Advice regarding memory upgrade
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Hello,
On my motherboard (Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3 P55 Chipset) I currently have 2 memory sticks (Transcend 4GB Kit (2GBx2) DDR3 1333Mhz Core I3 I5 I7). I'm thinking about upgrading my memory for gaming purposes, but not sure what is supported by my MB and whether I should go with an one extra bigger stick, add 2 smaller sticks (dual channel) or just replace the old ones with new better ones.
I'm looking to spend around 50$ ( depending on the cost-efficiency).
Any advice or comment will be welcomed.
Thank you.
On my motherboard (Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3 P55 Chipset) I currently have 2 memory sticks (Transcend 4GB Kit (2GBx2) DDR3 1333Mhz Core I3 I5 I7). I'm thinking about upgrading my memory for gaming purposes, but not sure what is supported by my MB and whether I should go with an one extra bigger stick, add 2 smaller sticks (dual channel) or just replace the old ones with new better ones.
I'm looking to spend around 50$ ( depending on the cost-efficiency).
Any advice or comment will be welcomed.
Thank you.
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These will work fine. Just add them into the two unused ram slots:
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 996770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 996770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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abekl said:
These will work fine. Just add them into the two unused ram slots:Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 996770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Thanks.
Like I said, I need the upgrade for gaming. Does it affect my selection of brand or speed? Is there an advantage for 1600 vs 1333 for example?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
those are 1600 speeds.
Someone correct me if im wrong but these would clock default at 1333 but if he goes into his bios he could speed them to the correct speed of 1600. If his board really can only have 1333 then maybe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
those are 1600 speeds.
Someone correct me if im wrong but these would clock default at 1333 but if he goes into his bios he could speed them to the correct speed of 1600. If his board really can only have 1333 then maybe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
kcsmacker said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
those are 1600 speeds.
Someone correct me if im wrong but these would clock default at 1333 but if he goes into his bios he could speed them to the correct speed of 1600. If his board really can only have 1333 then maybe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
BTW, is this true? Can I change it from the BIOS or is it not recommended for any reason?
ekmo said:
BTW, is this true? Can I change it from the BIOS or is it not recommended for any reason?I have a similar Gigabyte H55 LGA1156 Mobo. You shouldn't have to change anything in your BIOS for them to work at 1600MHz. Check your BIOS version at the Gigabyte site and download any newer version available (using @BIOS). If you do have the latest version installed they should work at their deticated speed.
When the P55 and H55 Mobos came out Gigabyte specs were 1066/1333/O.C.1600MHz after a few BIOS upgrades they now support up to 2000MHz RAM.
As the others are pointing out a 2x4GB dual channel kit will be super for about $50.
ekmo said:
Thanks, that's a lot of good info.Always was afraid of messing with the BIOS, but if it's a simple as you say it is... Why the hell not? Should I worry about it affecting anything? Or is it completely idiot proof?
The only thing you should worry about is a power failure during the BIOS upgrade otherwise you're good!
Here's the link to the download (for Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3 all OS):
http://www.gigabyte.com/MicroSite/121/tech_a_bios.htm
No, because your cpu doesn't "hold" anything! If you check your Mobo support page you will see that it supports RAM with greater speeds.
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=...
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=...
What do you see in the BIOS?
When adding ram to an existing set, you should ALWAYS get an identical pair! If thats not possible, at least get the closest set available (same brand). If it is possible, try to returning for another pair of Transcend.
Have you installed one pair on DDR3_1 and DDR3_3 and the other on DDR3_2 and DDR3_4? If not do that and see how it goes!
Out of curiosity. why didn't you get faster RAM like 1600MHz?
When adding ram to an existing set, you should ALWAYS get an identical pair! If thats not possible, at least get the closest set available (same brand). If it is possible, try to returning for another pair of Transcend.
Have you installed one pair on DDR3_1 and DDR3_3 and the other on DDR3_2 and DDR3_4? If not do that and see how it goes!
Out of curiosity. why didn't you get faster RAM like 1600MHz?
Not possible for me to get the same set. I don't see why they shouldn't work together.
What do you mean by DDR3_1 and DDR3_3?
I got the 1333 and not the 1600 simply because that's whatI could find in a reasonable price plus I already had a set of 2x2GB 1333MHz and didn't want them to slow down the new set plus the difference between 1333 and 1600 is apparently not critical for me.
What do you mean by DDR3_1 and DDR3_3?
I got the 1333 and not the 1600 simply because that's whatI could find in a reasonable price plus I already had a set of 2x2GB 1333MHz and didn't want them to slow down the new set plus the difference between 1333 and 1600 is apparently not critical for me.
Your mobo has 4 RAM slots correct? They should be 2 different colors correct?
As I see your mobo has a blue pair and a white pair.
One pair (Transcend) should be in the blue slots and A-Data in the white slots or vice versa.
If you haven't installed your ram like that, please do.
If you still have the same issue, then loose the 2x2GB pair and keep the 2x4GB pair. I know you can never have too much ram but I'm sure 8 is plenty!
As I see your mobo has a blue pair and a white pair.
One pair (Transcend) should be in the blue slots and A-Data in the white slots or vice versa.
If you haven't installed your ram like that, please do.
If you still have the same issue, then loose the 2x2GB pair and keep the 2x4GB pair. I know you can never have too much ram but I'm sure 8 is plenty!
ngrego said:
Your mobo has 4 RAM slots correct? They should be 2 different colors correct?As I see your mobo has a blue pair and a white pair.
One pair (Transcend) should be in the blue slots and A-Data in the white slots or vice versa.
If you haven't installed your ram like that, please do.
If you still have the same issue, then loose the 2x2GB pair and keep the 2x4GB pair. I know you can never have too much ram but I'm sure 8 is plenty!
They are in dual channel arrangement, i.e. both 4GB in blue slots and 2GB in white slots.
I don't want to lose the 2X2GB so fast, I'm sure it's something that can be fixed.
h3sham said:
try installing them in this order 2 2 4 4 , see if that helps...worked for meYou mean both 2x4GB in blue+white and 2x2GB in blue+white? If not, then I see my reply to ngrego.
And according to what you said I should have no problem having 4 sticks worth of 12GB in 1333MHz, so it should work properly without OC...
If the motherboard has two pairs of differently colored DIMM sockets (the colors indicate which bank they belong to, bank 0 or bank 1), then one can place a matched pair of memory modules in bank 0, but a different-capacity pair of modules in bank 1, as long as they are of the same speed. Using this scheme, a pair of 1 GB memory modules in bank 0 and a pair of matched 512 MB modules in bank 1 would be acceptable for dual-channel operation.
Dual-channel technology was created to address the issue of bottlenecks. Increased processor speed and performance requires other, less prominent components to keep pace. In the case of dual-channel design, the intended target is the memory controller, which regulates data flow between the CPU and system memory (RAM). The memory controller determines the types and speeds of RAM as well as the maximum size of each individual memory module and the overall memory capacity of the system. However, when the memory is unable to keep up with the processor, a bottleneck occurs, leaving the CPU with nothing to process. Under the single-channel architecture, any CPU with a bus speed greater than the memory speed would be susceptible to this bottleneck effect.
The dual-channel configuration alleviates the problem by doubling the amount of available memory bandwidth. Instead of a single memory channel, a second parallel channel is added. With two channels working simultaneously, the bottleneck is reduced. Rather than wait for memory technology to improve, dual-channel architecture simply takes the existing RAM technology and improves the method in which it is handled. While the actual implementation differs between Intel and AMD motherboards, the basic theory stands.
also dual channel gave at best a 5% speed increase in memory-intensive tasks more than single-channel in synthetic and gaming benchmarks
Dual-channel technology was created to address the issue of bottlenecks. Increased processor speed and performance requires other, less prominent components to keep pace. In the case of dual-channel design, the intended target is the memory controller, which regulates data flow between the CPU and system memory (RAM). The memory controller determines the types and speeds of RAM as well as the maximum size of each individual memory module and the overall memory capacity of the system. However, when the memory is unable to keep up with the processor, a bottleneck occurs, leaving the CPU with nothing to process. Under the single-channel architecture, any CPU with a bus speed greater than the memory speed would be susceptible to this bottleneck effect.
The dual-channel configuration alleviates the problem by doubling the amount of available memory bandwidth. Instead of a single memory channel, a second parallel channel is added. With two channels working simultaneously, the bottleneck is reduced. Rather than wait for memory technology to improve, dual-channel architecture simply takes the existing RAM technology and improves the method in which it is handled. While the actual implementation differs between Intel and AMD motherboards, the basic theory stands.
also dual channel gave at best a 5% speed increase in memory-intensive tasks more than single-channel in synthetic and gaming benchmarks
You left out the following:
"The difference can be far more significant in applications that manipulate large amounts of data in memory. A comparison by TechConnect Magazine demonstrated considerable gains for dual-channel in tasks using block sizes greater than 4 MB, and during stream processing by the CPU".
Anyway, I'll try rearranging the sticks once I get home and report back if it did the trick.
Thanks.
"The difference can be far more significant in applications that manipulate large amounts of data in memory. A comparison by TechConnect Magazine demonstrated considerable gains for dual-channel in tasks using block sizes greater than 4 MB, and during stream processing by the CPU".
Anyway, I'll try rearranging the sticks once I get home and report back if it did the trick.
Thanks.
So after one blue screen, multiple cases of non-responding computer, some minor heart attacks and one tantrum I was able to get my full 12GB.
The solution was to stick the 2 new 2x4GB in bank 0 and the old 2x2GB in bank 1. They work in dual channel as well. Any other setup gave either 2GB in single channel, 4 GB in dual channel or a computer that just won't turn on.
Hopefully I didn't do any damage with all the turning off and on, plugging and unplugging the memory sticks.
So far it looks like all is well in my computerized kingdom. Big thanks to ngrego, h3sham and all the other guys who helped me out.
Have a good day people.
The solution was to stick the 2 new 2x4GB in bank 0 and the old 2x2GB in bank 1. They work in dual channel as well. Any other setup gave either 2GB in single channel, 4 GB in dual channel or a computer that just won't turn on.
Hopefully I didn't do any damage with all the turning off and on, plugging and unplugging the memory sticks.
So far it looks like all is well in my computerized kingdom. Big thanks to ngrego, h3sham and all the other guys who helped me out.
Have a good day people.
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, hopefully rearranging them will do the trick