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First Time Build - Gaming - $1100 - Need Advice

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Approximate Purchase Date: April 5, 2011


Budget Range: $1000 - $1100 After Rebates


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Programming, Surfing, Movies


Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Speakers, OS


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon, TigerDirect


Country of Origin: US


Parts Preferences: Intel CPU ONLY


Overclocking: NO


SLI or Crossfire: NO


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080(already have)


Additional Comments: Looks/Sound not important

Reply to nisargtheiceman
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Shortlisted the following, please advise"

CPU:
Core i5-2500K $230.00
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] 11295574-2

Mobo:
Asus P8P67 Pro $160.00
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=6978

GPU:
Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 $250.00
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] 44500507-2

RAM:
Kingston HyperX 12GB Kit $150.00
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Mod [...] =pd_cp_e_2

HDD:
WD 750 GB Caviar Black $70.00
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digi [...] 788&sr=8-1

PSU:
Cooler Master Silent Pro M700 $109.00
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=2533

Case:
Antec Three Hundred $55.00
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GQMHB [...] B000GQMHBI

Optical Drive:
LITE-ON 4x Blu-ray $55.00
http://www.amazon.com/LITE--Blu-ra [...] 075&sr=1-1

SSD: ????


Current Total : $1079

Reply to nisargtheiceman

Thanks, I'll check it out and revert with questions

Reply to nisargtheiceman

you do not need the k version of the i5 if u are not overclocking, and just go for 8 gb of ram games cannot take advantage of 12gb. here are some othe parts that will be better for you:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spin [...] 802&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B [...] ynadata-20 -this might be out of stock but it is better than that cooler master psu

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CMPS [...] 992&sr=1-1 -this is also a better psu at the same price

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-250 [...] 125&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-Ripj [...] 161&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/PNY-PCI-Expr [...] 216&sr=1-1 -with the money u saved you can get this gtx 570 which is better


-and really want that blueray drive?

Reply to mjmjpfaff

I won't overclock now, but in the future am undecided. Sorry for the mistake in the first post.

I wan't blu-ray to be able to watch blu-ray movies.

Thanks for the advice on the PSU, GPU and the rest.

As for the RAM, won't Triple-channel give me an advantage (mixed info. on this)

Reply to nisargtheiceman

Any recommendations on the Mobo and case?

Reply to nisargtheiceman

the motherboard and case are good. overclocking is easy now with the new bios on the asus and triple channeling wont give you a preformance boost in gaming ive tried it and there is no difference and since u are overclocking in the future get the hyper 212 plus cpu cooler at amazon and since you are getting those things we have to tune down the gpu. here are some other recommendations:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=7005 - 1gb is perfect at that resolution

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=3585 -560 ti is a good option too, this one is easy to oc

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=3585 -another good 560 ti

Reply to mjmjpfaff

Also, can someone suggest a good, cheap, small SSD without jacking up the price too much?

Reply to nisargtheiceman

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Three- [...] 609&sr=1-1 $54.95 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Antec Three Hundred Gaming Case External 3 X 5.25; Internal 6 X 3.5 2*Usb2.0

http://www.amazon.com/SilverStone- [...] 67&sr=1-12 $90.00 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SilverStone Element ST60EF 600W ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=6975 $99.99
ASUS P8H67-M LE B3 Intel H67 Motherboard - Micro ATX, Socket H2 (LGA 1155), Intel H67 Express, 1333MHz DDR3, HDMI, Gigabit LAN, 8-Channel Audio, SATA 6.0 Gb/s, SuperSpeed USB 3.0

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=6988 $209.99
Intel Core i5-2500 BX80623I52500 Processor - Quad Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 3.30 GHz, Socket H2 (LGA1155), Retail

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=4534 $69.99*
Patriot PGV38G1333ELK Gaming i5 8GB PC10666 RAM - DDR3, 1333MHz, 2x4096MB, 9-9-9-24

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spin [...] 325&sr=1-1 $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.5 inch Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive HD103SJ

http://www.amazon.com/Lite--LightS [...] 507&sr=1-1 $24.49 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Lite-On LightScribe 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive IHAS424-98 - Retail (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ATI-Rad [...] 71&sr=1-19 379.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
ASUS ATI Radeon HD 6970 2 GB PCIe x16 Gen 2.1

Total: $989.39

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Reply to Why_Me

Is it advisable to get a CPU Cooler now, or in the future since I won't overclock for the first 6 months.

Also, I'm getting the HAF 912 for $60
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B [...] d_i=507846

Seems like a better deal.

Also, what's the performance diff. between 570 vs 560 vs 6950 for 1080p screen?

Reply to nisargtheiceman

@Why_me, are you sure the H67 is a better deal than the P67?

Reply to nisargtheiceman

nisargtheiceman wrote :

@Why_me, are you sure the H67 is a better deal than the P67?


If you plan on over clocking then the P67 is the way to go. I'm just going off of that original post you made on here.

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Reply to Why_Me

Sorry I meant I won't OC now.

Same with SLI, not now, maybe next year.

Nice list though. I'll do some more research.

Thanks a lot.

Reply to nisargtheiceman

It was suggested to me(in my post) that you go ahead and purchase(and install) the CPU cooler up front. From what I understand, you will actually have to take the motherboard out of the case, possibly removing cables, etc to install the cooler. It just sounds like a pain to defer a $30 purchase, but it can be done.

Reply to Shaft_32

Well that IS inconvenient but another chance to get my hands dirty!
Actually I'm trying to save ~$100 to try and get an SSD for my everyday tasks, so cutting a few dollars here and there might help.

Reply to nisargtheiceman

if you are going to sli get the msi p67 gd 65 more expensive but i think you should wait until the vertex 3's to come out and get that ssd. since you are overclocking get the 560 ti it gives you better scaling overclocking than the 6950 1gb and in the end it is a better card especially at 1080p

Reply to mjmjpfaff

@mjmjpfaff, can you tell me the advantages of the MSI P67A-GD65 over the Asus P8P67 since the former is closer to the ~$200 mark?

Reply to nisargtheiceman

Updated list from the efforts of all the ppl in this thread:

Core i5-2500K
Asus P8P67 Pro
ASUS ENGTX560TIDCII/2DI/1
G.Skill Ripjaws - 8 GB
Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint
Corsair CMPSU-650TX
HAF 912
LITE-ON 4x Blu-ray

Total $1016

Question 1: Will the 650W PSU be enough for the 560Ti or the 6950?

Question 2: If I go in for SLI with, is it better to get the Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750W or is that also inadequate?

Question 3: Can someone nudge the price down a little so that I can end up with a 64GB SSD with a total of $1100? Which one?

Reply to nisargtheiceman

you will be ok running the 650w with sli but the psu will be almost maxed out it is better to get the 750w. and again you should wait for the vertex 3 maybe you will have more money saved up to get that, it is much faster than anything you can buy today. both motherboards are great choices choose whichever one appeals to you spec-wise

Reply to mjmjpfaff

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B [...] PDKIKX0DER $89.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Antec Truepower 23754 TP-750 BLUE LED 750-Watt PSU NVIDIA SLI Certified 80 Plus Bronze Advanced Hybrid Cable Management Power Supply

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Reply to Why_Me

my build is almost exactly the same as that just waiting on the motherboard (p8p67 pro) to come on tuesday, i also have the gtx 560 ti but mine is a evga (to be honest urs is better). don't forget to get the cooler master hyper 212 plus cpu cooler. and if u really want to save a little bit of money get 4gb of ram itll save you 50 but ull still be 50$ short. i reccomend starting with 4gb and upgrading to 8 gb quad channeled when it is slowing down

Reply to mjmjpfaff

here is a ram suggestion:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=4527


and with the money you saved doing that get the corsair tx750 (last generations)- better investment overall because a second graphics card will give you way better preformance than a ssd in gaming

or the new one which is the same price as the old one at tiger direct- http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=2533

Reply to mjmjpfaff

Hey guys, thank you all so much for all the suggestions.

@mjmjpfaff, I will go in for the 750W PSU, to be a little more future-proof.

I'll also take your advice on the SSD, as I read up on the new one, and it sure sounds interesting.

Didn't know about quad-channel RAM though.... hmmm....

@Why_Me, thanks, love that PSU, just waiting for it to get in stock....
and I'll consider the RAM suggestion as well....

Update you once I place orders, or have another question. Thanks!

Reply to nisargtheiceman

Finally started ordering with the NewEgg Shell Shocker:

Patriot Viper Xtreme Series, Division 2 Edition 8GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820220561

Also got a good tax refund, so planning to upgrade the GPU.
Should I go in for the ASUS GeForce 570 or save and buy the new Sapphire Radeon 6950($100 less and almost same performance)

Also CAN'T FIND THE ASUS P8P67 PRO Mobo anywhere! Please help!
Also how will the Sandy Bridge Chipset recall affect this mobo? Is a new version coming out?

Reply to nisargtheiceman

570 is better it really isnt about the same especially in war games. and the p8p67 pro mobo is in stock at any walk in store i am pretty sure. i finally got mine and it is faulty. they are telling me to go and buy a case speaker and new thermal pate it is kind of ridiculous. go with the msi gd65

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