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March 18, 2011 2:23:52 AM

Hello, I am looking to make my new computer to last me 2 to 3 years. My budget is $3000-4000 and I want to make a beast. Is it worth buying a sandy bridge cpu now or is it better to wait? What kind of
motherboard should I be looking at? I prefer intel over AMD.

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March 18, 2011 2:35:38 AM

tcbabcock said:
Hello, I am looking to make my new computer to last me 2 to 3 years. My budget is $3000-4000 and I want to make a beast. Is it worth buying a sandy bridge cpu now or is it better to wait? What kind of
motherboard should I be looking at? I prefer intel over AMD.


That's a huge budget. I'm sure we could do some damage with that.
What is your current system that you're running?
Maybe we can spend your graphics/case/power supply budget now and then spend your CPU/Motherboard later budget when we see the next round of the arms race (Bulldozer vs LGA2011).

Also, hit the 'How to ask for build advice' link in my signature... and reply back on this thread w/ some of those details so we can give the most accurate advice first time around.
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March 18, 2011 3:08:56 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within a month preferably but may wait to see what will be available.

Budget Range: $3000-4000. Willing to spend less if it is not necessary.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: I am a gamer, nothing more, nothing less. I want premium graphics and fast loading programs. This will be my second build so installation should not be a problem. I have no experience with water cooling although I am interested.

Parts Not Required: Monitor, possibly mouse. I need a new keyboard (probably logitech, one of the G series)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I've mostly bought from newegg but obviously will buy wherever is cheapest.

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: I've only used intel and would like to use their line of parts but I'm willing to try AMD if the build is better.

Overclocking: Yes, with some trial and error I would like to overclock to the max.

SLI or Crossfire: Yes, up to 4x.

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080. I use my Samsung 46 inch HDTV as my monitor. It's served me well.

Additional Comments: I am giving my current computer to my mother and wish to make a beast of a computer that will last a good three years. I probably don't need a sound card as the one I use now crackles and pops (Sound blaster x-fi titanium) and was somewhat of a waste of money. I do want a SSD or two for quick load speeds. The case has to fit the monstrosity of innards and I'd prefer to have a place to hide wires.

I would like to use water cooling with this build although I am not experienced with doing so.

My current system is a GTX 260 card, 2.7 ghz. The slow cpu is definitely holding me back. I cant recall what MOBO I'm using although it's EVGA. I am using 4 gigs of ram.

I am interested in the Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz but I dont know which MOBO to get. Also 4x GTX 580s may be overkill..

I am just starting to get ideas for this build and would appreciate and advice. Thank you in advance.
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March 18, 2011 4:39:41 AM

CPU If you don't want wait for Bulldozer (from AMD) or the LGA2011 stuff (from Intel)

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
$220 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
$328
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(Games aren't able to take advantage of the extra threads presented by the 2600k, so IMO there are better spots to spend that $108 difference)

Mobo
ASUS P8P67 WS REVOLUTION LGA 1155 Intel P67 / NVIDIA NF200 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$260 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM
$100 (w/ promo code EMCKGJE72) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video Card
(Here I would advise you to wait because the dual GPU 6990's just released, but they have to be loud as hell. So I would wait for a water cooled option to become available in either 6990 or the upcoming GTX 590)
This card provided as reference point / placeholder.

GIGABYTE GV-R699D5-4GD-B Radeon HD 6990 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card with Eyefinity
$740 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Drive 1
Intel 510 Series (Elm Crest) SSDSC2MH120A2K5 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
$290 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(Here again I would advise you to wait. The OCZ Vertex 3 should be hitting retail soon w/ better performance in real world conditions, but the price will be about the same so this is a good budget placeholder)

Drive 2
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$65 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case This would really depend on your decision on whether or not to water cool this system.

Power Supply
SeaSonic X Series X-850 (SS-850KM Active PFC F3) 850W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
$195 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(yes, as hard as it is to believe that 850w PSU is on AMD's list as certified for two 6990's in crossfire)

Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
$100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive 1
~$20

That's just under 2K, but I've left out case and water cooling... which if you were to do it would be a large expense.
But at least this is enough to get the discussion started. I'm sure others will weigh in.



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March 18, 2011 12:26:53 PM

Here ya go. And don't even think of running more than dual vid cards...the gain is little for the pain it creates. That mobo down below runs dual cards @ 16x & 16x not to mention it's the king of the hill for these P67 mobo's in regards to o/c. That Zalman h/s down below is on Frosty Techs top ten list, the RAM is fast and low voltage, etc.... With this build you will have the biggest e-pen0r in your neighborhood.

btw that mobo down below along with the rest of the 1155 mobo's should be @ newegg within the next week or two.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $179.99 FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $21.99
COOLER MASTER Megaflow 200 R4-LUS-07AR-GP 200mm Red LED Case Fan

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $11.99
COOLER MASTER R4-S4S-10AK-GP 140mm Case Fan

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $9.99
COOLER MASTER SAF-S12-E1 120mm Case Fan

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $8.99
COOLER MASTER R4-SPS-20AK-GP 80mm Case Fan

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $239.99
ENERMAX REVOLUTION85+ ERV1020EWT 1020W (Peak 1120W) ATX12V / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-P67UD7&titl... $311.99
GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD7 Socket 1155/ Intel P67/ DDR3/ 3-Way CrossFireX & SLI/ SATA3&USB3.0/ A&2GbE/ ATX Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $328.99 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $79.99 - $69.99 after mail-in rebate FREE SHIPPING
ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-R 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Red LED

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $129.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $17.99 Free shipping w/ promo code EMCKGJE65, ends 3/21
ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99 FREE SHIPPING
GIGABYTE GV-N580UD-15I GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99 FREE SHIPPING
GIGABYTE GV-N580UD-15I GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $544.99 FREE SHIPPING
OCZ RevoDrive X2 OCZSSDPX-1RVDX0240 PCI-E 240GB PCI-Express x4 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Discount: -$5.00 Combo Price: $184.98
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

Total: $3,071.84 *not including keyboard, mouse, shipping, rebates, promo codes, etc..


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $64.99 FREE SHIPPING
Logitech G110 Black USB Wired LED Backlighting Gaming Keyboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $51.99 FREE SHIPPING
Logitech G500 10 Buttons Dual-mode Scroll Wheel USB Wired Laser 5700 dpi Gaming Mouse

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $104.99
Logitech G35 USB 2.0 Connector Surround Sound Headset

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?category_id... <---- Cooler Master HAF X
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March 18, 2011 2:05:30 PM

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Is it worth buying a sandy bridge cpu now or is it better to wait?


Since peeps been waiting this long for the top end i suggest for healthier/fatter budgets to
1. Await Z68 chipsets, Zambezi AM3+ on platform front
2. Await HD 6990/GTX 590 on the GPU front and price revisions trickle down lower down the foodchain
3. Await the Sandforce SATA 6GB/s SSDs to hit retailers :p 

Leaked: FAH score of a 4 way Interlagos Bulldozer <--Pay attention to floating point numbers/chip architecture
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2148217

Intel Z68 Express Chipset Preview
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z68-express-lucidlo...


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Also 4x GTX 580s may be overkill..


Actually unless you 100% need CUDA red camp is where it's at currently for multi GPU/scaling

Triple-GPU Scaling: AMD CrossFire Vs. Nvidia SLI
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crossfire-sli-3-way...
Quote:
CrossFire came out with a huge overall scaling lead over SLI, and removing the one title that didn’t reflect that average would have made the lead even bigger. Superior scaling allowed two mid-priced Radeon HD 6950s to approximate the performance of two higher-cost GeForce GTX 570s, while three HD 6950s took the performance win over three GTX 570s.
If CrossFire’s value-oriented victory in two-way and performance win in three-way configurations weren’t enough to convince us, the Radeon HD 6950's lower power certainly did. AMD started out with the highest efficiency at one card, and superb multi-GPU scaling allowed its efficiency to increase with every card we added. When’s the last time adding parts made your machine more efficient?

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March 25, 2011 12:25:27 PM

Thank you very much for your help. I am going with a lot of Why_Me's suggestions. I think I may go with 2x EVGA GTX 590 Classified Hydro Copper cards and water cool the pc. This will probably put me near the $4000 mark if not go over. Would 2x GTX 590s be better than 2x AMD 6990s?
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March 25, 2011 1:06:05 PM

Best answer selected by tcbabcock.
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March 25, 2011 1:09:49 PM

wait till 3rd quarter of this year and get your self a 2011 socket ? otherwise get a x58 chipset
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March 25, 2011 1:20:49 PM

tcbabcock said:
Thank you very much for your help. I am going with a lot of Why_Me's suggestions. I think I may go with 2x EVGA GTX 590 Classified Hydro Copper cards and water cool the pc. This will probably put me near the $4000 mark if not go over. Would 2x GTX 590s be better than 2x AMD 6990s?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4239/nvidias-geforce-gtx-... <------ gtx 590 vs 6990

No need to water cool your cpu....not if your going with a Sandy Bridge build. If you you plan on running dual 590's then your going to need to size up on the psu.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $299.99
ENERMAX SGALAXY EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Compatible w/Core i7 Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $289.99
SILVERSTONE Strider Gold ST1200-G 1200W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified 100% Modular, Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $279.99
CORSAIR Professional Series AX1200 1200W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Certified 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $299.99
Antec High Current Pro HCP-1200 1200W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $219.99
Antec TPQ-1200 1200W Continuous Power with PowerCache Technology SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
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March 25, 2011 1:20:51 PM

tcbabcock said:
Approximate Purchase Date: Within a month preferably but may wait to see what will be available.

Budget Range: $3000-4000. Willing to spend less if it is not necessary.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: I am a gamer, nothing more, nothing less. I want premium graphics and fast loading programs. This will be my second build so installation should not be a problem. I have no experience with water cooling although I am interested.

Parts Not Required: Monitor, possibly mouse. I need a new keyboard (probably logitech, one of the G series)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I've mostly bought from newegg but obviously will buy wherever is cheapest.

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: I've only used intel and would like to use their line of parts but I'm willing to try AMD if the build is better.

Overclocking: Yes, with some trial and error I would like to overclock to the max.

SLI or Crossfire: Yes, up to 4x.

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080. I use my Samsung 46 inch HDTV as my monitor. It's served me well.

Additional Comments: I am giving my current computer to my mother and wish to make a beast of a computer that will last a good three years. I probably don't need a sound card as the one I use now crackles and pops (Sound blaster x-fi titanium) and was somewhat of a waste of money. I do want a SSD or two for quick load speeds. The case has to fit the monstrosity of innards and I'd prefer to have a place to hide wires.

I would like to use water cooling with this build although I am not experienced with doing so.

My current system is a GTX 260 card, 2.7 ghz. The slow cpu is definitely holding me back. I cant recall what MOBO I'm using although it's EVGA. I am using 4 gigs of ram.

I am interested in the Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz but I dont know which MOBO to get. Also 4x GTX 580s may be overkill..

I am just starting to get ideas for this build and would appreciate and advice. Thank you in advance.




Hey with the 1155 socket you cant quad sli If you want a pc now get a GIGABYTE G1.Sniper which come with a ON board sound card and gaming onboard network card ITS a GAMING MOBO THEN GET A i7 INTEL 990x then get your self either 1 or 2 GTX 590 :)  you only need one for now 12 gigs ram 1200watt PSU 1 SSD drive and a 2TB BLACK HDD and u set choose tower you like
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March 26, 2011 12:27:16 AM

topsoil said:
Hey with the 1155 socket you cant quad sli If you want a pc now get a GIGABYTE G1.Sniper which come with a ON board sound card and gaming onboard network card ITS a GAMING MOBO THEN GET A i7 INTEL 990x then get your self either 1 or 2 GTX 590 :)  you only need one for now 12 gigs ram 1200watt PSU 1 SSD drive and a 2TB BLACK HDD and u set choose tower you like

So your recommending a $1,000 cpu and a $450 mobo.

First off that Gigabyte 1155 P67 UD7 runs dual cards @ 16x, and 16x. It runs tri SLI @ 8x.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-990x-extrem... <----- $1,000 990x vs $225 Sandy Bridge 2500K

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/01/20/gigabyte_p67a... < ----- Gigabyte UD7 P67 review

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1982&pageID=10041 <----- another review of that same mobo
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March 26, 2011 12:09:37 PM

No 1 the intel 990x is the fastest CPU in the world and
No 2 he has a 4k budget just for gaming that MOBO is just for gaming which means he does not need a sound card or network card and
No 3 you cant compare the 990x vs the 2500k its 6 cores vs 4 with not hypertheading
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March 27, 2011 5:10:31 AM

So far I have pretty much decided on the following components:

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

SSD: OCZ RevoDrive X2 OCZSSDPX-1RVDX0240 PCI-E 240GB PCI-Express x4 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

CPU Cooler: ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-R 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Red LED

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K

PSU: Antec High Current Pro HCP-1200 1200W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Graphics: 1 or 2 EVGA GTX590. These cards are rather expensive so should I just get one and update later?

Motherboard: I'm still unsure about this. I may go with the GIGABYTE G1.Sniper LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard but still open to suggestions.

My current computer has a creative sound blaster card. Unfortunately it sometimes will crackle and pop. I don't know if this is a problem with my current MB but I may use it on my new MB if able. I don't need it if I buy the MB I listed but it is an option. I'm going to buy this computer very soon so more suggestions are always appreciated!
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March 27, 2011 5:44:22 AM

I'm in the same boat, and I would HIGHLY recommend waiting till socket 2011 comes out as the replacement for 1336. Should be out this summer if not sooner. I am awaiting it's release myself.
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March 27, 2011 6:12:05 AM

tcbabcock said:
So far I have pretty much decided on the following components:

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

SSD: OCZ RevoDrive X2 OCZSSDPX-1RVDX0240 PCI-E 240GB PCI-Express x4 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

CPU Cooler: ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-R 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Red LED

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K

PSU: Antec High Current Pro HCP-1200 1200W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Graphics: 1 or 2 EVGA GTX590. These cards are rather expensive so should I just get one and update later?

Motherboard: I'm still unsure about this. I may go with the GIGABYTE G1.Sniper LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard but still open to suggestions.

My current computer has a creative sound blaster card. Unfortunately it sometimes will crackle and pop. I don't know if this is a problem with my current MB but I may use it on my new MB if able. I don't need it if I buy the MB I listed but it is an option. I'm going to buy this computer very soon so more suggestions are always appreciated!

1155 socket not 1336 . mobo + cpu
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June 26, 2011 2:51:08 PM

Hey all. It's been a few months but I finally have my build coming. I wanted to thank you all again for your help! Here's what I got:

EVGA GeForce GTX 590 Classified Quad SLI (2 Pack)

NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK Black Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) Quad-Core Desktop Processor

ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED

GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD7-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive

+Loads of fans

:) 
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June 27, 2011 9:09:50 AM

Any thoughts?
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