothing but substance-less contradiction (NO UR STUPID AND WHAT U SAY IS WRONG).


I know what you are saying, I know how to read, I know English. I'm not saying that you are wrong, an opinion cannot be wrong. I'm saying that you shouldn't pass your own opinion as a fact, especially to people who might not be as technical as you per say, because as I said earlier, your expirience doesn't speak for everyones. Thats all I'm saying, its really quite simple.

It seems as if you are the one getting your panties in a knot :) . You are blowing this into a big deal twisting things around.

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If my experience isn't worth anything, why should yours be any different?


*sigh*. I didn't say your experience isn't worth anything, I simply said that your expirience doesn't speak for everyone else who has different experiences with these headset, perhaps better or worse than yours. Your experience is worth a lot, noteworthy, but so is mine. Once again, your hypocrisy is amazing.

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For the third time now you haven't even been able to come up with the name of the headset you used, doubtless because it doesn't exist. Nothing I'm saying is "demoralizing" either, pick up a dictionary bro.


That doesn't matter, you missing the point my friend.

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why would anyone buy a headset that does virtual surround and has mediocre stereo when, for the same money, you can get a pair of high quality stereo headphones and use "virtual surround" on it with the same exact technology on any sound card?


Because they aren't as technical.
Want to try something new.
Want Bragging rights.
Or perhaps were convinced by people on forums such as you who pass their "worthy" opinion as a fact and attempt to speak for everybody.



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June 20, 2011 6:30:14 AM

Again, it's not just "my experience", it's the experience and wisdom of the most well respected audio forum on the internet. It's also my opinion that you shouldn't dump water into your PC, due to my own experience. But hey, it's not fact, so I can't tell people NOT to do that. See the problem here?

You again fail to name the headset you used, and now you're saying "it doesn't matter". It does, because it shows that whatever little experience you might have had isn't even real. I'm not missing the point.

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Because they aren't as technical.


That's what you have to contribute? I didn't realize checking a box that said "Dolby Headphones" was technical. No, there is NO reason to buy a virtual surround headset when you can use the same technology on ANY stereo headphones. And no, the process is not "technical".

This is pitiful, you clearly have nothing to contribute, and no experience on the subject. Take a break. You can keep coming back to here and contradict whatever I say to satiate your need to "win" this thread, but it's not accomplishing anything.



^IMO
^I added that so that it was clear that what I said was my opinion.
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June 20, 2011 12:23:56 PM

look both of u have correct poitns... yes both of you, now can you stop this quarelling? it seemed kind of fun for ME to bump pointless sh*t but i see this is getting a bit personal now....

blackhawk1928 list ur headset to KLBG

and KLBG,.. well i agree with what ur saying. but i see a reason on why people buy these virtual cans, is pretty much the reason of simplicity, not thats its for the best...
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June 20, 2011 4:25:25 PM

It's not the reason of simplicity, it's the reason of ignorance. People don't do any real research into these things, and buy gaming peripherals that promise an "edge" in gaming. I feel an obligation to alert these people to scams, and let them save their own money.
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June 20, 2011 5:02:35 PM

Im not telling you the headset I used because I have no proof so I could be lying, so you're just going to have to take my word for it because both of us know there is no point....jeez.

You're a lost cause, you aren't getting a simple point here. Im done here lol, you took this way to far. "No Hard Feelings".

If you really think you won, you can respond, but don't continue your brawl...! nothing personal and no hard feelings...."Pal".
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June 20, 2011 5:10:26 PM

I'm a lost cause because you have nothing to contribute? I didn't take anything too far, I offered advice, you decided to contradict, and I defended myself. I'm glad you at least admit that there is absolutely no reason to buy a virtual surround headset, that's important.
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June 20, 2011 7:25:38 PM

^ I never admitted anything.
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June 20, 2011 8:06:31 PM

By not offering any reason to buy a virtual surround headset, you are admitting. Being stubborn doesn't change that.
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June 21, 2011 3:19:10 AM

^Actually no it doesn't...

And from the first post, you strayed from the Topic

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Surround is Virtually useless ingame


You can't even decide weather you mean surround in general or a surround headset. You are confused.
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June 21, 2011 4:11:30 AM

blackhawk1928 said:
^Actually no it doesn't...

And from the first post, you strayed from the Topic

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Surround is Virtually useless ingame


You can't even decide weather you mean surround in general or a surround headset. You are confused.

Stop grasping at straws. I made it 100% PERFECTLY CLEAR from the beginning that I was referring to HEADPHONES/HEADSETS. You failed to grasp that in a thread ABOUT headphones/headsets.
I never ONCE mentioned speakers. Learn to read, dumbass. You are the only one here talking about anything besides headphones/headsets.
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June 21, 2011 4:46:14 AM

Mhm...have I once insulted you or called you a bad name? No I didn't... Your cursing simply shows your anger and that you're the one with his panties in a knot. :) . Thanks for adding to my main point.

Oh yeah, not sure but I think the headset I used was the ASUS xonar xense. Its a headset (7.1) and soundcard.
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June 21, 2011 5:30:01 AM

blackhawk1928 said:
Oh yeah, not sure but I think the headset I used was the ASUS xonar xense. Its a headset (7.1) and soundcard.



Wow. Just wow. Congratulations on just proving exactly what I've been saying. I said that surround headsets were gimmicks because anyone can use virtual surround on a stereo headset with a soundcard (which you called too technical). Now, you claim your "experience" with 7.1 headsets was with the ASUS Xonar Xense.

The Xonar Xense audio bundle includes the Sennheiser PC 350 headset and the Xonar Xense sound card. Guess what?

The PC350 is a STEREO headset.
The surround you're getting is FROM the sound card.
You've completely proven that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Thank you very much, now go away.



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Your cursing simply shows your anger and that you're the one with his panties in a knot. :) . Thanks for adding to my main point.

Your "main point" was that I'm upset? How is that relevant or helpful to the OP? You've said it best yourself; your only incentive to keep posting here to is to try and contradict me. You have absolutely nothing helpful to add. I'll give you a break. Don't post here anymore, and you'll stop embarrassing yourself.
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June 21, 2011 5:11:07 PM

^You know what, have you ever heard of a real 5 or 7 channel surround sound Home theater system w/ speakers?...if you have, why don't you take off all of those speakers and just put in a mini surround bar and/or use your TV's virtual surround sound...the headset is just that on a smaller scale. The headphones did give excellent surround sound, IDK weather they have mini speakers but sounds from behind, appeared from behind, and likewise for the sounds on the sides/infront.

And I wasn't sure what headphones they were, didn't care, so I just went to newegg and picked out a good 7.1 headset to share with you.

My paint point about you being a walking tantrum is helpful to the OP, because now he hopefully won't listen to you.

You haven't added anything either lol.

And you are the one telling me to read, when I'm not even sure what headset I used. Oh lordy.
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June 21, 2011 6:35:02 PM

some physical "surround sound" headphones do exist, check razer however virtual surround sound seem more popular, the razer one is the ONLY one i know.

surround bars are all ALWAYS virtual whereas some headphones do have physical "side" and "back" drivers, as well as a "sub".


the razer one is the headset where they supply with a control pad, where they can control teh sound options, and i think its 7.1.... is that what you got blackhawk?
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June 21, 2011 7:03:15 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
^You know what, have you ever heard of a real 5 or 7 channel surround sound Home theater system w/ speakers?...if you have, why don't you take off all of those speakers and just put in a mini surround bar and/or use your TV's virtual surround sound...the headset is just that on a smaller scale. The headphones did give excellent surround sound, IDK weather they have mini speakers but sounds from behind, appeared from behind, and likewise for the sounds on the sides/infront.

And I wasn't sure what headphones they were, didn't care, so I just went to newegg and picked out a good 7.1 headset to share with you.

My paint point about you being a walking tantrum is helpful to the OP, because now he hopefully won't listen to you.

You haven't added anything either lol.

And you are the one telling me to read, when I'm not even sure what headset I used. Oh lordy.


1. This thread is not about speakers/Home Theater setups. What part of that do you not understand?
2. Headphones can give virtual surround.. but (and again, I can't see why you are unable to grasp this concept) you can get virtual surround WITH good stereo headphones.
3. The headset you listed did not have "mini speakers" anywhere, it was a STEREO headset with VIRTUAL SURROUND software.
4. You did not listed a 7.1 headset, you listed a stereo headset with a sound card that offers Dolby Headphones surround.. which can work with ANY stereo headset.
5. The OP will listen to me because I have experience and I know what I'm talking about. You can't tell the difference between surround and stereo.
6. I have added something. I've added that the best option is to go with good stereo headphones and to ignore "surround headphones". You argued this, but then listed a STEREO headset anyways, which essentially backed up what I was saying.
7. If you're "not sure" what headset you used, don't bring it up, and don't pick one at random to try and prove your point. Now you just look desperate.


I'm not angry, I'm frustrated that you seem incapable of understanding a simple point. It's like trying to explain calculus to a turtle right now.
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June 21, 2011 7:05:00 PM

MEgamer said:
some physical "surround sound" headphones do exist, check razer however virtual surround sound seem more popular, the razer one is the ONLY one i know.

surround bars are all ALWAYS virtual whereas some headphones do have physical "side" and "back" drivers, as well as a "sub".


the razer one is the headset where they supply with a control pad, where they can control teh sound options, and i think its 7.1.... is that what you got blackhawk?


The Razer one is also virtual surround. It uses Razer "maelstrom" software to force 8 channels into two drivers (the same way Dolby Headphones and CMSS3D work).
Also, Blackhawk claims he used a "soundcard" with a "7.1" headset. The problem is, 7.1 headsets have USB interfaces, which bypass soundcards. Don't bother looking for Blackhawk's headset, it doesn't exist. He pretends to have used one to offer "experience" but it's clear it was all BS.




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Here's a nice pic from HiFi to explain things plainly:
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June 21, 2011 7:42:42 PM

ah right i was thinking of the barracuda (finally searched it) which has few speakers in each ears, according to the "pictures"..... and its 5.1 analogue.

out of the razers own rating system, it is only rated as an essential(1 out of 3)product... meh.

edit: lol ur pic finally loaded, gd post XD
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June 21, 2011 7:53:07 PM

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1. This thread is not about speakers/Home Theater setups. What part of that do you not understand?
2. Headphones can give virtual surround.. but (and again, I can't see why you are unable to grasp this concept) you can get virtual surround WITH good stereo headphones.
3. The headset you listed did not have "mini speakers" anywhere, it was a STEREO headset with VIRTUAL SURROUND software.
4. You did not listed a 7.1 headset, you listed a stereo headset with a sound card that offers Dolby Headphones surround.. which can work with ANY stereo headset.
5. The OP will listen to me because I have experience and I know what I'm talking about. You can't tell the difference between surround and stereo.
6. I have added something. I've added that the best option is to go with good stereo headphones and to ignore "surround headphones". You argued this, but then listed a STEREO headset anyways, which essentially backed up what I was saying.
7. If you're "not sure" what headset you used, don't bring it up, and don't pick one at random to try and prove your point. Now you just look desperate.


I'm not angry, I'm frustrated that you seem incapable of understanding a simple point. It's like trying to explain calculus to a turtle right now.


1) I understand what this thread is about, you are argument about something irrelevant.

2) I realize that you can get virtual surround with stereo headphones, we've established, wether its good or not is another story.

3) I don't even know what headset I used, but just for your information, if I were to connect a a surround sound headset to a soundcard via a audio jack and 3.5mm converter to USB, it would be possible, even through an amplifier...I thought you "knew" what you were talking about.

5) I can tell the difference between surround and stereo, you can't tell the difference between virtual and true surround apparently, and you turned this arguement into something that it is not.

6)Well my mistake, Im not sure.

7)I did that to shut you up, because I'm not sure, I do know that the headset I tried once had drivers in it, multiple ones at that, and it gave an excellent surround effect. Virtual is never as good as true surround

And I'm not frustrated but more disappointed that you still aren't getting the point, when quoting be specific about what you mean and don't try to make as if you opinion is actually how it is, you've also hijacked this thread with your insults, and stupid comments. I hope a moderator closes this thread, its not fair to the OP.

Want to just let this one go :) ? I think I'm having more fun than you with this as you're starting to get pissed I see.

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Nice picture, but where did you get it, doesn't seem to show any sort of evidence, just a bunch cursing to get a point across, I like your support.

And IDK if the OP is still following this thread, seeing how he hasn't responded once since opening the thread, this is going nowhere.
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June 21, 2011 8:15:19 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
3.5mm converter to USB



Alright. I'm done. Really? Not only do you know nothing about audio, you know nothing about technology. You're going to convert a digital audio processing software into an analog sound signal? No... just... no...


Please, go away. Every post you just embarrass yourself even more.


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Virtual is never as good as true surround


Except in headphones true surround is absolutely horrible. The fact that you think 6 tiny drivers 1" from your ear produces "surround" is even more evidence that you have no idea how sound works. Go back to a forum you know something about. People here don't need your baseless "advice".
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June 21, 2011 8:28:22 PM

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June 21, 2011 9:49:24 PM

Ur So dumb, the surround still works. You entire base is from stupid insults and false statements. Analog can still give surround, not good but can. YOu know nothing of technology what so ever, retake a class on it. You are a prick dude :) . If your reciever can't get that, you can use Line-In digital signal.

True surround does work in headphones, its on a smaller scale and does work, you are absolutely clueless.

FINISHED

MEgamer, stop listening to this fool please.
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June 21, 2011 9:56:07 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
Ur So dumb, the surround still works. You entire base is from stupid insults and false statements. Analog can still give surround, not good but can. YOu know nothing of technology what so ever, retake a class on it. You are a prick dude :) . If your reciever can't get that, you can use Line-In digital signal.

True surround does work in headphones, its on a smaller scale and does work, you are absolutely clueless.

FINISHED

MEgamer, stop listening to this fool please.



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Please...


I don't care how many times you scream NO UR WRONG, you can't convert a digital sound processor into an analog sound signal. It's like renaming an mp3 into a .exe and hoping it'll run without a media player. Really, though, stop. You're embarrassing yourself more and more.

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Analog can still give surround, not good but can

What are you babbling about? This is not only stupid, it's irrelevant to the topic. You can't just go to amazon and purchase a LOL-USB2-3.5MM ADAPTER. It's not an issue of digital vs. analog, a USB headset has a "sound card" inside itself, the USB signal is NOT SOUND, it's an interface between the headset and the motherboard.
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