DOA CPU or Motherboard

I just built my first computer, and I'm getting no video and no POST beeps. I'm bench testing on cardboard with only CPU and HSF and I'm getting no beeps. I also tried with GPU, RAM, CPU and HSF with the same problem. Help!
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  1. I just tested the mobo without the CPU in, no beeps? Does this mean the mobo is DOA?
  2. Have you tried testing your power supply? My Antec 500-watt unit recently died. My PC would randomly not POST until it got to the point where it wouldn't power anything except my case fans and the hard drives. Swap yours out with another one to rule it out. Also, don't skimp on your choice of power supply as a low-quality one can give you problems in the near future. I'm sold on the Seasonic brand and have the X650 in my system.
  3. read book manual installation, check again with your installation, unplug power ac to psu, remove cpu (be carefully) clean thermal paste , check pin cpu , if it seem all clear , put again , sure locked in socket. Replace new thermal paste and put hsf, sure locked. Check all cable connector to fan hsf, mb,vga, hdd, try ram in another slot . plug ac power to psu , try turn on pc.
  4. What are the components?
  5. CPU: Phenom ii X4 955 BE @ 3.2GHZ
    CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 Plus
    RAM: GSkill Ripjaw 2x2GB
    PSU: Corsair Enthusiant 650W
    GPU: Sapphire 6850
    Mobo: MSI 870A-G54
  6. Is the PSU turning on? If so test the voltages and verfiy you have volatge at the 8pin cpu connector.

    That board does not have built in switches, how are you trying to turn it on?
  7. The PSU is turning on, and the CPU indicates via LEDs that it is getting to stage 4 CPU power/phases, which means it is getting voltage from 8pin cpu. I'm shorting the two power pins with a screwdriver, but it didn't work in the case either.
  8. Check that you CPU doesn't have any bent pin and that your cooler is properly installed.
  9. chaoschief said:
    I just tested the mobo without the CPU in, no beeps? Does this mean the mobo is DOA?

    With no CPU installed, you will get no beeps.

    Breadboard your system and test in stages.

    The following is an expansion of my troubleshooting tips in the breadboarding link in the "Cannot boot" thread.

    I have tested the following beep patterns on Gigabyte, eVGA, and ECS motherboards. Other BIOS' may be different, but they all use a single short beep for a successful POST.

    Breadboard - that will help isolate any kind of case problem you might have.

    Breadboard with just motherboard, CPU & HSF, case speaker, and PSU.

    Make sure you plug the CPU power cable in. The system will not boot without it.

    I always breadboard a new build. It takes only a few minutes, and you know you are putting good parts in the case once you are finished.

    You can turn on the PC by momentarily shorting the two pins that the case power switch goes to. You should hear a series of long, single beeps indicating memory problems. Silence indicates a problem with (in most likely order) the PSU, motherboard, or CPU. Remember, at this time, you do not have a graphics card installed so the load on your PSU will be reduced.

    If no beeps:
    Running fans and drives and motherboard LED's do not necessarily indicate a good PSU. In the absence of a single short beep, they also do not indicate that the system is booting.

    At this point, you can sort of check the PSU. Try to borrow a known good PSU of around 550 - 600 watts. That will power just about any system with a single GPU. If you cannot do that, use a DMM to measure the voltages. Measure between the colored wires and either chassis ground or the black wires. Yellow wires should be 12 volts. Red wires: +5 volts, orange wires: +3.3 volts, blue wire : -12 volts, violet wire: 5 volts always on. Tolerances are +/- 5% except for the -12 volts which is +/- 10%.

    The gray wire is really important. It should go from 0 to +5 volts when you turn the PSU on with the case switch. CPU needs this signal to boot.

    You can turn on the PSU by completely disconnecting the PSU and using a paperclip or jumper wire to short the green wire to one of the neighboring black wires.

    A way that might be easier is to use the main power plug. Working from the back of the plug where the wires come out, use a bare paperclip to short between the green wire and one of the neighboring black wires. That will do the same thing with an installed PSU. It is also an easy way to bypass a questionable case power switch.

    This checks the PSU under no load conditions, so it is not completely reliable. But if it can not pass this, it is dead. Then repeat the checks with the PSU plugged into the computer to put a load on the PSU.

    If the system beeps:
    If it looks like the PSU is good, install a memory stick. Boot. Beep pattern should change to one long and several short beeps indicating a missing graphics card.

    Silence, long single beeps, or series of short beeps indicate a problem with the memory. If you get short beeps verify that the memory is in the appropriate motherboard slots.

    Insert the video card and connect any necessary PCIe power connectors. Boot. At this point, the system should POST successfully (a single short beep). Notice that you do not need keyboard, mouse, monitor, or drives to successfully POST.
    At this point, if the system doesn't work, it's either the video card or an inadequate PSU. Or rarely - the motherboard's PCIe interface.

    Now start connecting the rest of the devices starting with the monitor, then keyboard and mouse, then the rest of the devices, testing after each step. It's possible that you can pass the POST with a defective video card. The POST routines can only check the video interface. It cannot check the internal parts of the video card.
  10. I've determined it was the motherboard. I know it's not the PSU because the motherboard has lights that indicate CPU power phases, and all 4 LEDs for that light up. Many others report this with my motherboard, so it's gotta be the motherboard. There's no beep with only the CPU & HSF, speaker and PSU installed.
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