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March 17, 2011 10:01:15 AM

I am rebuilding my first computer. I bought this in nov 2010 and learned alot like SATA 6 Gb/s HHD is no faster, 8g of ram is useless with win7 32bit and 64bit needs all new drivers. I'd like to made it preform better. It's mostly a hobby thing, being 60 and retired. I do play Civ 5 and Battlefield 2 and watch netflix.
This is what I have now:

AOC 24" Widescreen LCD TV/Monitor 1080p, 1920x1080, 10000:1, 6:9 $230
ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, AMD 890GX, DDR3, USB 3, SATA 6Gb/s $140
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Quad Core 3.40GHz, Socket AM3, 6M Cache $160
ULTRA X-WIND COPPER FAN K8/AM3 $ 40
XFX HD-577X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 1GB DDR5 PCI Express $160
Crucial Dual Channel 8GM PC8500 DDR3 1066MHz Memory (4 x 2GB) $135
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit OS Software $100
Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB, 7200 RPM, 64 MB Cache, SATA 6 Gb/s $ 90
Seagate Barracuda 7200 Hard Drive - 750GB, 7200RPM, 16MB $ 80
Lite-On DVD Writer DVD+R 24x, DVD+RW 8x, CD-R 48x, CD-RW 32x $ 20
Creative Labs SB0570L4 Sound Blaster Audigy SE Sound Card $ 30
Medialink Wireless G USB Adapter 802.11g 54Mbps 2.4ghz Windows 7 $ 25
Ultra 650-Watt Power Supply ATX, SATA-Ready, 135mm Fan $ 70
XION Vantage ATX Mid-Tower Case AXP100 $ 50
Dane-Elec USB Flash Drive 8GB (Dedicated ReadyBoost) $ 9
Inland Pro PS/2 Style Keyboard $ 10
L23-9024 Logitech Optical Mouse - USB $ 13

Should i up the ram to 16gb?
PC10666, PC12800, PC16000?
Should i use 2 HDD at rad 0?
Should i get a better vid card?
or add a second Radeon HD 5770?

I need suggestions, tweaks, advice. Thanks

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March 17, 2011 11:55:44 AM

No need to go to 16GB or faster timings on the RAM. 8GB is plenty and faster RAM at most gains only about 1-2 fps. Check out Toms for benchmarks on this.

RAID 0 would really be just for fun. Most disks are fast enough that load times aren't bad at all. With RAID 0, if one of your disk dies, forget about recovering any data whatsoever (this happened to me - Thanks Maxtor!). This is the most expensive data recovery procedure out there. You have to send your disks to places that also specialize in forensic data recovery ($$$$) to get your data back if you have a failure. Because of that, I don't think the performance gain is worth it.

I would definitely get a better video card. Depending on how much you'd like to spend and what quality you want to play at, you could go for a Radeon 5870, 6950 or 6970. Each one will get you different levels of performance from left to right and lowest to highest (on most titles):

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-6950-6970-review/2...

These would all be better options than a 5770 or two 5770s. Plus, you could always grab another one of these better cards at a later date.

Something else to consider if you aren't going to be an extreme over-clocker is picking up a Corsair H50 or H70 as your CPU cooler. The space on your motherboard is pretty tight between the processor and the RAM. This type of cooler will make it easier for you to access all your RAM slots.
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March 17, 2011 2:58:16 PM

I agree with ubercake.....get a better video card or get another 5770.
Raid-0 is cool, but and SSD is even better.

With an SSD you will notice the performance gains right away.

Ram speed depends on how much you want to overclock. It will help stabilize it, otherwise speed isn't going to effect your performance. If you really want to upgrade your ram, then get some that are CAS 7. Lower CAS is always better than megaherts.
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March 18, 2011 1:26:05 AM

Thanks guys, i'll look for a better vcard. but on windows experience index the disk data transfer rate is a 5.9 so i got the Caviar Black 1 TB, 64 MB Cache, SATA 6 Gb/s but it didn't help. all the other scores are 7.4 even the graphic. i'll look at the ssd drives too. your help is greatly appreciated.
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March 18, 2011 1:59:47 AM

If you really want a fast SSD check this one out.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you are running a 6g/s interface it has a average read rate of 355 mb/s (average being the key word) and from a brand like crucial it will work at max efficiency worth less power consumption, and heat! :angel:
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March 18, 2011 2:08:34 AM

I found some HD 6950 with 2MB but i'm not sure which is better.
Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 2 GB DDR5 DL-DVI-I/SL-DVI-D/HD Mini DP PCI-Express Graphics Card 100312SR $276.99
HIS Radeon HD 6950 2 GB (256bit) GDDR5 Eyefinity 2x Mini-DisplayPort HDMI 2x DVI (HDCP) PCI Express X16 2.1 Video Card Retail H695F2G2M $279.99
ASUS ATI Radeon HD6950 2GB DDR5 2DVI/HDMI/2x Mini DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card EAH6950/2DI2S/2GD5 $289.99
Any suggestions or advice. Thanks
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March 18, 2011 5:08:29 AM

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February 3, 2012 9:09:54 PM

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