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dkooys   03-17-2011 at 01:28:13 AM

Hey guys
I'm fairly new to building computers, but I have done a lot of research through various websites and I came up with a build that I think is fairly good. It never hurts to ask for a second opinion so that's why I'm here. Also, I do believe everything is compatible with each other but not 100% sure. I plan on getting another video card, and adding another 4 gigs of ram later down the road. By the way, this is going to be a budget gaming build. Please help me out and tell me if this is solid. Thanks

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Video Card: GIGABYTE Ultra Durable VGA Series GV-N460OC2-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready
Memory: Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3B1K2/4GX
Mother Board: GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...
Power supply: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850 V2 850W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power ...
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

I already have a monitor, but might add an additional one later in time also.



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WR2   03-17-2011 at 01:44:33 AM

Hello dkooys;

Did you get the i5 2500K & Hyper 212+ CPU cooler in the combo deal?

CPU/MB/RAM combo is compatible and very good choices of parts. (great deal on the HyperX RAM, isn't it? Good find there.)

HDD/DVD - already have a DVD burner?

GPU: your GTX 460 is going to a home in a CrossfireX motherboard. The P67A-UD3 does not support SLI. Maybe take a XFX HD 6870 $180 after rebate instead?
Also the P67A-UD3 will do CFX @ x16/x4 instead of the preferred x8/x8. If you went with a CFX setup you'd loose some overall performance. This isn't a total downcheck though. You might just keep upgrading with single video card, but the CFX option would be there.
P67A-UD4 (not yet shown up at NewEgg) is a x8/x8 CFX & SLI board.


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WR2   03-17-2011 at 01:45:58 AM

What resolution is that monitor of yours?

Your TX850 V2 850W is sized for a couple really powerful video cards. Do you have upgrade plans for a couple GTX 580s or something like that?

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dkooys   03-17-2011 at 01:52:23 AM

Thanks for your input. I didn't realize that the mother board was crossfire x until now. I forgot to mention that I am getting a ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner. I didn't get get the cpu cooler and cpu in a combo. You already helped me out on that so thanks. I might possibly upgrade in the near future. Ill take a look at the motherboard you suggested and get back to ya. Thanks again for your response.

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dkooys   03-17-2011 at 01:55:28 AM

Is the XFX HD 6870 better the the gtx 460. Also I couldn't find the combo deal of the cpu and cooler.

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WR2   03-17-2011 at 02:02:40 AM

Click on the link above to get to the CPU/cooler combo deal.

What games will you be playing the most? What monitor resolution?
GTX 460/HD 6870 are pretty close in price AND performance.

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WR2   03-17-2011 at 02:03:28 AM

How soon do you plan to get your parts?

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dkooys   03-17-2011 at 02:07:11 AM

1680x1050 is my current monitor resolution. I am planning on playing SC2 and Diablo 3 when it comes out. Might give crysis 2 a shot also. I added that combo btw. So If I go with the video card you suggested, do you see any flaws with this build?

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WR2   03-17-2011 at 02:11:03 AM

Nothing major. SC2 does favor the Nvidia cards over the AMD/ATI cards.
If you want to keep the GTX 460 and have an SLI option we can find a motherboard for that.

Also we can get a good quality 650W PSU that will have enough power for 2x GTX 460s or GTX 560 Tis if you upgrade your monitor to a 1920x1080 model or go for dual 1680x1050s

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dkooys   03-17-2011 at 02:15:16 AM

Well I went through cyberpower, but ran into problems with them. So hopefully I will get a refund in a few days so I can order this. I went with that power supply b/c it came in a combo with the hard drive. I figured I would need at least a 750 watt power supply if I upgraded my video card. Starcraft 2 is the main game I will be playing. Why does SC@ favor NVIDIA? whats the difference? Thanks for your help btw man

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WR2   03-17-2011 at 02:23:02 AM

Some games just seem to favor one brand over the other.
THG: StarCraft II Revisited: How Much Gaming PC Do You Need? They're recommending the GTX 460 or better.

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dkooys   03-17-2011 at 02:27:16 AM

Well I couldn't find a decent motherboard/price that supports nvidia. Any Ideas?

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dkooys   03-17-2011 at 02:33:26 AM

Let me do some more research, and ill get back to ya man, thanks for all the help again so far.

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WR2   03-17-2011 at 02:34:45 AM

Be sure to let us know how things work out.

Here is a Step-by-Step Guide to Building a PC

Look over the forum's "System won't boot" checklist to see some of the common build errors and how to avoid them.

-> The usual advice; read the manual / install guide; look at the parts, read the manual again and if everything makes sense and looks right - then go ahead with the install.

While you're waiting you can download the online version of the motherboard manual and start getting familiar with it. Same for the other parts you want to order if they have install guides or manuals available.

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dkooys   03-17-2011 at 05:50:12 PM

Ok I did some more research and this is what I came up with. Any Compatability or flaws that anyone can see?

DVD/CD Drive: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Video Card: GIGABYTE Super Overclock Series GV-N460SO-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI ...
Memory: Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3B1K2/4GX
Motherboard: MSI P67A-GD53 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Power Supply: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit


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dkooys   03-17-2011 at 05:57:09 PM

So the MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard you sent wouldn't work for dual Nvidia cards correct?

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WR2   03-17-2011 at 05:59:01 PM

It WILL work with 2x Nvidia cards in SLI. Or 2x AMD/ATX cards in CFX.

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dkooys   03-17-2011 at 06:04:24 PM

It has to say SLI in the name then? Is MSI a top brand vmotherboard?

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dkooys   03-18-2011 at 04:15:37 AM

Ok I did some more research and this is what I came up with. Any Compatability or flaws that anyone can see?

DVD/CD Drive: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Video Card: GIGABYTE Super Overclock Series GV-N460SO-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI ...
Memory: Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3B1K2/4GX
Motherboard: MSI P67A-GD53 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Power Supply: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

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WR2   03-18-2011 at 04:23:55 AM

That set of RAM is 1.65v @ 1600 which is above the standard 1.5V. Your motherboard will probably chose to run the RAM @ 1333 & 1.5V.
Still it's a very good set of RAM and a great value. Here is a review: Kingston HyperX blu KHX1600C9D3B1K2/4GX Review @ OverclockersClub

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WR2   03-18-2011 at 04:26:04 AM

The top brands of MBs are probably Asus and Gigabyte. Asrock and MSI would be just a notch below them but still good hardware and usually at a bargain price.

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dkooys   03-18-2011 at 04:35:02 AM

So I need to change out my ram to get 1600 correct?

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WR2   03-18-2011 at 04:36:02 AM

Ok, everything's been double checked for compatibility and its all good.
You have a larger PSU than necessary but that's not a problem of course.

Have you checked to see if there are combo deals with your parts choices you haven't grabbed?

Im looking through the St Patricks Day sales email letter.
http://www.newegg.com/index.aspx look under View our latest Email specials

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WR2   03-18-2011 at 04:37:02 AM

The RAM set you picked is fine. When you first setup the system the RAM will probably run @ 1333 automatically. You'll be able to adjust the setting in the BIOS to get 1600.

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dkooys   03-18-2011 at 04:42:51 AM

Alright Just 1 more question and then I am good to go. Im going to buy a few APEVIA CF12SL-URED 120mm Red LED Case Fan. Are they compatable? Also whcih video card do you think is better? I was told that in order to make computers more compatable you should try to buy everything from the same company, or you will likely have more problems with it. Not sure if thats true or not.

GIGABYTE Super Overclock Series GV-N460SO-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB
or
GIGABYTE Ultra Durable VGA Series GV-N460OC2-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB

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WR2   03-18-2011 at 04:48:55 AM

I couldnt find anything in todays sales that is a better deal than what you already have.

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WR2   03-18-2011 at 04:50:47 AM

Here is a side-by-side comparison of the two cards so you can see what the extra $10 gets you.
UD GV-N460OC2 vs SO GV-N460SO-

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dkooys   03-18-2011 at 04:51:06 AM

And I keep thinking of more stuff. Will I need thermal paste, or will it come with the cooler already on it?

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WR2   03-18-2011 at 04:52:58 AM

Do you want to get a red fan for your Hyper 212+?

The same company=more compatible theory sounds right buy in practice it doesnt always quite work out that way. I wouldn't pass up a great bargain just becauses it's a different MGFRs for the MB and GPU.

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WR2   03-18-2011 at 04:57:17 AM

The Hyper 212+ has it's own thermal compound in the accessory pack. It's that tube on the lower left.
http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/35-103-065-Z06?$S640$

COOLER MASTER SickleFlow 120 R4-L2R-20AR-R1 120mm Silent operation Red LED case fan has a higher air flow and lower noise profile than the stock CPU fan.

You'll notice a 2nd set of fan rails - those black rails on the right side - that you can use to mount a 2nd fan on the Hyper 212+ in a push-pull config.

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WR2   03-18-2011 at 05:00:25 AM

Both fans are the same price.
CM: 69.69 CFM & 19 dBA
Apevia: 57.67 CFM & 24.7 dBA

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dkooys   03-18-2011 at 05:08:28 AM

The fans are going to be case fans. Looking for the red LED look. But what do you mean about both fans being the same price?

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WR2   03-18-2011 at 05:15:52 AM

COOLER MASTER SickleFlow 120 R4-L2R-20AR-R1 120mm Silent operation Red LED case fan $8.99
APEVIA CF12SL-URED 120mm Red LED Case Fan $8.99

You use a 'case fan' as the fan on the CPU cooler. Using a red LED case fan on your cpu cooler - gives you a red LED fan on your Hyper 212+.

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WR2   03-18-2011 at 05:16:42 AM

The same price as in $8.99. The CM moves more are and is quieter.

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dkooys   03-18-2011 at 05:18:53 AM

Ohh ok man. Na I was just going to use them on the front of the case to give a red glow. Ill go with those fans though, they look a little better and are the same price. Anyways It looks like I got my build figured out. Thanks a lot for your time and ill let you know how it works out.

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dkooys   03-18-2011 at 06:50:08 AM

Hey after reading reviews, I read something where the GIGABYTE Super Overclock Series GV-N460SO-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB takes up 2 spaces. Do you know if this is true? Also One other thing I am concerned with is the coolermaster hyper 212. It looks big and I don't know if it will fit in my coolermaster haf 912.

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WR2   03-18-2011 at 10:44:18 AM

Hyper 212+ is very big and it does fit.
Both SO GV-N460SO and UD GV-N460OC2 are double slot graphics cards.

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SO GV-N460SO / UD GV-N460OC2 / single slot graphics card

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-125-345-Z02?$S300W$ http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-125-352-Z02?$S300W$ http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-130-531-Z02?$S300W$

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dkooys   03-18-2011 at 04:33:52 PM

So with this graphic card, I wouldn't be able to put two of them in correct?

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WR2   03-18-2011 at 05:00:08 PM

No problem at all with 2x video cards. The video card slots are 3x slots apart.

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-130-572-Z02?$S640$

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aznthunderj   03-19-2011 at 07:37:05 PM

This build is exactly what I was looking For! Thanks OP. WR2 was wondering if these parts would work with the build.

case

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129021

and then upgrade to

Antec Lanboy air Blue Black / Blue Computer Modular Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

Ram
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231314



SDD

Kingston SSDNow V+ Series SNVP325-S2B/64GB 2.5" 64GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820139112


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WR2   03-19-2011 at 09:26:00 PM

@ aznthunderj

No problems with using those parts. I think we can find a better SSD for that price though. I'll find your topic and give it a bump with a SSD upgrade.

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dkooys   03-23-2011 at 03:19:57 PM

Ok, I finally got my refund. But I had to change up my build a little bit cuz the mother board i want is sold out. So if you think this is a good build i will order this all now


ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
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COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
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GIGABYTE Super Overclock Series GV-N460SO-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

GIGABYTE Super Overclock Series GV-N460SO-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI ...
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Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3B1K2/4GX

Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3B1K2/4GX
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GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD4-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD4-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
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COOLER MASTER SickleFlow 120 R4-L2R-20AR-R1 120mm Silent operation Red LED case fan

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CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

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Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7

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WR2   03-23-2011 at 03:24:30 PM

Sweet! GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD4-B3 in stock finally.
Excellent choice!

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dkooys   03-23-2011 at 03:26:09 PM

Thanks man. So everything is compatible and every thing looks solid?

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WR2   03-23-2011 at 03:34:26 PM

The extra discount on the Kingston RAM expired. It's not quite such as great a deal ATM.
For only $8 extra (shipping included) I think maybe go with the DDR3 1600 G.SKILL Ripjaws X 4GB Kit

It's safe to leave that wrist strap out of the parts list.

Did you get Win7 in a combo deal?

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