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GPU dilemma , gtx460/hd6850/Factory Oc-ed versions

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January 18, 2011 4:32:28 PM

Hey all,

I'm running a i5 2500k , 4gb g.skill ram system with a 620W seasonic psu and i'm looking for the best graphic card for its price. In comparison, the hd 6850 is cheaper than the 460, and apparently out performs it. However, I have seen many people saying that the OC-ed 460 blows the 6850 out of the water. I'm not very acquainted to over clocking and am afraid of damaging the card, so I intend to get a factory OC-ed Graphic card instead.

I was looking at the EVGA gtx 460 SC 1gb for its considerably stronger performance on newer games , but apparently its noisy as heck, and I don't want noisy :p 

So what card would you recommend for the price of a stock 460/ hd 6850? The better price to performance ratio, the more ideal :) 

As a guideline I would like to play games like metro 2033 on very high with a reasonable framerate (30~)fps on a 1680x1050 22inch hd monitor
January 18, 2011 7:00:20 PM

Hey,

Well if you don't want noise, you definetly don't need a "Blower" type cooler.

Stock HD6850 should be better, but as you stated the GTX 460 OC's better. I don't think the difrence between an OC GTX 460 and an OC HD6850 is that huge.

BTW Metro 2033 at your resolution will run better on a HD6850 OC (Even if it the diffrence is be 3-4 FPS)

Don't be afraid to OC it is quite simple especialy with tools like MSI Afterburner (Will work with EVGA and other brands, so don't worry)

The Sapphire's should come with their own TRIXX OC Utility.

I prefer the HD6850. If you don't OC it you should get 30-35 FPS at MAX with OC probably 35-40 (maybe more). The HD6850 will use less power and only one PCI-E Connector.

Also where do you live.

You should read this, it's great, has a lot of benches and answers almost all of your questions:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
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January 18, 2011 9:07:58 PM

VGKitov said:
Wasn't the fastest GTX the GTX 460 EVGA FTW or something like that ?

You know, it's funny, they didn't test that one, but they did test the EVGA GTX460 Superclock. In any event, the Gigabyte was the quietest card, quieter than even the 768MB models. It was also shown to reach the highest overclock of the 16 tested, matching the MSI Hawk at 950mhz.



http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=27185
"Gigabyte's Super Overclock is without a doubt the best 1GB GeForce GTX 460 we've tested."

"A word on noise
The class-leading temperatures are excellent, and they're all the more impressive when you factor in the noise - or lack thereof - that's generated by the WindForce 2's dual fans. The Gigabyte GTX 460 SOC is practically silent when idle and remains barely audible under full load. It's the most impressive combination of performance, low-noise and low temperatures we've seen on a GeForce GTX 460 thus far."
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January 19, 2011 12:16:35 AM

6850 is better all round performance and can OC to 6870 performance if needed. Also 2 in crossfire kiks ass so i would go with it, especially if its cheaper. That way you can get your card and buy some beer to enjoy while you play metro 2033.
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January 19, 2011 3:28:30 AM

Metro 2033 is a PhysX game, so you would need to go with the GTX460 in order to enable those effects.
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January 19, 2011 6:43:07 AM

you can enable the effects without a nvidia card, it just runs slower using the cpu. also there are varying levels to which you can enable the effects and most people cant tell the difference in this game weather it is on standard physx or advanced physx. heres a physx on/off comparison video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt8DEEEMTHw
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January 19, 2011 11:43:04 AM

Well I don't know about PhysX, it looks kind of funny (unrealistic) to me (Crysis) IMO. I don't know about other games.
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January 19, 2011 5:02:36 PM

VGKitov said:
Well I don't know about PhysX, it looks kind of funny (unrealistic) to me (Crysis) IMO. I don't know about other games.

Crysis is not a PhysX game.

Funny how the PhysX issue is pretty generally divided between those who have it and like it, and those who don't have it and don't like it. But I do agree with the crow, that Metro 2033 is not a good example of PhysX implementation. I actually play Unreal Tournament 3 with hardware PhysX and I would never play it without.
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January 19, 2011 5:23:38 PM

17seconds said:
Crysis is not a PhysX game.

Funny how the PhysX issue is pretty generally divided between those who have it and like it, and those who don't have it and don't like it. But I do agree with the crow, that Metro 2033 is not a good example of PhysX implementation. I actually play Unreal Tournament 3 with hardware PhysX and I would never play it without.


It isn't , well it looked pretty diffrent to me on an AMD and nVidia card (maybe it's just me ) :) 

Never mind I think it's a personal preference and the OP should decide for himself.

Some see it, some don't ;) 

Well I actualy see it but I'm not impressed. To be honest I would like to have it, just to try it out for longer. But for my future build I will get one HD6850 (hopefully), because an SLI Mobo (I was thinking of a GTX 460 ) is a lot more expensive tha a CrossFire one.
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January 20, 2011 3:05:07 AM

Get the 6850. I got the Asus 6850 and was very satisfied. I too was debating between the nvidia products, and the 5850, but end result was me getting the 6850 above all. and im very happy with my decision:) 

played BF bad company 2 at max settings including max aliasing at 1680 x 1050 and absolutely no lag at all even under heavy graphical display (crashing helicopters exploding tanks exploding etc.)
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January 20, 2011 6:37:48 AM

chickenhoagie said:
Get the 6850. I got the Asus 6850 and was very satisfied. I too was debating between the nvidia products, and the 5850, but end result was me getting the 6850 above all. and im very happy with my decision:) 

played BF bad company 2 at max settings including max aliasing at 1680 x 1050 and absolutely no lag at all even under heavy graphical display (crashing helicopters exploding tanks exploding etc.)


OK thanks!

Really apreciate the advice, especialy since you are using the same resolution as me :D 
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January 21, 2011 6:58:59 PM

Hey everyone, thanks for the replies, sorry for replying late, didn't get the chance to use the computer.


Anyway, I'm going to head out and buy a graphic card from a retail store tomorrow, shipping costs alot more where i live.

Anyway, These are the cards in my consideration ,

Asus gtx 460 dcu 1gb direct top - USD $ 249

Gigabyte gtx 460 overclocked 1gb $258

MSI hawk 1gb gtx 460 $250

Palit gtx 460 1gb sonic platinum $241

Sapphire Hd 6850 1gb $201

Evga Gtx 460 Super OC 1gb $242

As you can see alot of the graphic cards here have higher prices , but oh well, i've got no choice. So in the case, which would be best for me?



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January 21, 2011 7:30:10 PM

So is that Gigabyte the "overclock" version, or the "Superoverclock" version?
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January 21, 2011 7:33:00 PM

super OC
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January 21, 2011 7:34:39 PM

That's the one I would get (obviously). It's a little more expensive, but it has the best cooler out of the bunch, according to what I have read. Fast and quiet.
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January 22, 2011 2:29:48 AM

And the hd 6850?
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January 22, 2011 3:02:52 AM

HD6850 is your best option! It's $40 cheaper than the cheapest GTX460 at your location.
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January 22, 2011 9:28:08 AM

thanks guys but in the end i bought the 6950 LOL!
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January 22, 2011 12:41:20 PM

jrunes said:
thanks guys but in the end i bought the 6950 LOL!


:lol:  Neverming, have fun.
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