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March 22, 2011 6:48:26 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: within this week/next week

Budget Range: ~2000USD Max

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, 2d/3d work (zbrush, 3dsmax, photoshop)

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: www.price.com.hk

Country of Origin: Hong Kong (China)

Parts Preferences: by brand or type : Intel cpu, Nvidia graphic card - but I'm totally open to any brand for any parts

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 2x 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I need a stable and quiet pc. I'd also like to switch to win7 64bit

More about : gaming build 2000usd

a b 4 Gaming
March 22, 2011 6:57:36 AM

I realize HK prices are different so this may not work out. But, here is the SBM for this month.
2000$ build guide, should work out since 2x 6950 2gb are really powerful.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-sandy-bridge-...

If you plan on gaming at that resolution (1920x2160) or however your going to organize the monitors. Your going to need to CF/SLI immediately since your single GPU is going to get strained I will tell you know. I'm not trying to be rude. Just blunt about it. And I'm not forcing you to say "YOU HAVE TO CF/SLI" Just as a suggestion for the best FPS possible.

As for 1500$, check out my siggy below. If you get the 2500 (which I recommend over the 2600 since your not in any real need for 8 threads). You'll be able to SLI 560 Ti's with the 1500$ budget. So it should workout.

Oh by the way, how is Big Boys Club now-a-days? Jin is pretty legit down there.

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March 22, 2011 5:57:27 PM

3d work is better rendered with Nvidia GPUs. Change the two 6950's to a single GTX 580. It will save you money. Invest that money in a modular PSU. If you really wanna build a system based off the SBM $2000, change the Crucial SSDs to ADATA 6.0 for improved speed at the same cost. I'm not sure why the author won't embrace SATA III.
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March 23, 2011 12:54:53 AM

Thx for your reply guys !

@AznShinobi
Thx for the links man ! I'll probably not be gaming on the dual mon. 1920x2160, single mon is just better ^__^ but I'll definitely work at that resolution (3DSMax, Zbrush, Photoshop)

@joshyboy82
What do you recommend as a "modular PSU" ?

I'm checking prices and availabilty for the following builds :

Build#1 based on Shinobi $1500 build

Motherboard Asrock Extreme4 P67
Processor i7 2600K
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1333 8gb (2x4gb)
Graphics nvidia GTX 570
System Drive OCZ Vertex 2 64gb
Storage Drive Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
Optical ?
Case Cooler Master HAF X
Power XFX 850w Black Edition 80+ Silver
CPU Cooler ?

Build#2 based on the SBM $2000 with adjustments from joshyboy82

Motherboard ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution: LGA 1155, Intel P67 Express
Processor Intel Core i7-2600K: 3.4 GHz-3.8 GHz, 8 MB Cache
Memory G.Skill F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM: DDR3-1600 C8, 2 x 4 GB (8 GB)
Graphics Nvidia GTX 580
System Drive ADATA 6.0 SSD
Storage Drive Samsung F3 HD103SJ 1 TB, 7200 RPM HDD
Optical Lite-On iHBS212 BD-RE: 12x BD-R, 16x DVD±R, 48x CD-R
Case Antec Three Hundred Illusion
Power Seasonic SS-850HT: 850W, ATX12V v2.31, 80-Plus Silver
CPU Cooler Scythe Mugen 2 Rev. B (SCMG-2100)
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March 23, 2011 1:47:41 AM

Modular is exactly what the XFX 850 PSU is. The cables are detachable, not all but most are. There is the exception of the main cables such as the 24 pin (in most cases) and the 8-pin cpu power. This isn't always the case.

Well the SSD suggestion is a great suggestion in my siggy guide. However, with this new series of SF-2200 controller SSDs coming in. It's better to wait, almost all (it should be all) of the SF-2xxx controller SSDs boast 550 reads and 500 writes. See here.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/vertex-3-sandforce-...

Also, if you plan to play at 1920x1080 the 570 would be fine. Even the 560 Ti would be plenty. Personally I recommend the 560 Ti because it runs ALOT cooler and ALOT quieter. I guarantee it.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-review...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-review...

For the optical, the cheapest is good enough.

For the CPU cooler the Hyper 212+ is great for 30$.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
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March 23, 2011 4:13:25 AM

That computer you created based off of my recommendation is sick. I'm not just saying that, because honestly, I'm not that nice of a guy. I spent almost that much on my computer and I wish that I pulled that one. I personally prefer the HAF X case though.
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March 23, 2011 4:34:51 AM

Gigabyte P67-UD3 Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel i7-2600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.Skill Ripjaw X (2x4Gb)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gigabyte GTX 580 overclocked
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Plextor SSD 128Gb SATA III
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital 1Tb SATAIII
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LG Blu-Ray Reader 10x
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HAF X full tower case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair 850TX PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Coolmaster V8 Heatsink
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Newegg Basket Total: $1868 w/o shipping. Doesn't include WIN7. Total also has an additional $60 in rebates, bringing it to $1808. Also, that Plextor SSD has the best write speeds and barely shy of the best read speeds.
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March 23, 2011 5:31:03 AM

^ Not a big fan of the UD3s. Not a big fan of WD either. I say Samsung F3 1TB. And the Asrock Extrme4 P67 when the B3 revision ver. come out.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1098/pg2/asrock-e...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4080/welcome-to-sandy-bri...

Also the V8 is good but the Hyper 212+ is a better value.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

Free shipping and the chance for an extra fan free vs Newegg:
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10...

I prefer SF-xxxx SSDs. I say this one and save the 60$ on something else.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also I disagree with the PSU as well. This is a better, modular, more efficient choice.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Same price after MIR plus XFX is real good with those and warranty too.
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March 27, 2011 7:39:55 AM

I got a quote from a local shop, they can get me the comp below for 14500HKD, the only parts they have changed are the power supply and the CPU cooler, they proposed me the below comp, what do you guys think ?

Motherboard ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution: LGA 1155, Intel P67 Express
Processor Intel Core i7-2600K: 3.4 GHz-3.8 GHz, 8 MB Cache
Memory G.Skill F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM: DDR3-1600 C8, 2 x 4 GB (8 GB)
Graphics Nvidia GTX 580
System Drive ADATA 6.0 SSD
Storage Drive Samsung F3 HD103SJ 1 TB, 7200 RPM HDD
Optical Lite-On iHBS212 BD-RE: 12x BD-R, 16x DVD±R, 48x CD-R
Case Antec Three Hundred Illusion
Power Cooler Master silent pro M850
CPU Cooler Cooler Master v8

They also told me that they can get anything listed on www.price.com.hk

I'll have a quick look and will decide before tonight ^__^
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March 27, 2011 8:09:37 AM

http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=113366
PSU^
The power cooler master silent pro m850 isn't a well renowned psu i wouldn't recommend it - Sticking with the known brands i.e. corsair/antec/xfx is a good choice. A quality 650W PSU > unknown 850W psu by miles.

The XFX/Corsair psu's are more expensive on that site than the antec truepower, and the truepower is better than the corsair TX series, and cheaper on that site, so its a must buy.

Get the 650W if you are buying the GTX 580 as it is well in advanced of your needs... (With overclocking even, well advanced...). Get the TX 850 if you want to have the option of SLI 580's... or an AX/HX/XFX 850W psu if those are cheaper.
Remember, having a bigger powersupply does nothing unless you really plan to upgrade your graphics card...
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March 27, 2011 10:16:04 AM

joshyboy82 said:
Gigabyte P67-UD3 Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel i7-2600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.Skill Ripjaw X (2x4Gb)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gigabyte GTX 580 overclocked
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Plextor SSD 128Gb SATA III
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital 1Tb SATAIII
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LG Blu-Ray Reader 10x
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HAF X full tower case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair 850TX PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Coolmaster V8 Heatsink
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Newegg Basket Total: $1868 w/o shipping. Doesn't include WIN7. Total also has an additional $60 in rebates, bringing it to $1808. Also, that Plextor SSD has the best write speeds and barely shy of the best read speeds.

That build is a total fail.

First off you have a single card board (16x & 4x) yet you have an 850w psu...no need for a CM HAF X for a single card build and no need for an 850w psu for a single 580. Also that CM V8 cpu h/s was nothing more than mediocre at best when it first hit the market a few years back, and it hasn't improved any. And the WD h/d...the Samsung is faster, quieter, and cheaper.
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March 27, 2011 11:23:04 AM

Checking price.com.hk I can't find the exact same parts (ssd, mobo, gfx brand, etc), I'll go through the list one last time tomorrow to finalize it all with this web site and the shop.
Until then any advice from you guys on what to pick on price.com.hk would be more than welcome :D  Cheers !
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March 27, 2011 8:28:52 PM

@vibhas Just because you don't know it doesn't mean it isn't a well renown brand. The cooler Master Silent Pro 850w is a great psu. Reviewers even say that it gives solid wattage and silent performance for a great value. It certainly isn't the best, but it is cheaper than the rest.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Si...
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

@Why_Me, that's what I was going to say. But I decided to just close my mouth.
I did revise it though.

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March 28, 2011 3:54:27 AM

Here is the updated list based on what I could find on www.price.com.hk
Please have a look and see if everything make sense ^__^ thanks

Motherboard
I can't find the ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution: LGA 1155, Intel P67 Express
Is this one the same ? ASUS P8P67 PRO
http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=124449
HK $ 1,580

Processor
Intel Core i7-2600K: 3.4 GHz-3.8 GHz, 8 MB Cache
http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=124084
HK $ 2,590

Memory
I cant find the exact same model G.Skill F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM: DDR3-1600 C8, 2 x 4 GB (8 GB)
Is that one the same ? G. Skill F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=124722
HK $ 710

Graphics
Nvidia GTX 580
Here the problem is more about which brand to pick ? http://www.price.com.hk/search.php?g=&q=GTX+580
I pick the Asus for now - ASUS ENGTX580/2DI/1536MD5 http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=123502
HK $ 4,180

System Drive
I can't find the ADATA 6.0 SSD
for now I picked the OCZ OCZSSD3-2VT120G
http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=126425
HK $ 2,599

G. Skill FM-25S2S-60GBP2
http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=122270
HK $ 1,190

Storage Drive
Samsung F3 HD103SJ 1 TB, 7200 RPM HDD
Is that a similar model ? Samsung HD103UJ http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=115082
HK $ 490

Optical
Lite-On iHBS212 BD-RE: 12x BD-R, 16x DVD±R, 48x CD-R
http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=120879
HK $ 910

Case
Can't find the Antec Three Hundred Illusion
What bout the Antec Dark Fleet DF-30 - http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=118629 - HK $ 720
or the CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced - http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=123130 - HK $ 675
are those match with the rest of the hardware ?

Power
Do I really need a 850W ? I'll stick with 1x gpu and will probably need to plug an additional HDD from time to time, but that's it.
Let's pick the Antec TruePower New TP-650 for now - http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=113366
HK $ 720

Antec TruePower New TP-750 - HK $ 850 - http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=113365

CPU Cooler
Cooler Master v8
http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=120352
HK $ 390

Total = HK$ 14889 (about USD1910)
Total = HK$ 15019 (about USD1926)
Total = HK$ 13610 (about USD1745)

What do you guys think ?
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March 28, 2011 6:44:29 AM

Weird, if I had that computer I wouldn't consider it a "total fail".

The V8 is what the shop recommended to the OP also.

Thanks though. I'll keep posting and apparently misleading people.
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March 29, 2011 1:20:23 AM

Can anyone tell me if I picked the right parts and also help me choose parts from www.price.com.hk ?
Is everything compatible, etc ... ? :sweat: 
I'll be going to the shop this afternoon to place the order :bounce:  so I'd like to be 100% clear about everything first.
Thanks for your help guys, you've been great !
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a b 4 Gaming
March 29, 2011 2:06:58 AM

I'd recommend about a 750w but the parts look good. The conversion over to US dollars show pretty similar pricing.
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March 29, 2011 2:32:23 AM

The more expensive one, but really either is good. The TP just has better efficiency.
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March 29, 2011 2:37:47 AM

Alright thanks a lot Shinobi ^__^
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March 29, 2011 2:41:18 AM

Yeah no problem, anymore questions?
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March 29, 2011 2:45:56 AM

yeah one very last thing about the SSD size, I'm thinking the 120G may not be needed since I'll have the 1Tb HDD, what would you recommend ? 64G or even 32G might be enough ?
fyi I've picked this SSD because it's SataIII (faster?) :-)
What smaller SSD would you recommend from price.com.hk ?
Cheers
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March 29, 2011 3:00:33 AM

64gb is good enough (IE 60gb when formatted etc.)

I suggest going with SATA II for now, SATA III is a bit expensive and the speeds aren't yet there. If you want a SATA III SSD wait until SF-2200 controller SSDs come out, those will boast 550mb reads and writes. Pretty good vs the current ones (285/275)

I'd pull the trigger on this one.
http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=122270

It's more expensive than the OCZ's but for good reason. That one i just recommended has the 34nm SF-1200 chip in it. The OCZ's on the site your shopping from are the Vertex 2 E versions. Those are made cheaper, which is why they are cheaper. They use a 25nm SF-1200 chip which performs worse than the older 34nm. Hence the "E".

Here is an article showing the difference: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ocz-vertex-2-25nm-s...
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March 29, 2011 3:14:25 AM

Great ! :D  64/60Gb sounds really big enough !
I'll take your word for choosing the G.skill version and wait a bit to upgrade to SataIII.
Thanks again Shinobi you've been very helpful ^__^
Have a good day !
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March 29, 2011 3:14:46 AM

Best answer selected by kalistarius.
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a b 4 Gaming
March 29, 2011 3:16:30 AM

No problem and good luck on the build!
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a b 4 Gaming
March 29, 2011 3:23:12 AM

joshyboy82 said:
Weird, if I had that computer I wouldn't consider it a "total fail".

The V8 is what the shop recommended to the OP also.

Thanks though. I'll keep posting and apparently misleading people.

Who cares what the "shop recommended" the V8 is junk. Anyone with internet and google search can find that out. Just don't be trying to recommend single card boards, 850w psu's and junk coolers like that V8 on here. The last thing a guy needs is to order something like what you recommended only to find out he can run one vid card instead of two. Nobody likes to get those kinds of "surprises".

If you don't know it, then don't do it. :) 
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March 29, 2011 3:27:54 AM

^ Stop dissing on my V8, PSH I have a V8.
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March 29, 2011 3:32:00 AM

aznshinobi said:
^ Stop dissing on my V8, PSH I have a V8.

:) 
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March 29, 2011 3:36:33 AM

Alright lets end the forum fight here. The V8 is a decent cooler, just not with current competition. I got mine for 25$ after MIR which is why I bought it.
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March 29, 2011 10:07:39 AM

I'm just back from the shop .... they are out of stock for the RAM, CPU and SSD ......... T__T
They also told me that I should be using 3x stick of RAM and not 2x, does that make sense ? :-P

I'll be going to Mong kok tonight to check other shops .... to be continued .....
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March 29, 2011 11:10:59 AM

Outclassed. Maybe one day I can tell someone they're stupid and the other person will believe them. Nope, nevermind, I'm not an ass.
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March 29, 2011 11:26:09 AM

चाहिए । व्रण
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March 29, 2011 2:13:01 PM

they are wrong, P67 is dual channel not triple, X58 is triple. different sockets.
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March 29, 2011 2:23:07 PM

I got an updated quote from another company :heink: 

They proposed me the INNO 3D GTX580 2GB DDR-5, which seems to be fine :sweat: 

For the RAM they proposed :
- A-DATA DDR-III 1600Mhz Gaming Ver.2 8GB Kit $880
- Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 8GB Kit $1140

SSD
- Intel G3-320 SSD 80GB SATA $1430
- Intel 320-G3 40GB $830
- OCZ Vertex 2 60GB $1069

HDD
WD 1TB SATA-III HDD $408 - is that any good compared to the Samsung ?

What do you think Shinobi ? :D  Which one would you pick ?
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March 29, 2011 11:06:41 PM

Get the Adata ram, I haven't seen reviews on it, but it looks pretty solid. Plus it's cheaper.

SSD wise, the Vertex 2 would be the best option of those 3, assuming that they are giving you the non-E version.

Is it the WD Black SATA III? If it is, that's a pretty good deal. But if not idk.
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March 30, 2011 1:25:26 AM

A-data it is then ! :) 

For the SSD they wrote me "intel 320G3 ver. SSD using the new chips is the faster one", so do you recommend OCZ and not Intel because of the reliability Vs performance ? just curious ^__^
So the good Vertex 2 I should get is this one :
http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-vertex-2-sata-ii-2-5-s...
and the one to avoid is this ?
http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-vertex-2-ex-series-sat...
is that correct ?

Correct, the WD 1TB SATA-III HDD seems to be SATA III.

I can't wait to finally order all this >__<
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March 30, 2011 1:37:42 AM

EX is different from just the E. EX is enterprise which you can get if you'd like. E is the downgraded 25nm SF chip.

The reason I say OCZ over intel is because the 320 G3 SSD has almost no performance benefit over the old SF-12xx (Vertex 2). In fact losing to the old SF-12xx in some cases. Plus it is more expensive.
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March 30, 2011 2:06:30 AM

Great, I'll check that out with the shop and hopefully order everything.
Thanks for your patience Shinobi ^__^
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March 30, 2011 2:20:01 AM

No problem.
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March 30, 2011 6:59:45 AM

Everything is ok except the SSD which was the Vertex 2 E version :-(
They gave me those options :

- OCZSSD2-2VTX50G 50GB 285MB/s read 275MB/s write 50,000 IOPS SandForce1222 + 25nm Flash MLC $
- OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G 60GB 285MB/s read 275MB/s write 50,000 IOPS SandForce1200 + MAX IOPS Firmware MLC
- Intel G3-320 SSD 80GB SATA $1430
- Intel 320-G3 40GB $830
- OCZ Vertex 2 E 60GB $1069

need to pick one :heink: 
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March 30, 2011 9:12:16 AM

It seems I can forget the "OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G" since it's part of the "E" series ...
but what about the other ? there is no "E" but it's still using a 25nm and not a 34nm as you mentioned earlier .... this is so confusing ...
Should I just be looking for any SSD brand which uses a 34nm, is that the idea to get a good one ? :-P
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March 30, 2011 8:36:05 PM

Practically all brands use the 34nm SF-12xx chip. OCZ is basically the only company that makes use of the 25nm chip. Can you find any other companies?
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