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I've made additions to the matrix at
http://www.furfur.demon.co.uk/geop/vgap_devices.pdf
I've sent it to Paul and it should be up soon.

I believe I've added everything requested in this topic
http://groups-beta.google.com/grou [...] 4b4d6f4dc2

Any further corrections/additions/requests?

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Could you add the name of the race at he top and bottom of each page ?

It would read better and faster when on screen.

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Enforcer have Grav mine layer
it is not checked on your sheet

"Amaranthine" <amaranthine1@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1120677046.630600.196870@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> I've made additions to the matrix at
> http://www.furfur.demon.co.uk/geop/vgap_devices.pdf
> I've sent it to Paul and it should be up soon.
>
> I believe I've added everything requested in this topic
> http://groups-beta.google.com/grou [...] 4b4d6f4dc2
>
> Any further corrections/additions/requests?
>

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The device Warrior Assault is spelled Warrior Assult on your page.

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The old one is still up.

The new one has the race names at the top of each page.
Warrior Assault has been spelled correctly.

I hadn't seen the Grav Mine thing though. Thanks!

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As a quick note, the new grid uses black squares instead of light
purple. So if its still purple, it hasn't been updated.

Reply to Anonymous

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Hey that is pretty cool, I was actually thinking what races had agro
dome, and started making a simular one for grgzone. (web page
formatted) But was more along the lines of clicking a link on the
Device name, and see a list of all ships and races that have that
device. It isn't realsed yet because I'm lazy.

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It is now updated.

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It is now updated on the site.

Reply to Anonymous

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I love your new updated version !

Very nice to have added the super weapon and all next to each other.

But,
1-) I would like all the mine laying device and mine sweeping and
destabilizer and maybe detector to be next to each other like the SW.
2-) Maybe if you could add a number for each race like Solar Federation 1,
Lizards 2
and at the bottom of each page have only those number, to help spotting to
witch race the device belong too.


Thanks for your amazing WORK !!!

Lord Lancelot

Reply to Anonymous

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Good work! I checked this before your update and found some things
missing.

Before your update:

Borg
Missing: Gravity Well Generator
Evil Empire
Missing: Bioscanner
Doesn't have: Mind Crusher
Robot
Missing: Barbitic Mine Dropper (Nova)
Missing: Bioscanner
CoM
Missing: Mine Sweeper Array

I think Feds, Lizards, Birds, Stormers and Privateers had one device
missing between them, but can't find in my notes what it was. Didn't
check the 3rd party races.

Later,

Skies

Reply to Anonymous

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I didn't realise so many races had a boarding laser. Good work.

By the way, Priv's are missing their boarding laser.

Robert.

Reply to Anonymous

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The Enforcers (more commonly written as the UEA) have a Psi-Ops Hisser
Unit. The Lizard version is Proprietary.

Scytale

Reply to Anonymous

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All 7 devices related to minefields are now grouped.

A number has been added under the race name and at the bottom of each
page. Also the race names have been oriented totally vertical to make
it easier to tell which line goes with which race.

Reply to Anonymous

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Added the missing devices brought to my attention by Skies, soxee and
Scytale.

Renamed Enforcers UEA. Originally went with Enforcers because of UA
was already in use.

Also added the Laser Mine Dropper which, for some unknown reason,
wasn't even on the list. Crystals, EE and Rebels have it of the
original races. Most of the 3rd party races have it. 4 do not (UA,
Draconian, UEA, IMT).

Paul is out of town for several days, so it won't be updated on the
site until he gets back.

Any other errors?

Reply to Anonymous

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That was fast.

I Can't wait for that update. (nice idea to make the name totally vertical)

Thanks

"Amaranthine" <amaranthine1@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1120836345.642178.20100@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> All 7 devices related to minefields are now grouped.
>
> A number has been added under the race name and at the bottom of each
> page. Also the race names have been oriented totally vertical to make
> it easier to tell which line goes with which race.
>

Reply to Anonymous

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From what I have read here in the news groupthe boarding laser should be P
for all race.

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Really? Proprietary for everyone? Can anyone confirm?

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What is new in Host.exe Version 4.000.162

New: Boarding lasers do not work on ships of alien hull design.


Scytale

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Thanks.

The updated grid is now up at KlingonKommand
(http://www.furfur.demon.co.uk/geop/vgap4.htm).
There is also a sheet listing changes in happiness that come from Tax
Rate for the different races and natives.

They are at the end of the second section.

Reply to Anonymous

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There will be a few additional tweaks put up on (probably) Thursday
evening.

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I'M 100% happy with your latest version !
:)

Thanks for putting the Dry Dock information.
I strongly suggest to all serious vgap 4 players do download the latest copy
and print it.
It's even more valuable to new player like me.

A big thank you.

"Amaranthine" <amaranthine1@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1121183434.244151.38150@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> There will be a few additional tweaks put up on (probably) Thursday
> evening.
>

P.S.

I think we already have your updated version online.

Maybe if you had a version number on the top corner of the first page (and a
release date), it would be easier for the vgap players to know what version
they have...It would be nice when you announce a new version in the
newsgroup to tell the new version number.

Lord Lancelot

Reply to Anonymous

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This sheet have new and invaluable information (fo me and probably for most
players).
Its also a must have and print.
You should post a new thread for this new information sheet, some player may
miss it in this long thread.

Lord Lancelot

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UEA is missing is tachyon scanner from it's Ranger class station.

One new "device" , it's not an official device, but it would be a nice
addition like the Dry Dock...

Hyper Engine

Race

1
2
3
4
5 X
6 X
7 X
8 X
9
10 X
11
12
13 X
14 X
15
16 X
17
18
19 X
20 X
21

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I just checked all Tim race (1-11)

Birdmen are missing there bio scanner.

COM are missing there Unicorn (the Unicorn is not listed at all on your
sheet)

As stated before UEA is missing there Tachyon Scanner (witch is named
Tachyon Emiter is the race pack and on Time device explanation list).

I will try to check the third party races as well, but the Peeps will take a
day to check :(

Lord Lancelot

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Holojammer should be renamed Holo Jamming Device (has in raceview and Tim
device explanation list)

Tachyon Scanner should be renamed Tachyon Emiter (has in raceview and Tim
device explanation list)

Birdmen are missing there bio scanner.

COM are missing there Unicorn (the Unicorn is not listed at all on your
sheet)

UEA is missing:

Alchemy Forge
Contraband Lockdown (from Sergeant at arms)
DTMS-N fuel Converter
Dust Off
Mobile Ord Factory
Mobile Repair Plant
Tachyon Emiter

"Sergeant At Arms Class Strikeship The Sergeant At Arms is a solid and
flexible warship. Well armed and protected its a very solid warship that is
able to hyperjump on its own up to 600 light-years. The Sergeant At Arms
takes on many of the roles of the Arbitrator, as the SAA is a much heavier
warship its better suited to heavy engagements. The Arbitrator will still
see use in hunting down agile and lighter targets though. Don't forget the
always on Contraband lockdown device with a range of 100ly!"

From
http://www.furfur.demon.co.uk/geop/v4enforcers.htm

One new "device" , it's not an official device, but it would be a nice
addition like the Dry Dock...

Hyper Engine
Race

1
2
3
4
5 X
6 X
7 X
8 X
9
10 X
11
12
13 X
14 X
15
16 X
17
18
19 X
20 X
21


Race not double checked yet(for missing device) : 13 Peeps, 15 draconian,
17 Coalition, 18 Aczanny, 19 Centaur, 20 Solarians, 21 IMT

Lord Lancelot

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Lord Lancelot schrieb:

> UEA is missing:
>
> Alchemy Forge
> Contraband Lockdown (from Sergeant at arms)

AFAIR the UEA Contraband Lockdown is implemented on the Law Dog and not on
Sergeant. IIRC I heared it was an error, but will not corrected.
IMHO it is not the same as say the Contraband Lockdown of the EE, as this
have 200 LY rage and can be switched on and off.

> "Sergeant At Arms Class Strikeship The Sergeant At Arms is a solid and
> flexible warship. Well armed and protected its a very solid warship that is
> able to hyperjump on its own up to 600 light-years. The Sergeant At Arms
> takes on many of the roles of the Arbitrator, as the SAA is a much heavier
> warship its better suited to heavy engagements. The Arbitrator will still
> see use in hunting down agile and lighter targets though. Don't forget the
> always on Contraband lockdown device with a range of 100ly!"

Bye-Bye JoSch.

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Thanks for the correction, than maybe Amaranthine should add a new device
name : Contraband Lockdown* (100 Ly)
* = The UEA ship Law Dog as an always on Contraband lockdown device with a
range of 100ly.

"nospam" <j_schwarze_@freenet.de> a écrit dans le message de news:
42de4210$0$15211$9b622d9e@news.freenet.de...
> Lord Lancelot schrieb:
>
>> UEA is missing:
>>
>> Alchemy Forge
>> Contraband Lockdown (from Sergeant at arms)
>
> AFAIR the UEA Contraband Lockdown is implemented on the Law Dog and not on
> Sergeant. IIRC I heared it was an error, but will not corrected.
> IMHO it is not the same as say the Contraband Lockdown of the EE, as this
> have 200 LY rage and can be switched on and off.
>
>> "Sergeant At Arms Class Strikeship The Sergeant At Arms is a solid and
>> flexible warship. Well armed and protected its a very solid warship that
>> is able to hyperjump on its own up to 600 light-years. The Sergeant At
>> Arms takes on many of the roles of the Arbitrator, as the SAA is a much
>> heavier warship its better suited to heavy engagements. The Arbitrator
>> will still see use in hunting down agile and lighter targets though.
>> Don't forget the always on Contraband lockdown device with a range of
>> 100ly!"
>
> Bye-Bye JoSch.
>

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UEA lock down on Law dog, not on Sergeant.

"Lord Lancelot" <lordlancelot@Nospamthankyou.com> a écrit dans le message de
news: yqEDe.7873$je2.749983@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Thanks for the correction, than maybe Amaranthine should add a new device
> name : Contraband Lockdown* (100 Ly)
> * = The UEA ship Law Dog as an always on Contraband lockdown device with a
> range of 100ly.
>

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confirmed.

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I'll leave it on the same line as the Evil Empire version. I've left
out the racial variations on the Devices. Or, rather, I combined all
variations on a single device under one listing.

Thanks for all your editing work. I have no idea how I missed so many
UEA devices. I'm hoping I didn't mark them under a different race by
mistake. It didn't appear so, as I'd assume I would have marked to one
side or the other, and there were few overlaps between those races.

I'll get this update sent in to Paul.


Lord Lancelot wrote:
> Thanks for the correction, than maybe Amaranthine should add a new device
> name : Contraband Lockdown* (100 Ly)
> * = The UEA ship Law Dog as an always on Contraband lockdown device with a
> range of 100ly.

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Rift generator??

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For some reason global warmer and icer are marked for UEA???

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The UEA have global icer and global warmer on the device sheet, but it's an
error since they
dont have those device on any of their ships...

I confirm this

It was probably because the race before and after the UEA have both of them.

(a copy of this message will be send to the autor Amaranthine)

Thanks to all who report errors.

Lord Lancelot

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UEA (Remove those device)
Solar gamma ray
Global icer
Global warmer

The 3 above are on the device sheet, but it's an
error since they dont have those device on any of their ships...

Solarian
Energy tranfer beam should be P (as stated in the ship device doc)

Birdmen
are missing Bioscanner


I finally checked all the 21 race using raceview.exe to see if all the race
device are listed on the device sheet, including the new IMT race pack.

Part 2
I need to do a new pass of all 21 races in reverse, check if they have the
device listed on the sheet...


Lord Lancelot

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I made the corrections.

I also added 3 new entries:
L. Weapon (2000kt)
L. Weapon (700kt)
L. Weapon (800kt)

I considered an entry for the 150kt mounts as well, but only the Robots
do not have such mounts and they have the 2000kt mounts on a low enough
tech hull to make that irrelevant. So I just listed the super heavy
mounts.

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