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March 23, 2011 8:13:48 AM

Hey guys,

My aunt would like me to see what I can get her for $1,500-3,000 AUD

It will be for standard office work and needs the ability to connect to a server, run 2 monitors and for the occasional Photoshop venture. She wants it to be fast if she is to pay top dollar!

Preferences:

-ITX (smallest cases, tried showing her micro ATX Silverstone/FD Mini cases but even those she says are too big) :S
-Enough slots for dual monitor
-Microsoft Office
-Win7 64bit

Thanks

Also it would help me if someone could link me good Australian websites for these components as I am from the UK and have no clue where to get these parts.

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March 23, 2011 10:02:51 AM

Ok so far ive got this list together, its off a UK site so prices wont be the same obviously.

-Silverstone Sugo SG06BB w/ 450W SFX PSU, 80 Plus bronze
-Gigabyte GA-H55N-USB3
-i7 870
-4GB (2X2GB) Corsair XMS3, DDR3 PC3-10666 (1333)
-1GB EVGA GTX 550 Ti
-500GB Samsung F3
-23.6" Asus VH242H (same model as current monitor)
-Silverstone SST-SOD02 Slot-In Slim Optical DVD Drive
-Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit
-Microsoft Office Home and Business 2010

Total (ex. VAT): £948.67


*UPDATED* (best answer is for this build)

CASE: Silverstone SG06 Black Cube Mini-ITX Case - $125.00

MOBO: Gigabyte GA-H67N-USB3 Mini-ITX Motherboard B3 - $149.00

CPU: Intel Core i7 2600 - $319.00

RAM: Corsair CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 - $119.00

SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD - $149.00

HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ - $69.00

ODD: SONY AD-7710 SATA Slim Black Internal DVDRW - $59.00 (Silverstone slim drive is currently unavailable till 19.4.11)

MONITOR: ASUS VH242H 23.5in Widescreen LCD Monitor - $199.00

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64bit OEM - $149.00

Software: Microsoft Office Home and Business 2010 Retail - $279.00


Sub-Total: $1616.00

Standard Shipping (averages 2-5 days): $80

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Thanks again WR2 for your help, sound advice!

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March 23, 2011 10:26:53 AM

Thomas Soderstrom published a good article on ITX cases last week: DTX Lives! Four Double-Slot Cases For ITX Gaming Machines. Here is what I would suggest for a case based upon that article: SILVERSTONE SG06-B with he 300 watt psu, since she is not gaming. At about $120 AUS, that leaves plenty in the budget for other parts.

As for other components, consider these:

CPU: Sandybridge i3-2120

Video: Radeon HD 5670


Not sure about the sites in Australia - maybe some of the locals down under can help there?

One other question: Is your aunt savy enough to assemble these components? The article gives some tips as to what to watch out for, but building in a small box like that is not a beginner project.

March 23, 2011 10:29:36 AM



Cheers for the swift reply, I was looking at a i7 2600 but off scan couldn't find that H67 ITX board. Thanks.

Will the onboard graphics be enough? I threw in the GTX 550ti because I didn't know if the onboard graphics was good enough.

Rest of the build compatible?
March 23, 2011 10:31:50 AM

Im checking the graphics stuff now but I'm certain it will.
I know you want to match the monitor but for the Photoshop work - it might be worthwhile looking at IPS monitors.
March 23, 2011 10:38:13 AM

eloric said:
Thomas Soderstrom published a good article on ITX cases last week: DTX Lives! Four Double-Slot Cases For ITX Gaming Machines. Here is what I would suggest for a case based upon that article: SILVERSTONE SG06-B with he 300 watt psu, since she is not gaming. At about $120 AUS, that leaves plenty in the budget for other parts.

As for other components, consider these:

CPU: Sandybridge i3-2120

Video: Radeon HD 5670


Not sure about the sites in Australia - maybe some of the locals down under can help there?

One other question: Is your aunt savy enough to assemble these components? The article gives some tips as to what to watch out for, but building in a small box like that is not a beginner project.


I'm currently out on my Gap year down under, staying at her house. She's looking to replace her laptop which is slow.

She is contemplating buying a prebuilt from a shop but I'm trying to convince her that buying the components separately is much cheaper and that I can fit it out with better components in that price range.

She got a quote from some business connection or $3,000 dollars (HP i7 870, 500gb HDD, 4GB ram NV600 + software) but I said I could make that at a fraction of the price.

So hard trying to figure out her preferences.. All she said was small case (smaller than m-ATX), very vague on HDD space... If it's going to be connected to the server I can replace the F3 for an SSD... GRRR lol
March 23, 2011 10:41:02 AM

The Photoshop stuff isn't her main focus, she just likes to simply edit photos and stuff... Not full on GFX design.
March 23, 2011 10:54:07 AM

Milkym0o said:
Is that compatible with socket 1155? Only says 775
Nitrogon NT06-E on the SilverStone website
* *LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366 supported with serial number AS09160001 and after

I was hoping they'd have updated support to the newer sockets. Just trying to figure out now if it's compatible with the SG-05.
March 23, 2011 10:57:28 AM

WR2 said:
How would she feel about an HTPC style case? More of the old Desktop style? Or the Home Theatre component style?


Here is something sure to open a few eyes among her co-workers:
Silverstone SG05 Black Cube Mini ITX Case $115

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/953/ss127.jpg

Sugo SG05
SilverStone Sugo SG05 Case Review @ HardwareSecrets


Looks good. Bit confused with the HDD and optical bays. Am I right in saying it's 1x slim Opt drive, 1x 3.5" HDD and 1x 2.5" HDD/SSD?

Was looking at that or the SG06 version
March 23, 2011 11:03:13 AM

Correct about the bays. And of course you can get an adapter to put the 500GB 2.5" HDD into the 3.5 bay.
The SG-06 is certainly an option as well.

But now Im thinking replace the 500GB 2.5" HDD with a standard 3.5" 1GB HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ $69
I had chosen the 2.5" laptop style 500GB HDD for it's slightly quieter operation. But without a firm grip on her actual HDD needs better to get the 1TB HDD I think.
March 23, 2011 11:05:55 AM

I could probably throw in an SSD and HDD, speed boot times and her office apps up :) 

If the CPU cooler is compatible I'll definitely give it a shot.

Is a 550ti necessary? If the onboard graphics is enough... If it's not I doubt the 300w PSU will cope, it's why I was looking at the SG06 which comes with a 450w 80+ bronze PSU
March 23, 2011 11:07:33 AM

A separate review of the FSP300-60GHS Power Supply included in the SG-05.
It's a very good unit. That's always comforting to know for sure.
March 23, 2011 11:10:22 AM

Ye I was thinking the 1tb F3 would be better considering the minor price increase.

She didn't explain very well, but she said through the business she pays something like 30% tax instead of 50% tax or something, bit unclear but I can get some nice components within budget
March 23, 2011 11:11:52 AM

If a graphics card would have been needed I would have suggested one of the GT 430 models. Or maybe one of the fanless HD 5570s.

But the intergrated HD 3000 graphics is quite good. And the motherboard supports two monitors without a graphics card.
March 23, 2011 11:13:21 AM

I'll quit slacking from sitting outside and writing this on my iPod whilst having a cigarette, will hope on a Pc and compile a pccasegear basket for price check xD
March 23, 2011 11:14:09 AM

ASUS VH242H 23.5in Widescreen LCD Monitor $200

No reason not to set up an account on PC Case Gear and do a 'test run' on the shopping cart to see what the total would be.
If there is a small business GST tax break so much the better.
March 23, 2011 11:15:10 AM

Exactly my thoughts. Get an idea where the total cost 'out-the-door' stands.
March 23, 2011 11:17:07 AM

Ye I looked at the GTX 430, is the fanless 5570 any good? If I can prevent heat releasing into the case that would be preferable considering the lack of cooling xD
March 23, 2011 11:19:47 AM

This isn't the best example of the HD 3000/2000 graphics but it uses some gaming benchmarks to show it's relative performance to some very nice discrete graphics cards in the low power HTPC class.

Intel HD Graphics 2000/3000 Performance
March 23, 2011 11:21:16 AM

I think the onboard graphics helps out a lot in that area as well. Skipping the discrete graphics card looks like a winning move all around.
March 23, 2011 11:35:20 AM

also could you recommend a webcam /w mic combo? it was on the quote she was given so i presume she wants one xD
March 23, 2011 11:36:25 AM

Found this on the Silverstone site:Recommendations - SG05
Based on the recommendations the SST-NT06-E CPU cooler is only good in a fanless mode for up to 65W TDP CPUs. And the i7 2600K is a 95W TDP CPU.
So it's either use the stock Intel CPU cooler or the Silverstone SST-NT05 cooler. I think the stock Intel CPU cooler.
March 23, 2011 11:53:58 AM

Ok so currently here is a draft list:


CASE: Silverstone SG06 Black Cube Mini-ITX Case - $125.00

MOBO: Gigabyte GA-H67N-USB3 Mini-ITX Motherboard B3 - $149.00

CPU: Intel Core i7 2600 - $319.00

RAM: Corsair CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 - $119.00

SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD - $149.00

HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ - $69.00

ODD: SONY AD-7710 SATA Slim Black Internal DVDRW - $59.00 (Silverstone slim drive is currently unavailable till 19.4.11)

MONITOR: ASUS VH242H 23.5in Widescreen LCD Monitor - $199.00

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64bit OEM - $149.00

Software: Microsoft Office Home and Business 2010 Retail - $279.00


Sub-Total: $1616.00

Standard Shipping (averages 2-5 days): $80

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March 23, 2011 12:05:57 PM
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CPU/MB/RAM All good.
SSD/HDD/ODD All good.
GPU - integrated on CPU/MB
Case/PSU Also good.

It's all there, and all excellent choices IMO.
If you want to slip in the i5 2500 CPU to trim the cost a bit more I think that's a right reasonable option.
March 23, 2011 12:07:01 PM

How soon did you plan on ordering? It's probably a good idea to get a couple more eyes on the choices and look things over as well.
March 23, 2011 12:11:41 PM

I think the webcam can be bought later or from a local store... its not a vital component and there is a keyboard + mouse connected to the kids laptop (being replaced by her laptop) so that can be used on the desktop instead.

I think its a pretty nice list and when my aunt is awake tomorrow i'll go over a few things like exactly what software she needs etc to make sure its a solid build
March 23, 2011 12:14:29 PM

She hasnt set a deadline yet, but i think maybe 1-4 weeks or so. Will be busy next 2 weeks.

She's pretty loaded, so its more of a time issue when im available, i'm currently working 7 days a week >.<
March 23, 2011 12:14:42 PM

OK, I think it's a solid list too.

It might be a good idea to close out this topic and start a new one with everything cleaned up nice and tidy.

Make it easier for those 2nd & 3rd sets of eyes to look thinks over.
March 23, 2011 12:17:20 PM

There might be some new SSDs dropping into the market shortly. That Vertex 2 is fast but the newer Vertex 3 SSDs look pretty spectacular.
March 23, 2011 12:22:16 PM

I'll need to run things by her first and actually get a check list of preferences rather than just some vague things.

She doesnt help when i ask her with specifics she doesnt really give a definite answer.

This family has 3 laptops that I offered to speed up considering they were so slow.

Found about 15-20 Trojans and Rogue viruses on each laptop! Last defrag was from 2009 lol :S

I just pray that if i build this she'll actually look after it. I can imagine her (when im gone) getting annoyed cos its slowed up or something, rather than performing standard steps to speed it up, she'll just waste more money and buy a new prebuilt!!!!

/rant

Thanks for your help WR2, very beneficial and sound advice <3

I may even post some pics if she goes ahead and lets me build this :) 
March 23, 2011 12:28:02 PM

WR2 said:
There might be some new SSDs dropping into the market shortly. That Vertex 2 is fast but the newer Vertex 3 SSDs look pretty spectacular.


Ye i know. Ill check em out... pccasegear doesnt have any on their site yet :( 

Ill be getting one for my new build when i return to the UK <3

FT02B-W
i7 2600k
TR Silver Arrow
P8P67 deluxe
16GB G-Skill RipJaws X C8 1600mhz
SLI GTX 580
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB
3x 1TB Spinpoint F3 (2 in RAID 0, other for general storage)
Samsung SH-B123L Blu Ray
AX2310 Optx 23" 120hz 1920x1080
Corsair AX1200

I hope to demolish BF3 when it comes out :) 
March 23, 2011 12:28:22 PM

Great idea.

You'll probably get a chance to check up on things after you leave. Remote Assistance is great that way.

We always appreciate pictures.
March 23, 2011 12:29:31 PM

Nice build list! Going for a 3D option?
March 23, 2011 12:33:22 PM

Ill probably check it out for sure. 120fps for ultra smoothness would be nice...

Working 7 days a week means ill have a tonne of money when i return to the UK so if im gonna buy a beast rig now seems like a good time with Crysis 2, Batman Arkhum City, BF3 all coming out this year :) 

It'll be a present for all this bloody work im torturing myself through! (and for a bit of e-peen, although i get it VAT free so costs little over £2200!)
March 23, 2011 12:48:07 PM

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