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*Actual* Need help deciding on a graphics card

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January 13, 2011 4:53:21 PM

Budget is at around $100 (for the card, maybe $80 on the PSU).

I already found a PSU that will fit my computer (HP p6320f) http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RS550-PCARA3-US-eXt...

I WOULD like to get an ATI card. http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-HD-5570-PCI-Expre...

Here is a Nvidia.. http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-nVidia-GeForce-PCI-Express-0...

My computer has 8 gigs of ddr3 ram. Phenom II x4 820 I believe.

I'm looking to get the best possible 1 GB DDR3 card. Also, what about the core clock speed, shader clock speed, and memory clock? Does higher mean better? 50/50 chances says yes in my opinion.

Remember, I am looking in this general area of cards. I am confined to the dimensions of that PSU up top. I also need the wire that goes to the card to be able to dedicate 25 amps or whatever the card takes.

What other cards are out there that fall into this range?

Thanks :D 

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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2011 5:05:40 PM

If you plan on playing games you will be disapointed in either of those cards. I would go with a minimum of a GT 240 or a HD 5670, or a HD 5770 if you can afford it. That power supply will be fine for any of them.

Good single slot 5670 for $70 after rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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January 13, 2011 5:55:53 PM

Alright. I will look at those suggestions now. Will that card fit in my tower? It looks pretty big lol.

One more thing here. What about ddr5? I was reading that it will work fine with ddr3, but not to its "max" capabilities?
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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2011 6:10:45 PM

GDDR5 (or 3) has no relation to your system memory and will not be limited in performance by your PCs DDR3 (I think that's what your asking). The card I linked to is actually a little smaller than the GT 220 you had linked to in the OP so it should be fine If the slot next to your PCI-E slot is available you should get a dual slot card, there are more choices available with them and they generally cool better, I linked to single slot because the cards you had picked out from Amazon were single slot.
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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2011 6:13:38 PM

Get a hd4870 1gb gddr5. Better than the hd5770, just older tech. It will handle most games at medium - high settings. Also my OCZ 600w PSU (StealthXstream 600w) is great, take a look at that. Higher mem, core and shaders do not always mean better. If you have two different card one with more core and one with less, the one with less might win. It depends on architecture. If you compare a hd6850 and a hd6870, the hd6870 has better clocks, so it wins because they are the same architecture. They are the same architecture because as you can see, they are both 68xx series, they would not be is the were say a 6950 because even though the most numbers are the same, there is a 9 were the eight would be. Now, even though they have 6xxx series out in no way means that the hd4870 is bad. For your price range, the hd4870 is great. So, My recommendation to you is a hd4870 and a OCZ stealtXstream 600w. (assuming that your case is a case that will hold both of those, I do not know)
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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2011 6:17:59 PM

He has a poorly ventilated HP case so a 4870 might not be the best choice, and unless it's signifigantly cheaper I wouldn't recommend a 4870 over a 5770, performance is close enough that the 5770 wins because of DX11 and power consuption/heat IMO.
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January 13, 2011 6:17:59 PM

Alrighty. Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I like ATI. So I'll start saving for that card. It won't be a pain to get rid of my Nvidia on-board graphics right? Just uninstall the video driver and disable the on-board :) ?

I could go to dual slot. HP has this wireless crap in the slot next to the X16. It has another fan in the back already. If I go dual, would you have any recommendation about a card? I need it to fit with that power supply again (HP.... what a mess).
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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2011 6:21:18 PM

Yer, just uninstall the drivers and disable in the BIOS. If you have the space the hd6850 is good too, you could look at that. :) 
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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2011 6:27:45 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you can afford a little extra and have the room for it this would be a better gaming card than that 5670, but it is quite a bit longer in addition to being dual slot so make sure you have room and that it's not going to block sata connectors on your motherboard or something.

There are also some GTS 450's for under $100, but they aren't as fast as a 5770.

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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2011 6:29:04 PM

You won't find a 6850 under $170.
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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2011 6:32:45 PM

benski said:
You won't find a 6850 under $170.

I know, I thought if he was saving. He said he was saving for a hd5770, I thought maybe he could save for a hd6850, mine is great.
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January 13, 2011 6:35:00 PM

Ok. Now um, one more thing here. I'm looking to play Guild wars 2 when it comes out. That's the only computer game I'll play. I'm thinking the first card (5670) will do just fine. So, I don't need anything too crazy like other gamers lol.

Do you know what is up with the 5670 card? I looked at photos and it doesn't look like I have to connect it with a power supply cable? I see it just plugging straight into the board..
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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2011 6:37:25 PM

It doesn't look like you need a 6-pin.
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January 13, 2011 6:43:46 PM

kk. And we are sure that the power supply up top that I originally posted will support a 5670? Max load and all that?
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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2011 6:44:37 PM

Yeah the 5670 doesn't require external power. You might even get away with running it off your stock power supply.

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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2011 6:45:53 PM

Enz said:
kk. And we are sure that the power supply up top that I originally posted will support a 5670? Max load and all that?

The hd5670 requires 400w LOAD. You have 550w, you will be fine.
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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2011 6:46:46 PM

By the way.......... HAVE FUN WITH YOUR NEW GPU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)  :D  :) 
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January 13, 2011 6:48:22 PM

Okay! Thanks so much for your help :D . I truly appreciate the expertise <3
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a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2011 6:52:30 PM

Enz said:
Okay! Thanks so much for your help :D . I truly appreciate the expertise <3

No problem. ;) 
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January 13, 2011 10:48:34 PM

benski said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you can afford a little extra and have the room for it this would be a better gaming card than that 5670, but it is quite a bit longer in addition to being dual slot so make sure you have room and that it's not going to block sata connectors on your motherboard or something.

There are also some GTS 450's for under $100, but they aren't as fast as a 5770.


Actually the ASUS Top GTS 450 out performs the HD 5770

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Checkout this link. you can start from the beginning or page 7.
http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1068&page=7
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a b U Graphics card
January 14, 2011 2:44:22 PM

^Impressive factory overclock, but that card is $145 and he said his budget was $100.
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January 14, 2011 3:06:44 PM

Doh! :o  My Bad, It clearly states that.
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