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Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 1:47:13 AM

Intel Quad Core q8300 2.5Ghz
XFXa 5770 1GB
8GB RAM
550w thermaltake black widow

Which one should I upgrade and when should I upgrade?
i need to turn my gpu fan up to max or ill get no signal monitor crash so I think I might buy a new gpu in my local Best Buy store,
I saw a gtx460 and gtx550 a few months ago
I didnt really see any processors but Im afraid it might bottleneck if I dont upgrade it
Help please?
EDIT:I dont want to spend that much money....I might be able to buy the stufff online though but idk what is compatible.

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June 18, 2011 2:34:57 AM

Hi,

What are you using your box for? and what do you want to do with it in the future?

Greg
Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 2:58:19 AM

Box?
EDIT: Oh gaming mostly and youtube
Gaming in the future lol
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a b à CPUs
June 18, 2011 3:46:09 AM

550 is really no better than the 5770 so 460 it is....as long as it is the 1GB non SE version
a b à CPUs
June 18, 2011 4:11:57 AM

Still, that's not much of an improvement.
Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 4:20:23 AM

Well what should i upgrade to then?
a b à CPUs
June 18, 2011 4:21:29 AM

Still better than no card if his old one is crapping out. But why best buy? Last time I was there (a week ago or so) it was $250! You can get a 560 or 6950 for that price on newegg and they are way faster...'\

edit: checked again so yeah the one in store is $250 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/PNY+-+NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+46... but there are other models you can order to the store of your choosing, which are cheaper and way better bang for the buck. I wouldn't spend $250 on a 460.
Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 5:36:37 AM

Alright, so I should only upgrade my gpu? wouldn't my cpu bottleneck it or is that okay?
EDIT: Not sure if the gpu will fit though lol
send me a link of a good card?
Under $350 please
a b à CPUs
June 18, 2011 5:55:20 AM

your cpu shouldn't be the bottleneck, what if you get a 6870, or a 6950 (you can flash the BIOS of a 6950 into a 6970)
Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 6:24:32 AM

I don't know how to do that lol. Okay so my cpu is good enough? I want to get a card under $350 and would last my whole computer another 2 years before i get a new computer.
EDIT: No signal crash still happens with my fan 100 percent on
it was around 100c while i was playing BC2
so it mustve been higher than 100c
Still dont know if it's a gpu issue though.
How about dual 5770s? I might still have the issue.
a b à CPUs
June 18, 2011 12:30:05 PM

Not sure about regional price differences - but over here in the UK the 560Ti's are around £170.00 so that would be about $260.00 - an is an epic peformer and overclocker too
Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 3:56:42 PM

Well should I get another 5770 or a card like 560Ti or 6970?
Anyone give me a link for a good video card that I could buy?
Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 4:57:43 PM

bump
a b à CPUs
June 18, 2011 6:33:07 PM

when i answered your question yesterday, I suggested a 6870 or a 6950, and I didn't mention anything about 5770 in crossfire because you mentioned that your current card is having issues. Now if you are sure they are resolved, you could go for another 5770, and get a nice performance boost.
a b à CPUs
June 18, 2011 6:36:11 PM

or go for a gtx 560ti, they are good, and have headroom for overclocking.
Nvidia cards have better drivers, and more headroom for overclocking.
AMD cards are good but they already have most of their performance squeezed out, Im not saying that you cant overclock them, but that nvidia oc's further, but that also differs from card to card.
Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 6:55:51 PM

Alright, can you find a gtx560ti on newegg? Also would it last for over 1 1/2 year and without upgrading my cpu? I also found out that the 5770 is common for the no signal issue. But it also could be my psu's fault. It's a 550w, should I get a new one when I get my gtx 560ti? reply fast please thx
EDIT: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
How about that
a c 81 à CPUs
June 18, 2011 7:50:32 PM

Theoretically a 550W PSU should be enough. Not sure about that units quality though (Thermaltake units are not that great). That EVGA GTX 560 Ti is sweet. Surely get it.
Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 8:05:08 PM

Raidur said:
Don't bother with the SuperClocked version if you plan on manually overclocking.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'd go for that one.

550w should be more than enough.

yea but my 5770 is having issues overheating and constantly getting no signal crashes on my monitor after a few hours of gaming and also my old 4890 which overheated to 115 celsius and broke.
Also Im overclocking it with rivatuner I think, is that manually?
And the card will fit right?
a b à CPUs
June 18, 2011 8:27:18 PM

Ok OK there, the very fist thing you need to do before investing in any new hardware is sort out your PCs heat issues, we need details and pictures if possible of the case and case fans your using, as it seems to me that for your 5770 to be shutting down you have some serious ventilation issues that must be sorted out, otherwise you will just fry any new kit you buy, so let us no exactly your pc details and we will try and help.
Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 8:59:05 PM

I think it's the card's issue because a month ago I just installed a fan that cooled down my cpu and my gpu a bit, and I think it might be my psu since i had it when I had my 4890 which had insane temperatures, and when I got my new 5770 the issue was still there
EDIT: Also my 5770 didnt ever reach 100c actually. I got the no signal issue when I play over 5 or so hours of games. My old 4890 shut down my pc when I had 110 to 115c, but this 5770 doesnt sound like a heat issue even though my gpu is at like 70c idle.
Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 9:41:11 PM

I think I'm going to get the card and then go to best buy to check because that's where I always go lol.
a b à CPUs
June 18, 2011 10:12:45 PM

order it online, you will wait a few days for delivery, but it will be cheaper :) 
The 560ti will serve you well, don't get another 5770 if your current one is malfunctioning, your problems would just pile up.
Also check out the Asus gtx 560ti Direct Cu II it is only $10 more, and it has much better cooling, it is silent, and is more reliable.
Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 10:16:09 PM

Alright I will, in less than 20 minutes Ill post a picture of the information on my power supply.
EDIT: Give me a link of that gpu please?
Also how long would a card like that last? I hope it was last for like 2 years before I buy a new pc
Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 10:43:24 PM

AC OUTPUT: 115V/230V 10/5A 50HZ/60HZ
+5V & 3.3V combined 140v
DC OUTPUT
DC OUTPUT +3.3V +5V +12V +12V -12V +5V&B
MAX OUTPUT CURRENT 30A 28A 16A 17A 0.3A 3.A
MIN 0.5A 0.3A 1.0A 1.0A 0A 0A
PEAK 3.5A
Couldnt take picture, words were too small
a b à CPUs
June 18, 2011 11:15:55 PM

Try to give that cpu a little overclock to around 2.8 or so. That would be a decent combo with a 560 ti.
Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 11:18:45 PM

alright, how? lol and is my psu enough?
a b à CPUs
June 18, 2011 11:24:12 PM

You should be able to get around 3.0GHZ on stock voltage, 2.8 is almost guaranteed with no extra voltage. So your power supply shouldn't be hit any harder for a mild to moderate overclock. There is a core2 overclocking guide in the overclocking section.
Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 11:29:22 PM

Alright so I need a link to Asus gtx 560ti Direct Cu II on newegg please. Also are you sure the card would fit in the case? Just making sure lol
EDIT: Do I need to overclock my cpu lol it looks difficult
a b à CPUs
June 18, 2011 11:45:13 PM

LOL, no you don't need to, but it will make for a more balanced computer IMO. It really isn't difficult and a mild overclock is very safe with a small amount of know how. For 2.8 you can pretty much leave everything on auto except ram speed,ram voltage and timings. Anything higher than that and we start talking more things set manually.
a b à CPUs
June 18, 2011 11:53:32 PM

Actually I forgot how low your multiplier is, so you'll need to set a couple/few more things manually. I would read some guides before doing it and go from there. I don't want to make this thread a how to overclock my quad discussion.
Anonymous
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June 18, 2011 11:57:57 PM

Alright so I buy this card, install it and that's it right? And I guess my PSU is sufficent.
Anonymous
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June 19, 2011 12:38:15 AM

Helllllooooooooooooooo
a b à CPUs
June 19, 2011 3:10:35 AM

hi,
I am happy to see you followed some of my advice on your gpu issue, the Asus Gtx 560ti is cooler, silent, and has high quality components, according to the manufacture they will last 2.5 times longer. Not to mention that it has a standard factory overclock, and all this for an extra $10, a great deal.
Now about your power supply, it has 550 watts, which should be more than enough, if in doubt go and check with this psu calculator
I ran a calculation on your pc and it came out to be 472watts so your psu should be enough.
http://antec.outervision.com/PSUEngine

Happy to help :) 
Anonymous
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June 19, 2011 3:19:44 AM

fil1p said:
hi,
I am happy to see you followed some of my advice on your gpu issue, the Asus Gtx 560ti is cooler, silent, and has high quality components, according to the manufacture they will last 2.5 times longer. Not to mention that it has a standard factory overclock, and all this for an extra $10, a great deal.
Now about your power supply, it has 550 watts, which should be more than enough, if in doubt go and check with this psu calculator
I ran a calculation on your pc and it came out to be 472watts so your psu should be enough.
http://antec.outervision.com/PSUEngine

Happy to help :) 

Alright, so without upgrading anything else, I should be okay rite? 2 years later, in 2013 Ill get a new computer, will it last me that long?
EDIT: So you tested with my new bought GTX560?
Anonymous
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June 19, 2011 3:58:38 AM

Please reply on my last post.
When I got my 5770 last year in May
I was getting 50s celsius idle and 90s celsius while gaming which isnt normal
now its getting even higher
It started when I had my 4890 for a couple of months in Jan 2010, I thought buying a new gpu would fix the problem, but it didn't. However I didn't care for it at that time.
Now im afraid the same thing would happen with this card, but it's nvidia instead of ATI. I have 3 fans in my case, CPU fan, 1 GPU fan and a extra fan that is close to both the cpu and the gpu, but my 5770 is still overheating. My gtx560ti will have dual fans but Im still not sure.
a c 81 à CPUs
June 19, 2011 5:26:00 AM

If 472W is what your setup demands then your PSU is not sufficient for the build. It has 33A on the combined 12V line giving a total output power of 396W.
Anonymous
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June 19, 2011 5:50:41 AM

Oh, so what psu should I get?
Also fil1p, can you test how many watts my setup demands with my 5770?
Anonymous
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June 19, 2011 6:51:16 AM

My parents threw my papers out with the order number on it from best buy where I bought my 5770 so when I install my gtx560ti the card I can't do anything with it since it overheats.
Anonymous
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June 19, 2011 7:07:22 AM

I NEED TO KNOW IF THIS NO SIGNAL MONITOR CRASH ISSUE IS MY GPU OR MY POWER SUPPLY BECAUSE I WAS PLAYING CRYSIS 2 AND IT JUST WENT BLACK ONCE AGAIN.
MOST LIKELY PSU ISSUE
I need to get a new one
but when I upgrade I dont know what to do with my 5770 since I cant RMA it lol
Do you guys think the no signal issue still will exist when I change my gpu and psu? and what watts should I get at least?
a c 81 à CPUs
June 19, 2011 9:57:49 AM

First make sure all your device drivers are up to date. Then I recommend upgrading the PSU first before upgrading the video card. Hopefully that will stabilize your PC.
Anonymous
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June 19, 2011 7:23:58 PM

All my drivers are up to date, I already bought my gpu though so even if I didn't have the no signal problem I would still upgrade my gpu. I still think it'll stabilize my pc. Do you think it's a psu problem?
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June 19, 2011 9:01:41 PM

Quote:
I NEED TO KNOW IF THIS NO SIGNAL MONITOR CRASH ISSUE IS MY GPU OR MY POWER SUPPLY BECAUSE I WAS PLAYING CRYSIS 2 AND IT JUST WENT BLACK ONCE AGAIN.
MOST LIKELY PSU ISSUE
I need to get a new one
but when I upgrade I dont know what to do with my 5770 since I cant RMA it lol
Do you guys think the no signal issue still will exist when I change my gpu and psu? and what watts should I get at least?



It happend to me all the time on the latest drivers, try rolling them back to as early as 10.2 im using 10.3
Anonymous
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June 19, 2011 9:05:05 PM

Lol I did, to 10.5 10.6 11.1, doesnt look like a driver problem
Maybe if it is, then do I have to upgrade my psu when I get my gtx560? since it's a nvidia card......
I think I should because my 5770 is overheating, has been since I bought it
abnormal 73c while browsing the internet, 57 percent fan speed.
Anonymous
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June 19, 2011 10:39:48 PM

abnormal 73c while browsing the internet, 57 percent fan speed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous
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June 20, 2011 12:41:56 AM

BUMP
a b à CPUs
June 20, 2011 2:55:57 AM

How long have you had the card ? If any longer than 8 months you likely need to blow it out with compressed air or take it all the way apart if you feel comfortable doing so, I find compressed air does not get all the dust bunnies
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